3 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said:

I'm anxiously awaiting the meltdown here the minute he signs elsewhere.  (Insert Michael Jackson Popcorn ?. gif)

 

I think the melt down will be more subdued unless it’s a really reasonable contact and the Sox do nothing to address the gaping RF hole. 

27 minutes ago, ptatc said:

5 year deals are iffy for any player. You know they will declining towards the end.

Of course,  but if you aren't willing to go there, you wind up not signing major free agents.

1 minute ago, Tnetennba said:

I think the melt down will be more subdued unless it’s a really reasonable contact and the Sox do nothing to address the gaping RF hole. 

Now what if it’s the Twins, Tigers, Indians or Cubs?

9 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Shit, they were afraid to guarantee dollars to a guy who was 26.

But had no problems guaranteeing two 31 year olds a combined 130 million for 4 years. 

Pineda pinending with Detroit if they can find a truck scale to weigh him. Just before death I dreamed of him and Sano mud wrestling. 

1 minute ago, Tnetennba said:

I can’t argue with your points, they are sound and logical.  But if this team wants to win in this big spending large market world they have to sign quality free agents at some point.  The internal options available don’t put this team in a better spot to win, and wasting money around the edge on stop gaps won’t either. 

That's where they sign the young in house players to long term deals like Robert, Jimenez, Moncada and Anderson.

Then they can sign FA to short term deals for others.

1 minute ago, Tnetennba said:

I think the melt down will be more subdued unless it’s a really reasonable contact and the Sox do nothing to address the gaping RF hole. 

It's only a gaping hole if you think Andrew Vaughn will be a bust out there.

Andrew Vaughn needs to play everyday and he is going to get first crack at the lone open position right now which is RF.

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Now what if it’s the Twins, Tigers, Indians or Cubs?

I should have made mention of signing with the competition.  Any of those three and it’s Three Mile Island. 

2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

Of course,  but if you aren't willing to go there, you wind up not signing major free agents.

Agreed. I wouldn't unless they are special players or in house ones you know everything about them

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

Now what if it’s the Twins, Tigers, Indians or Cubs?

I already said I'd delete my account if the Guardians sign a big FA before we do, so yeah...

14 minutes ago, pcq said:

No writer has suggested Conforto is going to Chicago. He is beyond the Sox budget yet has inspired a petabyte of postage here. Who started all of this, Putin?

I read on LaRussia Today that we're interested in Conforto, so you might be onto something.

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6 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

I should have made mention of signing with the competition.  Any of those three and it’s Three Mile Island. 

At least it isn't Chernobyl or Fukushima.

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2 minutes ago, ptatc said:

That's where they sign the young in house players to long term deals like Robert, Jimenez, Moncada and Anderson.

Then they can sign FA to short term deals for others.

Is a 4 year deal really that long for a first time FA?  I don’t think so.  6+ I start to agree more with your sentiments.  Locking up your own guys early are sound investments no doubt.  It’s too bad they don’t have a legit body they could do that with in RF instead of wasting assets & dollars on stop gaps, retreads, or playing guys woefully out of position. 

1 minute ago, chw42 said:

At least it isn't Chernobyl of Fukushima.

I was going for a more obscure nuclear meltdown. 

Just now, Tnetennba said:

Is a 4 year deal really that long for a first time FA?  I don’t think so.  6+ I start to agree more with your sentiments.  Locking up your own guys early are sound investments no doubt.  It’s too bad they don’t have a legit body they could do that with in RF instead of wasting assets & dollars on stop gaps, retreads, or playing guys woefully out of position. 

No the 4 year isn't crazy. It would be a consideration, if that is truly the length. However, the Sox can't afford to wait around forever when they had other needs as well.

1 hour ago, Pal said:

4 years closer to 90 mill is what he's looking for.

If this is true then I was right. He's still looking for the big money and not looking for a prove it short contract. He already lost once betting on himself. He wouldn't do it again. Take the money and run . He probably still wants an opt out just in case . If he gets 4/80 without an opt out he'll take it but he'd like it better with one.

 

1 minute ago, ptatc said:

No the 4 year isn't crazy. It would be a consideration, if that is truly the length. However, the Sox can't afford to wait around forever when they had other needs as well.

Which swings us back around to the idiocy of picking up Kimbrel’s option only to be to seemingly stuck with him and unable/unwilling to address other big needs. 

8 minutes ago, pcq said:

Pineda pinending with Detroit if they can find a truck scale to weigh him. Just before death I dreamed of him and Sano mud wrestling. 

Yermin needs to get involved now that his big league income is cut off.

Do the Cubs even have a place for Conforto to play?  Who are their other two starting outfielders right now?

3 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

I was going for a more obscure nuclear meltdown. 

Bhopal, India...

I think the White Sox strategy is they think they are good enough now to be in a great position I July, so they can add then and pay the addition for 1/3 of the season.

1 minute ago, Tnetennba said:

Which swings us back around to the idiocy of picking up Kimbrel’s option only to be to seemingly stuck with him and unable/unwilling to address other big needs. 

Again, I don't think it's much of an issue because that's only this year. Even if they keep him, it's only this year. I think the issue is more how many years they are committed to it.

1 minute ago, Dick Allen said:

I think the White Sox strategy is they think they are good enough now to be in a great position I July, so they can add then and pay the addition for 1/3 of the season.

Could be.

6 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

I think the White Sox strategy is they think they are good enough now to be in a great position I July, so they can add then and pay the addition for 1/3 of the season.

Worked great last year

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Worked great last year

Imagine trusting Rick Hahn/Sox FO to make competent TDL moves...