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4/20 game thread Sox at CLE

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4 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

I think it's quite possible that the offense(and individual players) aren't as good as we thought. Robert looks more like Mike Cameron than Mike Trout. 

The projection systems definitely saw Robert as more like Mike Cameron coming into this season. 

Truth is that Cameron at his peak was a 4-5 WAR player who was massively underrated because of the era he played in. I still think Robert has a much higher ceiling, but a floor of Mike Cameron isn't the end of the world. 

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9 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

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7 minutes ago, chw42 said:

The projection systems definitely saw Robert as more like Mike Cameron coming into this season. 

Truth is that Cameron at his peak was a 4-5 WAR player who was massively underrated because of the era he played in. I still think Robert has a much higher ceiling, but a floor of Mike Cameron isn't the end of the world. 

The issue is that all of the high floor/high ceiling hitters that the Sox acquired seem to be coming nowhere close to their ceilings and are basically being their safe floor or slightly above (looking at Moncada/Robert/Eloy) 

There's still time for Vaughn but it's disheartening that all of those guys are only scraping barely above the floor. 

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Just now, Jack Parkman said:

The issue is that all of the high floor/high ceiling hitters that the Sox acquired seem to be coming nowhere close to their ceilings and are basically being their safe floor or slightly above (looking at Moncada/Robert/Eloy) 

Robert was well above his floor last year 

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Robert was well above his floor last year 

It was also a small sample size. Robert played what, 70 games? 

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8 minutes ago, wegner said:

I love what Banks did today but not sure how much of a "Momentum Changer" it is when he came in to a 10-0 game and it is now 10-1.

It helps in that he saves the bullpen by going 4 innings. May not be a game changer for this one but could be fir the next couple.

Yeah, I’m not going to worry about the offense in April. Maybe once hits mid-May.

Just now, Jack Parkman said:

It was also a small sample size. 

Everything is a small sample size unless it a full season.

17 minutes ago, chw42 said:

Robert is in a slump. He's been in one since the last game against Seattle. 

Looks really bad up there right now.  We've seen this before, but was man....was hopeful that corner was turned for good. 

1 minute ago, ptatc said:

Everything is a small sample size unless it a full season.

I think 100-110 games is fair enough. 

1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said:

It was also a small sample size. Robert played what, 70 games? 

We’re like, 10 games into the season. Isn’t that a small sample size to be freaking out and worrying over?

AV has 3 balls hit over 100 MPH today. 

Just now, Bob Sacamano said:

We’re like, 10 games into the season. Isn’t that a small sample size to be freaking out and worrying over?

Yep. But 0-19 is bad no matter how you slice it. 

Just now, Bob Sacamano said:

We’re like, 10 games into the season. Isn’t that a small sample size to be freaking out and worrying over?

Its Parkman.  We could be 9-0 and he'd be hanging off the ledge. 

Just now, chw42 said:

AV has 3 balls hit over 100 MPH today. 

Looks great at the plate 

Severino!? Will he kill someone today?! Its anyone's guess.  

Just now, Jack Parkman said:

Yep. But 0-19 is bad no matter how you slice it. 

Robert already has a 120 game sample prior to this season. He was a 5 WAR player who looked amazing for 3 months and was terrible for a month. I think he'll be a streaky hitter in general. Hopefully his struggles recently are just mechanical or the league adjusting to him. He'll always have a chance to adjust back. 

3 minutes ago, chw42 said:

AV has 3 balls hit over 100 MPH today. 

One of the few positives of today I guess

6 minutes ago, ptatc said:

It helps in that he saves the bullpen by going 4 innings. May not be a game changer for this one but could be fir the next couple.

They have a 14 man pitching staff.  14.

Sox under .200 now on the season vs RHP

Yaz when he sees Severino run in from the bullpen

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Is next game right after?

9 minutes ago, ptatc said:

It helps in that he saves the bullpen by going 4 innings. May not be a game changer for this one but could be fir the next couple.

I guess I see momentum as more of an in game thing, but I certainly see your point especially on game 1 of a DH.

2 minutes ago, oldsox said:

They have a 14 man pitching staff.  14.

It’s actually 15. Damn that’s a lot.

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Sox under .200 now on the season vs RHP

They're going to have issues hitting RHP that don't suck all year. 

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