I hate games like this where it looks like it is over early and you feel like tuning out.

Just now, fathom said:

Yep he’s totally finished. He will end up like Keuchel where the Sox release him in late May next year.

Have we ever seen a player fall off this quickly to this extent?  I mean, the dude is barely walking even which is his calling card.  Seems like more than just natural regression.

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Seems fairly obvious 

Depends on Plesac/Civale, health of rotation and using that incredible middle infield depth in their system.

Just now, Chicago White Sox said:

Have we ever seen a player fall off this quickly to this extent?  I mean, the dude is barely walking even which is his calling card.  Seems like more than just natural regression.

Well....one could guess

0-4 from the lefties against a RHP.  I also can’t remember the last time a lefty homered.

3 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Willie Mays Hayes/Aikens

 

I get Sheets just caught that, but it’s insane balls that they allow him to play RF.

2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Have we ever seen a player fall off this quickly to this extent?  I mean, the dude is barely walking even which is his calling card.  Seems like more than just natural regression.

Yoan Moncada is also on this team. Worth 4 WAR and and had a wRC+ over 120 over 3 seasons and now is the worst hitter in baseball. 

I think Yoan might get his shit together eventually, but the longer it goes the more I wonder. It's weird how he's just lost it at 27 years old. 

Edited June 9, 20223 yr by Jack Parkman

Just now, fathom said:

Well....one could guess

Dunn/LaRoche/Keppinger to name a few.

Alonso...although already fading.

Encarnacion see above.

1 minute ago, fathom said:

3B, but he can’t play there because the worst hitter in baseball needs to play there

But don't we have a hole at 2B?  And doesn't that "worst hitter in baseball" also play 2B?  If they need to get the worst hitter in baseball in the lineup for some reason, why not use him to plug the hole at 2B?

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Have we ever seen a player fall off this quickly to this extent?  I mean, the dude is barely walking even which is his calling card.  Seems like more than just natural regression.

Andrew McCutcheon is always my reference point for a “Wtf” falloff.

Seriously how long until sheets gets sent down.  He adds absolutely nothing to this team. 

1 minute ago, fathom said:

0-4 from the lefties against a RHP.  I also can’t remember the last time a lefty homered.

 

2 minutes ago, tray said:

 I hate games like this where it looks like it is over early and you feel like tuning out.

Three run deficits frighten you?  Sorry to hear.   ?

Vaughn would not have gotten to that ball.

4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Have we ever seen a player fall off this quickly to this extent?  I mean, the dude is barely walking even which is his calling card.  Seems like more than just natural regression.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/larocad01.shtml

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/e/encared01.shtml

...and to a lesser extent (one above-average OPS year hit above-average OPS-wise) https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/dunnad01.shtml

Edited June 9, 20223 yr by JoeC

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Well....one could guess

What’s your theory?  Not trying to challenge either, just flabbergasted how the dude went from arguably our best hitter last year to nearly worst hitter in baseball.

Just now, South Side Fireworks Man said:

But don't we have a hole at 2B?  And doesn't that "worst hitter in baseball" also play 2B?  If they need to get the worst hitter in baseball in the lineup for some reason, why not use him to plug the hole at 2B?

Does defense matter to you or not? 

1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said:

Yoan Moncada is also on this team. Worth 4 WAR and and had a wRC+ over 120 over 3 seasons and now is the worst hitter in baseball. 

I think Yoan might get his shit together eventually, but the longer it goes the more I wonder. It's weird how he's just lost it at 27 years old. 

It's possible the dude got his contract and just doesn't give a shit anymore

lets start with getting a runner in scoring position this inning

2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

 

 

It was 100 push ups, not 30.

Just now, ron883 said:

It's possible the dude got his contract and just doesn't give a shit anymore

If that was the case, wouldn't he have sucked last year too? He didn't.

4 minutes ago, fathom said:

3B, but he can’t play there because the worst hitter in baseball needs to play there

At this point, screw it, start Burger at 3B and make Moncada re-earn that spot.  

1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said:

Yoan Moncada is also on this team. Worth 4 WAR and and had a wRC+ over 120 over 3 seasons and now is the worst hitter in baseball. 

I think Yoan might get his shit together eventually, but the longer it goes the more I wonder. It's weird how he's just lost it at 27 years old. 

Yoan is clearly not 100% and would be much better if healthy (how much so obviously TBD).  It’s not clear if Grandal is hurting or impacted by offseason surgery, but perhaps there is something there.  Neither guy walking is very weird though.

2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

What’s your theory?  Not trying to challenge either, just flabbergasted how the dude went from arguably our best hitter last year to nearly worst hitter in baseball.

By qualified at bats, he is the worst by a wide margin at OPS.