February 9, 20233 yr Lonzo Ball is almost certainly out for the season. Is there really much hope for him next year? Seems to me, theres a decent chance he'll never be the same.
February 9, 20233 yr 55 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: That said, if they trade Lavine and not Vuc & DD they are just dumb. The insider on the Score yesterday doesn’t think Vuc will re-sign here
February 9, 20233 yr Author 55 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: That said, if they trade Lavine and not Vuc & DD they are just dumb. I actually don't blame them - make the deal and you can trade DD later, but if you can get maximum lift now for Lavine just do it. I'd also do the rest - but I can appreciate if they want to wait a bit more there. I would probably move at least Vuc if I moved Lavine.
February 9, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, fathom said: The insider on the Score yesterday doesn’t think Vuc will re-sign here If he is gone either way, it's stupid not to get something for him now. The team as is is going no where.
February 9, 20233 yr Dear lord if Saddiq Bey and Jae Crowder can pull 5 second rounders, Caruso should a couple firsts.
February 9, 20233 yr Author 32 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Yeah, I really don't understand the Bulls seemingly hoping for a play in finish. But although 3 of them are nice, they have to be spaced apart, and will probably be middle of the pack at best, and all they get back is crap for the forseeable future. If the Bulls did this, it is a total money dump. Its a soft reset - get the picks; do the same for Vuc. Than you keep Derozan (cause no way can they pull off all 3) and either dangle Derozan in the off-season or have him as your vet as part of a retool and use your picks you acquired to try again. If they traded all 3 - I think they could probably get 5 to 6 FRP (ideally all unprotected) and than a few pick swaps and if you take on salary / other things, probably more than that quite frankly. I could see Derozan getting you 2, Vuc 1, and Lavine 3 (and other than Lavine - I could see Derozan being more than 2 (maybe 2 unprotected one top 4 protected) and Vuc could be 1 unprotected and another top whatever protection. Add in Caruso or someone else and you could get a ton of picks. Whether you ever use those picks to draft or those are just new assets for whatever they do next (while having a completely different cap position).
February 9, 20233 yr 2 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: I actually don't blame them - make the deal and you can trade DD later, but if you can get maximum lift now for Lavine just do it. I'd also do the rest - but I can appreciate if they want to wait a bit more there. I would probably move at least Vuc if I moved Lavine. Sure, if they aren't blown away by offers for DD, no reason to move him just because. It just seems silly to me to move Zach and keep the other two when the team is going nowhere.
February 9, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, Quin said: Dear lord if Saddiq Bey and Jae Crowder can pull 5 second rounders, Caruso should a couple firsts. but, Continuity!!!
February 9, 20233 yr AKME looking more and more like GarPax 2.0 today. Same old Bulls, why did I expect anything different?
February 9, 20233 yr 3 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: AKME looking more and more like GarPax 2.0 today. Same old Bulls, why did I expect anything different? I don’t get their plan at all. Seems like it’s to go as close to .500 as possible and sell a lot of tickets. This team has no present or future.
February 9, 20233 yr 2 hours ago, Chisoxfn said: I still go back to - as much as I don't like this team - with a quality point guard, they are actually pretty decent with some upside (Williams arrow has been improving - slower than I would have liked but 2 months ago I thought he was trending towards mediocre bench player - now he's consistently putting up some better games and White has been very good in his role (but will probably get overpaid in the off-season). With that said - trade Derozan and see if you can get a few unprotected picks and be in a position to retool and see if you can get an unprotected for Vuc. But they won't do that - so if you go with a Westbrook (worse case you drop him a few weeks later) or try to swing for a PG - I can live with that. Coby White is the same player he’s always been. Basically zero improvement from his rookie season and same with Williams. Williams hasn’t improved his ability to create, rebound, etc.
February 9, 20233 yr 7 minutes ago, fathom said: I don’t get their plan at all. Seems like it’s to go as close to .500 as possible and sell a lot of tickets. This team has no present or future. Hope and pray that Lonzo comes back and the team plays like they did in the first half of last season. It's a bad plan.
February 9, 20233 yr The other thing is the Bulls, who print money, are so paranoid about the tax line, they will never be good enough to win regularly.
February 9, 20233 yr Just now, Dick Allen said: The other thing is the Bulls, who print money, are so paranoid about the tax line, they will never be good enough to win regularly. Reminds me of another team
February 9, 20233 yr 1 minute ago, chw42 said: Hope and pray that Lonzo comes back and the team plays like they did in the first half of last season. It's a bad plan. Lonzo Ball has become the most overrated player on the planet. He should just retire, and then people will overrate him for eternity.
February 9, 20233 yr 7 minutes ago, fathom said: I don’t get their plan at all. Seems like it’s to go as close to .500 as possible and sell a lot of tickets. This team has no present or future. Nor do I. Capped out, no one up & coming, no picks, and no real assets to trade w/o blowing it up. Selling out the UC sure seems like priority #1, with playoff revenue as the only real achievable goal.
February 9, 20233 yr Just now, Quin said: "Lonzo is our trade deadline acquisition" - Arturas Hahn Except when he suffers another set back and is shut down for the season.
February 9, 20233 yr 40 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Except when he suffers another set back and is shut down for the season. I fail to see how this is different from Eloy.
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