November 8, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Joshua Strong said: He must’ve really fucking hated playing for the Sox He truly never looked happy out there, but might be his personality. I think the clubhouse is kind of toxic, even with the removal of LaRussa.
November 8, 20223 yr He lives in Phoenix and has a 12yr old at home. Perhaps just wants to be closer to home. Let's see where he signs.
November 8, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Tnetennba said: Really hope this doesn't mean Engel is back. It really is time to move on. Oh I agree. Just looking at the free agents options is discouraging, unless you want Tommy Pham or Kevin Pillar. Edited November 8, 20223 yr by Bob Sacamano
November 8, 20223 yr Spotrac had us at $171.5 million projected payroll before Pollock declined the option. Subtract $8 million from that and we're at 163.5 million. If we stay at around the $195 million payroll mark, that leaves us about $33 million in space for FAs and trades. Edited November 8, 20223 yr by chw42
November 8, 20223 yr He might want to live elsewhere. Family issues. Thinking about retiring. People quit companies and join others for a lot of reasons.
November 8, 20223 yr 6 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Did he get Orlando Cabrera-ed? What was the story there? I don't remember the context.
November 8, 20223 yr 3 minutes ago, Colome's Hat said: He is going to get close to $10 million anyways considering the buyout is $5 million. He was gonna get $13 million had he stayed here. I don't see him getting $8 million from another team, but you never know I guess.
November 8, 20223 yr Just now, T R U said: Whats the likelihood the Sox approached him and said "Listen, if you opt in the plan is to use you as a 4th OFer / Backup" and he just wasn't interested in that? For sure possible, but not even sure that convo needed to be had, think that writing was sort of on the wall. The guy has played his entire career on the West Coast. He's also made over $70,000,000 in his career counting the buyout he just got from the Sox. He was in line for 13 mil and took 5 million to get bought out, so even if he signs back with the Dodgers or D'Backs for like 6 million, he's costing himself 2 or 3 million and in the grand scheme, I can understand wanting to play where you want at age 35. BUT...there is a reason he declined an extra 8 million guaranteed dollars, and my guess is it's not just playing time, especially given he received nearly 500 PA's in 2022 and put up a 0.6 WAR..there isn't going to be a ton of OF starting jobs up for grabs for a 35 year old Pollock.
November 8, 20223 yr 7 minutes ago, T R U said: Whats the likelihood the Sox approached him and said "Listen, if you opt in the plan is to use you as a 4th OFer / Backup" and he just wasn't interested in that? That's my working theory. Like when they extended Orlando Cabrera a qualifying offer, but told him even if he accepts he's still going to backup Alexei. Edited November 8, 20223 yr by DirtySox
November 8, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Oh I agree. Just looking at the free agents options is discouraging, unless you want Tommy Pham or Kevin Pillar. Yeah, which doesn't exactly bode well. And cheap mediocre 4th OF fits the bill if they really are as "cash strapped" as they have hinted.
November 8, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: What was the story there? I don't remember the context. 1 minute ago, DirtySox said: That's my working theory. Like when they extended Orlando Cabrera a qualifying offer, but told him even if he accepts he's still going to backup Alexei. Edited November 8, 20223 yr by DirtySox
November 8, 20223 yr The Pollock money probably ends up going to a 5th starter. That means you got about $25 million to figure out 1 OF spot and maybe address 2B.
November 8, 20223 yr Just now, DirtySox said: Gotcha. Opt in if you want, but you're a back up either way. If so let's hope they have an actual plan that doesn't include Eloy, Sheets, and AV in the OF every day.
November 8, 20223 yr Wow didn’t see this coming. Must have not of liked it here or thought he could get 8 million on the market. Edited November 8, 20223 yr by maloney.adam
November 8, 20223 yr 11 minutes ago, Joshua Strong said: He must’ve really fucking hated playing for the Sox Could see it on his face in the middle of the year
November 8, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, Tnetennba said: Gotcha. Opt in if you want, but you're a back up either way. If so let's hope they have an actual plan that doesn't include Eloy, Sheets, and AV in the OF every day. You're probably gonna see Sheets out there now with Pollock off the roster. Hopefully they can sign a left handed corner OFer and Colas will cover RF in early May.
November 8, 20223 yr 5 minutes ago, chw42 said: The Pollock money probably ends up going to a 5th starter. That means you got about $25 million to figure out 1 OF spot and maybe address 2B. Get a lefty every day bat for LF or RF (Colas plays the other spot) and grab a right-handed 4th OF. Non-tender Engel please. Edited November 8, 20223 yr by Bob Sacamano
November 8, 20223 yr 1 minute ago, fathom said: IIRC he had a newborn in the last few years with significant health issues Didn't Kimbrel have a similar situation? They also got traded for each other.
November 8, 20223 yr On 11/2/2022 at 11:12 AM, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: . 3 minutes ago, fathom said: IIRC he had a newborn in the last few years with significant health issues That's the 12 yr at home. Born at 24 wks - spent 4 months in hospital
November 8, 20223 yr 4 minutes ago, chw42 said: You're probably gonna see Sheets out there now with Pollock off the roster. Hopefully they can sign a left handed corner OFer and Colas will cover RF in early May. I could live with Sheets in LF until Colas is up if they actually sign a real LH OF. He best never play RF again though.
November 8, 20223 yr Maybe the Sox told him they were going to trade him (eat some salary), and he preferred to pick his next destination. Regardless of the reason, thrilled he opted out.
November 8, 20223 yr 24 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Get a lefty every day bat for LF or RF (Colas plays the other spot) and grab a right-handed 4th OF. Benintendi at 3 years $42 million ($14 million AAV) to play LF now that Pollock is out of the picture Quintana/Manaea at 2 years $22 million ($11 million AAV) Kolten Wong at 2 years $15 million ($7.5 million AAV) I took at look at the 4th OF type FAs and most are lefties. None of the righties are really better than Engel nor can they fill in in CF. Benintendi, Wong, and Colas would remake this team offensively. As they go from having just 3 left handed bats (including switch hitters) to 5. Wong and Benintendi both had a wRC+ above 130 agains RHP. Edited November 8, 20223 yr by chw42
November 8, 20223 yr 2 minutes ago, chw42 said: Benintendi at 3 years $52 million ($14 million AAV) to play LF now that Pollock is out of the picture Quintana/Manaea at 2 years $22 million ($11 million AAV) Kolten Wong at 2 years $15 million ($7.5 million AAV) I took at look at the 4th OF type FAs and most are lefties. None of the righties are really better than Engel nor can they fill in in CF. Brewers picked up Wong's option.
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