January 19, 20233 yr 12 hours ago, Tnetennba said: It wasn’t working last season, so something needed to be fixed. He's non-short arm was a disaster for years. Which is why I am nervous.
January 19, 20233 yr 11 hours ago, chw42 said: I'm not sure getting rid of his short arm action is the right thing to do. It was the thing that made him effective because the release point made it hard to pick up the ball out of his hand. He also threw harder with the short arm action vs. his long arm action prior. I'm sure there's people way more knowledgeable than me advising him, but Lucas decided to bulk up last off-season and it didn't really help him. my concerns as well.
January 19, 20233 yr Author 17 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: He's non-short arm was a disaster for years. Which is why I am nervous. As I said, it wasn’t working last season and something needed to be fixed. Will this change work? Who knows. But I going to wait to see the results. I like that he’s putting in the work to fix whatever was broken. There is a lot on the line for Gio this season on top of team expectations, I highly doubt he’s approached this lightly.
January 19, 20233 yr 8 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: He's non-short arm was a disaster for years. Which is why I am nervous. He also only made the short arm super effective with the ridiculously spinny changeup though. Now that he can’t do that any more, it seems reasonable to try to adapt. But…he has never been effective against big leaguers without the short arm, so for the season who knows what this will bring.
January 19, 20233 yr 47 minutes ago, pcq said: He's going for that $10M pillow deal next season. Knowing Lucas, me thinks his mind is on much bigger things. Like the Wheeler deal.
January 19, 20233 yr Well, hopefully this works. Can't say he's not trying at least. ? I do notice a difference in his landing from 2020 to 2022, and the 2022 landing seems to have carried over to the above video.
January 19, 20233 yr Anyone else notice that the added "thickness" from last year seems gone. He looks in shape.
January 19, 20233 yr 18 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Short arm gone. Makes me more nervous In search of missing velocity?
January 19, 20233 yr 14 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: Based on the grip and the radar gun total it looked to me like he was throwing a circle change-up. It looked like it didn’t move a lot, or break down.
January 19, 20233 yr Pretty good twitter thread from Jordan Lazowski from Soxon35th breaking this down
January 19, 20233 yr 3 hours ago, BamaDoc said: Anyone else notice that the added "thickness" from last year seems gone. He looks in shape. I’ve never seen him in a gym shirt and shorts before ti compare. Need more information. He still looks pretty strong upstairs.
January 20, 20233 yr On 1/18/2023 at 9:45 PM, chw42 said: I'm not sure getting rid of his short arm action is the right thing to do. It was the thing that made him effective because the release point made it hard to pick up the ball out of his hand. He also threw harder with the short arm action vs. his long arm action prior. I'm sure there's people way more knowledgeable than me advising him, but Lucas decided to bulk up last off-season and it didn't really help him. Tech can work miracles. Lucas lost a little velocity before last year and got some bad body advice, and thought bulking would assist. Flexibility and band training are really what builds and maintains velo. It happens when you have so many trainers and people in your ear. Played with a kid I thought would be a big leaguer. Top tier player in the Midwest at showcases. Went to school and got huge in the weight room. Lost all his Flexibility and fluidity in his swing. Works for some but doesn't work for others in baseball. In regards to the arm action, this isn't some full extension parallel to the ground midpoint. He's still relatively short but he's giving his arm a little more time to not be out in front of his body/legs. This type of change is likely driven by good data and high speed tracking, which to me is way more reliable than work out ideas. I think Lucas has the best year of his career this year.
January 20, 20233 yr 23 hours ago, TheFutureIsNear said: Pretty good twitter thread from Jordan Lazowski from Soxon35th breaking this down Not sure who this is, but I agree. Pretty much what I was breaking down. This is a good refinement and not a full fledged change. Lucas body is different than it was and it'll continue to evolve. Changes to maintaining balance and a strong base through the ball are always needed. With Lucas he's just much more vocal and open about the work so it goes more noticed.
January 20, 20233 yr On 1/19/2023 at 9:29 AM, Balta1701 said: He also only made the short arm super effective with the ridiculously spinny changeup though. Now that he can’t do that any more, it seems reasonable to try to adapt. But…he has never been effective against big leaguers without the short arm, so for the season who knows what this will bring. You guys acting like this isn't still pretty short arm action is crazy to me.
January 21, 20233 yr On 1/20/2023 at 2:22 PM, Look at Ray Ray Run said: You guys acting like this isn't still pretty short arm action is crazy to me. That’s what I was thinking but I don’t know much about it so I didn’t say anything. Seems like he is keeping his arm tucked at his side pretty far into the delivery to me though.
January 21, 20233 yr I never realized how big Giolito is. Was listening to most recent Chuck G. & Ryan Mc podcast. They said that Gio is 6’ 7” and always been big, but then said that with the weight lifting bulk up he came in to spring training last year at 280. They said pretty early that it was clear that was a mistake, but once season starts, it’s really hard to make adjustments. Both were confident, with contract up and all factors this year, we’d see the return of good Giolito this year.
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