I guess it’s better to get swept by the best team in baseball as opposed to the Twins, who are in the process of getting swept by one of the worst (Washington).

7 minutes ago, FourEyesShottenhoffer said:

Whodafuq is Rocco

LF

When they start talking about it’s still early, we believe in this team crap, just remember, under JRs ownership, 4 other teams started the season 7-15. 1986, LaRussa got fired, came back to haunt us all. 1997, Terry Bevington last season. 2001, Big Hurt got inured, but they did ultimately win 83 that year, and 2018 when the lost 100. So as silly as it sounds, the playoffs are most likely already out of the question.

3 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

When they start talking about it’s still early, we believe in this team crap, just remember, under JRs ownership, 4 other teams started the season 7-15. 1986, LaRussa got fired, came back to haunt us all. 1997, Terry Bevington last season. 2001, Big Hurt got inured, but they did ultimately win 83 that year, and 2018 when the lost 100. So as silly as it sounds, the playoffs are most likely already out of the question.

I was looking for that data, where did you find it?

I'm still waiting for Vaughn to make me forget about Jose Abreu, Paul Konerko, Frank Thomas.

I don't see anything special in him. 

Edited April 23, 20232 yr by HOFHurt35

Maybe this whole team is dehydrated. Put down your caps and gloves and take a greyhound to Toronto.  

These guys suck

Sorry Lucas but when you give up 4 runs early, this offense will most likely not bail you out.

5 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said:

I'm still waiting for Vaughn to make me forget about Jose Abreu, Paul Konerko, Frank Thomas.

I don't see anything special in him. 

He’s doing much better than Jose this season. It was one thing they got right.

8 minutes ago, The Beast said:

I was looking for that data, where did you find it?

Baseball Reference.

4 minutes ago, wegner said:

Maybe this whole team is dehydrated. Put down your caps and gloves and take a greyhound to Toronto.  

Will just aggravate Moncada's back injury lol. 

We supposedly moved on from Jimenez and Sheets in the outfield I thought? 

Just now, caulfield12 said:

Will just aggravate Moncada's back injury lol. 

We supposedly moved on from Jimenez and Sheets in the outfield I thought? 

That guy from St Rita went to play in Japan, so back to plan A.

According to Gordo, the Sox are trying to tie this game up. Probably so they can get walked off again.

Burger really loves swinging at fastballs way inside

2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

He’s doing much better than Jose this season. It was one thing they got right.

This isn't about Jose for the 2023 season.  It's about Vaughn not being anything close to an elite bat in this league.  

Just now, Dick Allen said:

Baseball Reference.

Things would be even worse with Vaughn blocked (forced to trade)  AND Benintendi deal. 

Really think the entire team fed off Liam's emotions, dominance/competitive desire. 

Lopez shakiness undermining the whole team... not that it should affect players but psychology or mindset of a team is critical. 

Everyone also knows Giolito's and TA7's days with the team are numbered. 

7 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

They will eventually succeed with another organization lol... 3-5 years from now. 

Meatballs are the fans for believing every year that one of the rookies will actually hit the ground running with a seamless transition to the big leagues. 

Saint Louis Cardinals fans say hi.

Year - Round Drafted Player (IS = International Signing)  (Age - Round Drafted - Rookie Season bWar)

• 2022 - (7) Brendon Donovan (25 - 4.2)
• 2021 - (1) Dylan Carlson (22 - 3.1)
• 2021 - (IS) Edmundo Sosa (25 - 3.1)
• 2020 - Owner cancelled season
• 2019 - (6) Tommy Edman (24 - 3.9)
• 2018 - (3) Harrison Bader (24 - 3.4)
• 2018 - (1) Jack Flaherty (22 - 3.2)
• 2017 - (38) Paul DeJong (23 - 2.7)

Cardinal rookies each season exceed the production of nearly every White Sox veteran on an annual basis.

This is what happens when you have quality drafting in player development as a bedrock to your pipeline. And you pay these players $700k, not the $10M plus Hahn pays for shitty DHs (Dunn, LaRoche, Encarnacion) and Corner OFers (Benintendi, Cabrera, Eaton 2.0, Pollock).

Just now, HOFHurt35 said:

This isn't about Jose for the 2023 season.  It's about Vaughn not being anything close to an elite bat in this league.  

I think the pandemic really fucked with his development, IMO. 

How come when you say Grinders with the Rays you mean good baseball players and when you say Grinders with the Sox it means players that suck but maybe can play multiple positions poorly??

3 minutes ago, wegner said:

That guy from St Rita went to play in Japan, so back to plan A.

Greg775?  Ed Farmer? 

Jesus... Rays' pen like a knife through butter, Sox have pretty much just given up winning the game at this point. Acquiescing... 

1 minute ago, BigHurt3515 said:

I think the pandemic really fucked with his development, IMO. 

For a guy that’s supposed to be bad, his 116 OPS+ says he’s not nearly as bad as some thing.

1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:

Greg775?  Ed Farmer? 

Jesus... Rays' pen like a knife through butter, Sox have pretty much just given up winning the game at this point. Acquiescing... 

Getaway days are tough

4 minutes ago, BigHurt3515 said:

I think the pandemic really fucked with his development, IMO. 

I think the White Sox fucked with his development by putting him in the outfield.

2 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:

Saint Louis Cardinals fans say hi.

Year - Round Drafted Player (IS = International Signing)  (Age - Round Drafted - Rookie Season bWar)

• 2022 - (7) Brendon Donovan (25 - 4.2)
• 2021 - (1) Dylan Carlson (22 - 3.1)
• 2021 - (IS) Edmundo Sosa (25 - 3.1)
• 2020 - Owner cancelled season
• 2019 - (6) Tommy Edman (24 - 3.9)
• 2018 - (3) Harrison Bader (24 - 3.4)
• 2018 - (1) Jack Flaherty (22 - 3.2)
• 2017 - (38) Paul DeJong (23 - 2.7)

Cardinal rookies each season exceed the production of nearly every White Sox veteran on an annual basis.

This is what happens when you have quality drafting in player development as a bedrock to your pipeline. And you pay these players $700k, not the $10M plus Hahn pays for shitty DHs (Dunn, LaRoche, Encarnacion) and Corner OFers (Benintendi, Cabrera, Eaton 2.0, Pollock).

Carlos Martinez Jr. had quite a solid run there after leaving Sox with a plethora of injuries. 

Rangel Ravelo even contributed lol. 

Jordan Walker now looks awesome. 

McEwing must be elated to return to Cardinals' Nation. 

 

Losing Luis Robert Jr. to the Sox and the Oscar Taveras tragedy has hardly derailed that franchise. 

Are you trying to talk me out of watching that Blue Jay series Jason?  "Wow that lineup is awesome."