August 4Aug 4 Kenny always at least made exciting deals at the deadline, you could count on it. Some of them turned out to be disasters but oh well.
August 4Aug 4 2 minutes ago, Green Line said:Kenny always at least made exciting deals at the deadline, you could count on it. Some of them turned out to be disasters but oh well.The Castillo deal was very KW-esque
August 4Aug 4 3 minutes ago, fathom said:The Castillo deal was very KW-esqueBig name.Big contract.Questionable results.(See Preller, AJ)Better hope they don't get Elias'ed. Edited August 4Aug 4 by caulfield12
August 4Aug 4 Chicago White Sox: The White Sox are ahead of schedule, so it's understandable why they weren't more aggressive, but they didn't do much to improve the team. Castillo hasn't been that good with the Seattle Mariners and will cost $24 million next year. Brenton Doyle is a good defensive outfielder but can't hit. Huascar Brazoban might help the bullpen, but there were more impactful relievers who were traded. Joey Bart might help only because Chicago's catching situation has been so bad (last in the majors in the offense.)espn.comWhat's most frustrating is giving up two Top 15 prospects when CLE didn't give up anyone in their Top 20 and still had a more impactful deadline and also didn't add all that much in salary, either.Adell still costs less than Austin Hays.https://www.mlb.com/news/guardians-acquire-jo-adell-foster-griffin-nathaniel-lowe-before-trade-deadline&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwjD--KOm4aWAxXHIUQIHWSmM08QFnoECAsQAw&usg=AOvVaw3tTmkofi9YH1Ph7pkxEaYLSome ratings had Jacob Cozart (Adell trade) at #18, but overall point still stands...top of the system was totally untouched."Cozart, 23, ranks as the No. 18 prospect in the Guardians' organization, per MLB Pipeline. The 2024 second-round pick is hitting .239 with 10 homers and 44 RBIs in 79 games this season for Double-A Akron." Edited August 4Aug 4 by caulfield12
August 4Aug 4 https://www.yahoo.com/sports/articles/best-mlb-farm-systems-trade-234002603.htmlAll the AL Central farm systems except KC stacked up at 7-10have to be taking Roch into account despite not being listedDodgers passed by Mariners for #1 Edited August 4Aug 4 by caulfield12
Yesterday at 01:52 AM1 day This doesn't belong on page 9.....take no successful season for granted....nice deadline deals clown.
Yesterday at 03:28 AM1 day 1 hour ago, wegner said:This doesn't belong on page 9.....take no successful season for granted....nice deadline deals clown.“What are you doin’, Wegner?!?”16-18 since the trade deadline. 🫣They really need to go streaking... Edited yesterday at 03:35 AM1 day by WhiteSox2023
Yesterday at 03:40 AM1 day 7 minutes ago, ron883 said:“We had teams all the way to about No. 20 that told us if Konner made it to them, they were going to take him and we already knew what dollar amount that they were willing to go above their slot,” Kevin says. “So, we weren’t stressed about it a whole lot. We did have to convince Konnor that turning down the fourth, fifth or sixth pick in the draft was not a bad thing. It just came down to fit and where we felt he could thrive. We kind of slow played it and held out a little bit until Pittsburgh came along.”The Griffins waited through eight picks. Kevin says two of the eight teams called with offers “to go like $2 million under slot.” Kevin told them, “Don’t pick him. He’ll go to LSU if you do.”Four of the first eight teams signed players for less than slot money: the Guardians at No. 1 (Travis Bazzana), the Reds at No. 2 (Chase Burns), the Athletics at No. 4 (Nick Kurtz) and the Angels at No. 8 (Christian Moore).www.si.com
Yesterday at 03:42 AM1 day They could have also simply drafted Caglianone for RF and substituted a starting pitcher in for Braden in that Crochet trade and ended up much better off...arguably
Yesterday at 03:46 AM1 day 17 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:“What are you doin’, Wegner?!?”16-18 since the trade deadline. 🫣They really need to go streaking...To many holes to pull that off.
Yesterday at 03:47 AM1 day 4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:“We had teams all the way to about No. 20 that told us if Konner made it to them, they were going to take him and we already knew what dollar amount that they were willing to go above their slot,” Kevin says. “So, we weren’t stressed about it a whole lot. We did have to convince Konnor that turning down the fourth, fifth or sixth pick in the draft was not a bad thing. It just came down to fit and where we felt he could thrive. We kind of slow played it and held out a little bit until Pittsburgh came along.”The Griffins waited through eight picks. Kevin says two of the eight teams called with offers “to go like $2 million under slot.” Kevin told them, “Don’t pick him. He’ll go to LSU if you do.”Four of the first eight teams signed players for less than slot money: the Guardians at No. 1 (Travis Bazzana), the Reds at No. 2 (Chase Burns), the Athletics at No. 4 (Nick Kurtz) and the Angels at No. 8 (Christian Moore).www.si.comWhat am I missing here? Griffin is a fine player but he's not setting the world on fire. If he were here, we'd be complaining about his lack of power and ability to get on base. His superpower seems to be speed. Not defending taking Smith but I'm also not sure griffin is a world beater.
Yesterday at 03:51 AM1 day 3 minutes ago, Colome's Hat said:What am I missing here? Griffin is a fine player but he's not setting the world on fire. If he were here, we'd be complaining about his lack of power and ability to get on base. His superpower seems to be speed. Not defending taking Smith but I'm also not sure griffin is a world beater.You’re right, but he’s also only been age 20 for around 4 months. He’s holding his own and will likely continue to improve. Meanwhile, we pretty much have to use Hagen in a 1 to 3 inning relief role because the Sox are likely afraid he will walk the world as a starter. Edited yesterday at 03:53 AM1 day by WhiteSox2023
Yesterday at 03:52 AM1 day 23 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:“What are you doin’, Wegner?!?”16-18 since the trade deadline. 🫣They really need to go streaking...they haven't had a real losing streak either
Yesterday at 03:53 AM1 day 12 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:“We had teams all the way to about No. 20 that told us if Konner made it to them, they were going to take him and we already knew what dollar amount that they were willing to go above their slot,” Kevin says. “So, we weren’t stressed about it a whole lot. We did have to convince Konnor that turning down the fourth, fifth or sixth pick in the draft was not a bad thing. It just came down to fit and where we felt he could thrive. We kind of slow played it and held out a little bit until Pittsburgh came along.”The Griffins waited through eight picks. Kevin says two of the eight teams called with offers “to go like $2 million under slot.” Kevin told them, “Don’t pick him. He’ll go to LSU if you do.”Four of the first eight teams signed players for less than slot money: the Guardians at No. 1 (Travis Bazzana), the Reds at No. 2 (Chase Burns), the Athletics at No. 4 (Nick Kurtz) and the Angels at No. 8 (Christian Moore).www.si.comThere’s a video documenting his draft day. He 100 pct thought the Sox were taking him.
Yesterday at 03:54 AM1 day Just now, kitekrazy said:they haven't had a real losing streak eitherWell they've now lost seven of 10.
Yesterday at 04:54 AM1 day 1 hour ago, fathom said:There’s a video documenting his draft day. He 100 pct thought the Sox were taking him.“I thought the White Sox were going to take him at No. 5,” said Griffin’s agent, Joey Devine of Excel Sports Management. “I know [amateur scouting director] Mike Shirley and that front office really liked him and they scouted him really heavy.”Pittsburgh post gazettebut why would Jerry overrule this?he hates pitchers...more than prep bats? Edited yesterday at 04:58 AM1 day by caulfield12
Yesterday at 12:46 PM1 day 7 hours ago, caulfield12 said:“I thought the White Sox were going to take him at No. 5,” said Griffin’s agent, Joey Devine of Excel Sports Management. “I know [amateur scouting director] Mike Shirley and that front office really liked him and they scouted him really heavy.”Pittsburgh post gazettebut why would Jerry overrule this?he hates pitchers...more than prep bats?It wasn't Jerry, it was Getz.
Yesterday at 01:19 PM1 day 9 hours ago, Colome's Hat said:What am I missing here? Griffin is a fine player but he's not setting the world on fire. If he were here, we'd be complaining about his lack of power and ability to get on base. His superpower seems to be speed. Not defending taking Smith but I'm also not sure griffin is a world beater.He’s 20 years old and has missed a lot of time this season.Dude is gonna be a superstar very soon.
23 hours ago23 hr 19 minutes ago, Snopek said:He’s 20 years old and has missed a lot of time this season.Dude is gonna be a superstar very soon.Witt's first season was a bit of atruggle, too.MiLB Career StatsABAVGHRRBISBOPS513.337229868.959 Edited 23 hours ago23 hr by caulfield12
11 hours ago11 hr 13 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:Well, maybe we are seeing the reason Getz didn't go all in on 26.Yeah he doesn’t get credit for that, as he made them worse while utilizing resources
11 hours ago11 hr 6 minutes ago, fathom said:Yeah he doesn’t get credit for that, as he made them worse while utilizing resources16-19 record since the trade deadline. That’s a 74 win pace over a full season. No gouda. Edited 11 hours ago11 hr by WhiteSox2023
11 hours ago11 hr 11 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:16-19 record since the trade deadline. That’s a 74 win pace over a full season. No gouda.But almost exactly what Soxtalk predicted at the beginning of the season.
10 hours ago10 hr 21 minutes ago, fathom said:Yeah he doesn’t get credit for that, as he made them worse while utilizing resourcesAnd maybe made them worse in 2027 by having to pay Castillo to be s%*#.
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