The Twins turned Griffin Jax into Taj Bradley.

Meanwhile, all I hear about with the Sox bad returns is that there's nothing Getz can do about that.

If they go through this season with everyone regressing and lose 100 games again, I would like to think that firing Getz comes to the table. Especially if you have Ishbia in JR's ear.

18 minutes ago, T R U said:

If they go through this season with everyone regressing and lose 100 games again, I would like to think that firing Getz comes to the table. Especially if you have Ishbia in JR's ear.

Clean house entirely, except maybe Shirley

2 hours ago, T R U said:

If they go through this season with everyone regressing and lose 100 games again, I would like to think that firing Getz comes to the table. Especially if you have Ishbia in JR's ear.

I'd be all for that move but with labor unrest and the possibility of a long lockout causing 2027 regular season games to go by the board, I can't see JR doing something like what you are speculating on.

2 hours ago, T R U said:

If they go through this season with everyone regressing and lose 100 games again, I would like to think that firing Getz comes to the table. Especially if you have Ishbia in JR's ear.

In interviews last fall, Ishbia made clear that JR is in charge and that he's not involved in or second-guessing operations of the team.

I can only imagine that doesn't extend to a long-term issue like getting a new stadium designed and built, but as much as I'd like to see some house cleaning leading to more competent leadership asap, I just don't see that happening until at least 2029.

13 minutes ago, 77 Hitmen said:

In interviews last fall, Ishbia made clear that JR is in charge and that he's not involved in or second-guessing operations of the team.

I can only imagine that doesn't extend to a long-term issue like getting a new stadium designed and built, but as much as I'd like to see some house cleaning leading to more competent leadership asap, I just don't see that happening until at least 2029.

He has to say that to keep the IRS at bay for Jerry. If he is the control person early, it moves the transaction and taxes happen pre death and again at death.

3 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

The Twins turned Griffin Jax into Taj Bradley.

Meanwhile, all I hear about with the Sox bad returns is that there's nothing Getz can do about that.

Taj Bradley has been good for four starts and he was a well below average starter for 350 innings before that. I get that he's young and this was likely at least a solid trade that only cost a pretty good reliever, but if Taj started off terribly this year you wouldn't be bringing this up.

26 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

He has to say that to keep the IRS at bay for Jerry. If he is the control person early, it moves the transaction and taxes happen pre death and again at death.

I don't understand this. If JR doesn't sell his shares but simply allows Ishbia to run the show why would there be any tax implication?

There are two phases of being a White Sox fan for me. There's the phase where you hold out hope an objectively bad hire somehow turns into a good hire despite the terrible process and decisionmaking behind it (because hey, what else can you do?) Then there's the phase where you accept that, unsurprisingly, the bad hire was just a bad hire and you resign yourself to watching things deteriorate until the next bad hire restarts the process. I think I'm right between phase 1 and phase 2 right now.

46 minutes ago, 77 Hitmen said:

In interviews last fall, Ishbia made clear that JR is in charge and that he's not involved in or second-guessing operations of the team.

I can only imagine that doesn't extend to a long-term issue like getting a new stadium designed and built, but as much as I'd like to see some house cleaning leading to more competent leadership asap, I just don't see that happening until at least 2029.

He has to make it clear JR is in charge, because as of right now he is, but you all are kidding yourself if you think someone makes a billion dollar investment into something and has no input what so ever.

1 hour ago, almagest said:

Taj Bradley has been good for four starts and he was a well below average starter for 350 innings before that. I get that he's young and this was likely at least a solid trade that only cost a pretty good reliever, but if Taj started off terribly this year you wouldn't be bringing this up.

Not true at all. I literally sang the praises of that move and Bradley himself last year after the Twins acquired him and when he was struggling.

On 8/1/2025 at 9:14 AM, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

While they had to sell to cut payroll, I think the Twins have the best future rotation in the central - better than Detroit. I'm a big fan of Abel and Bradley's arms, and zebby has looked dominant. Add in Pablo and Ober getting healthy with Joe Ryan, and I'd take those six for the next three years over most. Consider that Festa and Woods-Richardson are 7-8 guys and the Twins are deep in the rotation.

Edit: forgot Joe Ryan who they should move for bats.

"Gotta say for the division in the dumps crowd... As a believer in Taj Bradley and still a believer in Zebby Mathews and Mick Abel, the Twins rotation has a ton of upside."

On 8/1/2025 at 9:08 AM, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Twins getting Taj Bradley was a big one imo. He's got all the tools to be a #1 in this league. 

1 hour ago, supernuke said:

I don't understand this. If JR doesn't sell his shares but simply allows Ishbia to run the show why would there be any tax implication?

If the implication is that the "sale" has already taken place in all but name, that's fraud. It would look pretty obvious if all of the sudden if Jerry were ceding control of the franchise without an actual sale having taken place (and remember, there is no actual OBLIGATION for the sale to take place in this agreement, simply options for it to happen in the future) it means the sale has already effectively happened, meaning that Jerry owes capital gains takes NOW, and then he will owe taxes again upon his death with the transition of his estate.

1 hour ago, 35thstreetswarm said:

There are two phases of being a White Sox fan for me. There's the phase where you hold out hope an objectively bad hire somehow turns into a good hire despite the terrible process and decisionmaking behind it (because hey, what else can you do?) Then there's the phase where you accept that, unsurprisingly, the bad hire was just a bad hire and you resign yourself to watching things deteriorate until the next bad hire restarts the process. I think I'm right between phase 1 and phase 2 right now.

It overlaps the stages of grief way too well.