Or they could have simply spent that money adding to/around Robert…if they can’t even afford to go over $100 million, why is JR holding out until 2019-34?

Edited yesterday at 03:29 AM1 day by caulfield12

6 minutes ago, vilehoopster said:

Who the Sox got out the Luis Robert trade got both saves in the two wins in KC. To say the Sox only got Acuna is an example of classic card stacking propaganda: Your only present half the facts because when all facts are considered, your argument falls apart.

Plus, once he learns the position, say by July, Acuna could very well be looking better than Robert on the IL. A very real possibility and Sox will still have Dominguez saving games.

You are presenting things that haven’t even happened yet, and may not ever happen. You’re only presenting made-up guesses of the future because when all facts are considered, your argument falls apart.

If Acuna keeps hitting like he has been, he’ll be on the bench.

Edited yesterday at 03:35 AM1 day by WhiteSox2023

5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Or they could have simply spent that money adding to/around Robert…if they can’t even afford to go over $100 million, why is JR holding out until 2019-34?

Exactly. @vilehoopster seems to think that a free agent can’t be signed until a player is traded away to free up money. That’s not how real organizations that aren’t a joke function.

Edited yesterday at 03:32 AM1 day by WhiteSox2023

3 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Exactly. @vilehoopster seems to think that a free agent can’t be signed until a player is traded away to free up money. That’s not how real organizations that aren’t a joke function.

If they didn’t have the money, they wouldn’t have picked up Hicks’ commitment for a #13 prospect in Sandlin?

On the theoretical open market, how much would teams bid for Acuna or Sandlin as of today? $3 million? $5 million?

Certainly not more than they’re going to pay Cholowsky…then again, they’re out there on a limb on their assessment of Murakami now so maybe better to do nothing and wait for a legit shot caller.

(IMO Yoshida Sasaki Okamoto Imai and Murakami got “floated up” in perceived value by the sheer transcendence of Ohtani and Yamamoto.)

So if a GM makes an intelligent trade to free up some money on a player whom we have seen is injured a 1/3 of his playing time (cracks me up that proving he was out ONLY 33% of his time with the Sox was presented as evidence that Robert was a good/ dependable player, missing 33%) - trading this player for a potential high ceiling player and freeing up the money to buy a closer, the one thing the Sox most desperately needed, this smart move is evidence Getz should be fired and that Sox are a “joke” organization?

Oh, okay. Now I understand and agree with your point.

5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

If they didn’t have the money, they wouldn’t have picked up Hicks’ commitment for a #13 prospect in Sandlin?

On the theoretical open market, how much would teams bid for Acuna or Sandlin as of today? $3 million? $5 million?

Certainly not more than they’re going to pay Cholowsky…then again, they’re out there on a limb on their assessment of Murakami now so maybe better to do nothing and wait for a legit shot caller.

(IMO Yoshida Sasaki Okamoto Imai and Murakami got “floated up” in perceived value by the sheer transcendence of Ohtani and Yamamoto.)

1st of all, so you’ve already given up on Murakami being a good signing? This early? That is saying something there. But you might be right.

Plus, getting Hicks and Sandlin could turn out to be a very good move, both short term and long term. You guys don’t agree but then make these statements that you’re right and Getz is wrong like they’re absolute facts.

18 minutes ago, vilehoopster said:

1st of all, so you’ve already given up on Murakami being a good signing? This early? That is saying something there. But you might be right.

Plus, getting Hicks and Sandlin could turn out to be a very good move, both short term and long term. You guys don’t agree but then make these statements that you’re right and Getz is wrong like they’re absolute facts.

Sandlin, yes. We’ll have to see if he was worth taking on Hicks and $16 million. Right now, Hicks looks like an overpaid reliever, even with Boston chipping in $8 million.

56 minutes ago, vilehoopster said:

Who the Sox got out the Luis Robert trade got both saves in the two wins in KC. To say the Sox only got Acuna is an example of classic card stacking propaganda: Your only present half the facts because when all facts are considered, your argument falls apart.

Plus, once he learns the position, say by July, Acuna could very well be looking better than Robert on the IL. A very real possibility and Sox will still have Dominguez saving games.

Or hear me out... the Sox could have paid Robert and Dominguez.

Why you keep acting like they had to trade Robert to sign dominguez I'm not sure.

35 minutes ago, vilehoopster said:

So if a GM makes an intelligent trade to free up some money on a player whom we have seen is injured a 1/3 of his playing time (cracks me up that proving he was out ONLY 33% of his time with the Sox was presented as evidence that Robert was a good/ dependable player, missing 33%) - trading this player for a potential high ceiling player and freeing up the money to buy a closer, the one thing the Sox most desperately needed, this smart move is evidence Getz should be fired and that Sox are a “joke” organization?

Oh, okay. Now I understand and agree with your point.

To free up money? He was the one who picked up the option to spend the money a few weeks prior.

9 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

To free up money? He was the one who picked up the option to spend the money a few weeks prior.

YES! and he was able to then trade him for Acuna and STILL have the money to get Dominguez and acquire Hicks and Sandlin.

How can you not see that as a smart move? It makes no sense to complain about picking up Robert’s option. It was such a smart move.

16 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Or hear me out... the Sox could have paid Robert and Dominguez.

Why you keep acting like they had to trade Robert to sign dominguez I'm not sure.

You’re debating in good faith here. You know that the financial restraints put on Getz by Jerry made that impossible for Getz to do that.

19 minutes ago, vilehoopster said:

YES! and he was able to then trade him for Acuna and STILL have the money to get Dominguez and acquire Hicks and Sandlin.

How can you not see that as a smart move? It makes no sense to complain about picking up Robert’s option. It was such a smart move.

I understand why they wanted out of the Luis Robert business, but I think the most likely outcome is Robert produces more WAR this season than Dominguez, Hayes, and Acuna Jr (combined) ever do for the White Sox.

3 hours ago, maxjusttyped said:

I understand why they wanted out of the Luis Robert business, but I think the most likely outcome is Robert produces more WAR this season than Dominguez, Hayes, and Acuna Jr (combined) ever do for the White Sox.

Let's throw Hicks' - fWAR already in there for good measure, along with Newcomb.

9 hours ago, vilehoopster said:

So if a GM makes an intelligent trade to free up some money on a player whom we have seen is injured a 1/3 of his playing time (cracks me up that proving he was out ONLY 33% of his time with the Sox was presented as evidence that Robert was a good/ dependable player, missing 33%) - trading this player for a potential high ceiling player and freeing up the money to buy a closer, the one thing the Sox most desperately needed, this smart move is evidence Getz should be fired and that Sox are a “joke” organization?

Oh, okay. Now I understand and agree with your point.

He missed the window twice when he could have gotten way more for him. THAT'S why this wasn't a great trade. It's letting your stock go from an all time high, to a 52 week low, and then selling.

10 hours ago, vilehoopster said:

1st of all, so you’ve already given up on Murakami being a good signing? This early? That is saying something there. But you might be right.

Plus, getting Hicks and Sandlin could turn out to be a very good move, both short term and long term. You guys don’t agree but then make these statements that you’re right and Getz is wrong like they’re absolute facts.

The league clearly adjusted after the first week.

Time for him to adjust back.

Sure he still has a better ops than Colson with all the walks recently, nut a low 700s ops 1b/DH isn't even valued at whatever low level Lenyn Sosa is as of today.

High ceiling players isn't the point if the White Sox can't do anything with that talent to help it reach it's potential...even the Nats have Curtis Mead looking like at least a viable big leaguer.

Same thing with Tristan Grey in Minnesota, who has 11 rbi's in roughly half the playing time of guys like Murakami and Colson.

f*** you Getzy.....you are worthless. If I was as bad at my job as you are, I would fire myself.

AVG mlb of production so far

LF 668 ops

CF 670 ops

RF 730 ops

Pereira 794

Harris 792

Hill 650

Hays 586

Murray 538

Peters 532

Benintendi 495

Acuna 420

Welp, he can still win a trade by default

17 hours ago, wegner said:

f*** you Getzy.....you are worthless. If I was as bad at my job as you are, I would fire myself.

WHAT ARE YOU DOING WEGNER???

31 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

WHAT ARE YOU DOING WEGNER???

MY DAMN JOB!!!!!

On 4/12/2026 at 9:19 PM, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Or hear me out... the Sox could have paid Robert and Dominguez.

Why you keep acting like they had to trade Robert to sign dominguez I'm not sure.

Why do you keep acting like JR hadnt capped the spending and Robert's salary being gone was not the only way for Getz to spend another $20M ?

Have you not been paying attention to the reality of this team.I understand why youre not willing to accept it but why question another fan about decisions that are not in his control ?

Wish casting wont make JR spend more than he has budgeted.

Edited 3 hours ago3 hr by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

On 4/12/2026 at 8:26 PM, caulfield12 said:

Or they could have simply spent that money adding to/around Robert…if they can’t even afford to go over $100 million, why is JR holding out until 2019-34?

Ask JR ??? 2029-2034

Misstype

On 4/12/2026 at 10:26 PM, caulfield12 said:

Or they could have simply spent that money adding to/around Robert…if they can’t even afford to go over $100 million, why is JR holding out until 2019-34?

Pride and ego that has blinded him to the reality that this organization has become a total train wreck over the last 10-15 years under his leadership. Dead last in revenue in the MLB and two years in a row of decline in franchise valuation when everyone else is going up in value (some franchises significantly going up). He's either oblivious to this franchise's problems or just doesn't care.

Firing Getz would likely mean some equally inept loyalist would take his place - probably with TLR involved in the selection process.

Hey, he moved Hawk from the broadcast booth to GM once, maybe next time he can do the same with Schriffen!