Between the deadline and the Pham stuff, Getz’s reputation has taken a giant tumble. He’s getting roasted everywhere now.

58 minutes ago, fathom said:

Between the deadline and the Pham stuff, Getz’s reputation has taken a giant tumble. He’s getting roasted everywhere now.

As he should.

I wonder what Getz’s next blunder is? We have blown deadline, blown 2027 budget, blown division lead and having to fire Scouting Director.

2 hours ago, fathom said:

I wonder what Getz’s next blunder is? We have blown deadline, blown 2027 budget, blown division lead and having to fire Scouting Director.

Pics of sexy blow/n up doll in 2025 clubhouse?

2 hours ago, fathom said:

I wonder what Getz’s next blunder is? We have blown deadline, blown 2027 budget, blown division lead and having to fire Scouting Director.

Sign Castillo to an extension or tender Doyle a contract in the offseason.

34 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Pics of sexy blow/n up doll in 2025 clubhouse?

Maybe just AI pics. Castillo took up the budget.

If we win this division nobody will care how we got there. All they can control is the next 10 games against sub .500 teams, 7 of which are at home.

Yes, the Starting Pitching has been s%*# most of the year.

Yes, the relief is gassed.

Yes, our supposed best hitters are in a horrific slump the past two months.

Yes, the trade deadline has been a spectacular failure.

Having said all that, they still control their own destiny.

Find a way to win 7, you punch your ticket to win the division. Win 6- probably punch your ticket into the playoffs anyway.

Nut up and just win.

I believe the Sox had 14 call ups this season. Next year does Bonemer get called up after the All-Star break? Is Roch call ed up in 2028 ?

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Mason Adams going tonight for Colorado.

3.38 ERA

Scheduled to start final game of the season at GRF next Sunday.

Look at how long it took for Jerry to fire KW and Hahn. Getzy ain't going anywhere - perhaps not until after Reinsdorf hands over control of the franchise to Ishbia at the Railyards.

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7 minutes ago, 77 Hitmen said:

Look at how long it took for Jerry to fire KW and Hahn. Getzy ain't going anywhere - perhaps not until after Reinsdorf hands over control of the franchise to Ishbia at the Railyards.

This season probably bought Getz three more additional years

19 minutes ago, fathom said:

This season probably bought Getz three more additional years

Yet so many are deluded. This success was mostly down with outside talent.

Sometime the next season doesn't work as well and then go back to rebuilding the rebuild of the rebuild. That's what poor organizations do. Short spurts of success.

Sure people can talk about the big spending teams but many of their better players were home grown. They don't fall apart due to injuries.

Too many bad owners in this game, way too many.

Winning is a habit and so is losing. I doubt this team will ever have sustained success in my lifetime.

A change in ownership probably doesn't keep Getz. People don't get promoted despite being inadequate in the previous job in the world of sports.

This is the White Sox............so surreal.

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3 hours ago, kwill said:

If we win this division nobody will care how we got there. All they can control is the next 10 games against sub .500 teams, 7 of which are at home.

Yes, the Starting Pitching has been s%*# most of the year.

Yes, the relief is gassed.

Yes, our supposed best hitters are in a horrific slump the past two months.

Yes, the trade deadline has been a spectacular failure.

Having said all that, they still control their own destiny.

Find a way to win 7, you punch your ticket to win the division. Win 6- probably punch your ticket into the playoffs anyway.

Nut up and just win.

Very easy to say but very difficult to do given all of the shortcoming you just listed AND let's not overlook the fact that for a bunch of these guys this is the first time in a pressure situation with a lot on the line.

To me mentally and physically these guys look like very, VERY little is left in the tank.

That's why it was so important to get help at the trade deadline. Instead the organization got dogshit players.

I havent posted here much this year, but im irate at how the deadline has gone down.

Besides the already talked about bigger trades that went down in August, I am so dumbfounded at how we didnt get some sort of insurance for Braden’s woes against LHP.

Before the deadline, Braden’s wRC+ against lefties was 51 in 47 PAs. After the deadline and to today his wRC+ is 7.

Cleveland’s GM plugged in Adell to help with their hitting vs lefties in Jo Adell: 223 wRC+

Hell we RELEASED Austin Hays on August 7th. With the Padres hes put up a 192 wRC+.

Looking back, a platoon for Braden was an obvious necessity. At least get some insurance for him. Just mind boggling to me how they keep trotting him out there at this point against lefties.

we made a huge jump from 100 loss seasons to competing for the division. Nobody is getting fired

13 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Sign Castillo to an extension or tender Doyle a contract in the offseason.

Zero reason not to tender Doyle a contract. He’s a worth a gamble with a full offseason to work on changes. I’m not optimistic it will work, but he’s young enough and has the tools to get better. Why we acquired him at the deadline and thought we could fix him mid season is a different matter. And to give up a major league ready pitcher for him when we were in desperate need of SP is sort of mind boggling to me.

Trading for Castillo will always remain a stupid & arrogant move. Getz may have cost himself GM of the Year with that move alone. Just so much bad about it as it made us worse this year, ate up significant payroll space next year, and cost us a prospect who could help us in 2028 and beyond. I hated the move at the time and hate it even moreso now given that Luis alone being so bad might be what costs us the division and/or a playoff spot.

I was becoming a bit of a Chris defender before the deadline, but I can’t ignore how bad the deadline was for us. Getz may have read the room correctly that this team was going to regress hard at some point, but why make the Castillo trade then? Hold your top prospects, add some low impact pitching depth, and give Adams a shot. If it didn’t work out, at least you hadn’t weakened yourself going into the 2027. Just can’t believe we’re going to be stuck with broken ass Luis Castillo for another year at $22. What a fucking nightmare from where we were just two months ago.

So here's the thing, if Chris Getz didn't do short term adds to this team because he felt they weren't a worthy playoff team, he's being proven right. To do otherwise is sunk cost fallacy.

37 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

So here's the thing, if Chris Getz didn't do short term adds to this team because he felt they weren't a worthy playoff team, he's being proven right. To do otherwise is sunk cost fallacy.

Castillo trade conflicts with this theory.

19 minutes ago, Paulie4Pres said:

Castillo trade conflicts with this theory.

Him and Doyle are two year trades, playing for next year.

12 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Him and Doyle are two year trades, playing for next year.

What next year? Also, he's old and they actually gave up value for him.

I have another theory. He's just a bad GM.

5 minutes ago, Paulie4Pres said:

What next year? Also, he's old and they actually gave up value for him.

I have another theory. He's just a bad GM.

I am not saying those were good trades, I am saying they weren't to win this year, and it was for next year.

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

I am not saying those were good trades, I am saying they weren't to win this year, and it was for next year.

even below mediocre pitching is expensive if one is not using the Sox yardstick

2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

I am not saying those were good trades, I am saying they weren't to win this year, and it was for next year.

There's probably not even going to be a season. It makes even less sense when you take that into consideration.