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Reds, Marlins, Giants, and Dbacks all 70-67 with 25 left. The Reds are 1-1 in the final 25.

Dbacks have a losing season series vs the other 3, so they’ll need to be one game better than all of them. 

Cubs are +3 but hopefully they blow it. They play the Giants and Dbacks this week.

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  • 35thstreetswarm
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    This race has pulled me back in to an otherwise miserable season.  This is why you need a secondary rooting interest.  My Cub hatred has brought me considerable joy over my lifetime  ?

  • No they wont.  That's just a projection from someone suffering from habitual losing fanbase syndrome.  Coulda, woulda ,shoulda,  They are rental players.   Do you really think the Cubs ignored any off

  • Marlins never let us down!

Look at those rosters.  Doesn't take much to be in that race.  With that being said, how the Padres, Mets and Cards not sniffing the playoffs is something.

Dodgers have all sorts of pitching issues now as well

On 9/3/2023 at 7:49 PM, flavum said:

Reds, Marlins, Giants, and Dbacks all 70-67 with 25 left. The Reds are 1-1 in the final 25.

Dbacks have a losing season series vs the other 3, so they’ll need to be one game better than all of them. 

Cubs are +3 but hopefully they blow it. They play the Giants and Dbacks this week.

Face it, The Cubs are in, one way or the another.

2 hours ago, Highland said:

Face it, The Cubs are in, one way or the another.

They’ve kept winning. Definitely did not anticipate cubs and brewers winning as often and as convincingly as they have. 

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If the Marlins and Giants win today, the four teams will be 76-71, with 15 left.

Hope the Dbacks sweep the Cubs this weekend.

On 9/6/2023 at 1:18 PM, fathom said:

Dodgers have all sorts of pitching issues now as well

Lynn has now added to that.

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Reds, Marlins, Dbacks lost today. Giants rained out…two on Sat. 

2 hours ago, Balta1701 said:

 

3-4 games over .500 should not be within sniffing distance of a legitimate playoff spot. Would have great AL division races if playoffs were limited to two teams in each league. Atlanta and Los Angeles would easily win their respective divisions, and quite frankly no other team deserves to be in the NLCS.

AL East Baltimore vs. Tampa 1 GB (also ran - Toronto, Boston, New York, Cleveland, Detroit)

AL West Houston vs. Texas 1/2 GB & Seattle 1 GB (also ran - Minnesota, Los Angeles, Chicago, Kansas City, Oakland)

4 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said:

3-4 games over .500 should not be within sniffing distance of a legitimate playoff spot. Would have great AL division races if playoffs were limited to two teams in each league. Atlanta and Los Angeles would easily win their respective divisions, and quite frankly no other team deserves to be in the NLCS.

AL East Baltimore vs. Tampa 1 GB (also ran - Toronto, Boston, New York, Cleveland, Detroit)

AL West Houston vs. Texas 1/2 GB & Seattle 1 GB (also ran - Minnesota, Los Angeles, Chicago, Kansas City, Oakland)

Baseball is an increasingly regional game....outside of those teams like Yankees Red Sox Dodgers Cubs and Braves.

Only having a few playoff teams would dramatically drive down attendance and tv ratings in at least half the markets.

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2 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said:

3-4 games over .500 should not be within sniffing distance of a legitimate playoff spot. Would have great AL division races if playoffs were limited to two teams in each league. Atlanta and Los Angeles would easily win their respective divisions, and quite frankly no other team deserves to be in the NLCS.

AL East Baltimore vs. Tampa 1 GB (also ran - Toronto, Boston, New York, Cleveland, Detroit)

AL West Houston vs. Texas 1/2 GB & Seattle 1 GB (also ran - Minnesota, Los Angeles, Chicago, Kansas City, Oakland)

Great way to kill the excitement in a sport where it is declining anyway. 

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Giants are playing their way out of this vs Rockies 

Hopefully it’s 72 losses each for Cubs, Dbacks, Marlins, and Reds with two weeks left. 

On 9/15/2023 at 8:42 PM, caulfield12 said:

Baseball is an increasingly regional game....outside of those teams like Yankees Red Sox Dodgers Cubs and Braves.

Only having a few playoff teams would dramatically drive down attendance and tv ratings in at least half the markets.

 

On 9/15/2023 at 9:51 PM, kitekrazy said:

Great way to kill the excitement in a sport where it is declining anyway. 

Funny, I still remember and cherish the 1978 Bucky Dent game, Reuss vs. Nolan Ryan a couple years later. Braves vs. Giants in 1993. Sox fans remember fondly they blackout game in 2008. 

All of that was flushed down the toilet expanding playoffs from four division winners to the 12-16 team bullshit playoffs of the past few seasons. Could have a final few weeks that really matter in both AL divisions, and an assured battle of the titans between the Braves and Dodgers, clearly the two best teams. 

Interest in the sport is declining because of the greedy Reinsdorf money grub of claiming "meaningful September games", when nobody across the country gives a rats ass about this seeding musical chair bullshit. The 162 game season was called a championship season for a reason. Now it's garbage like the other three pro sports, and college basketball, allowing any team with a pulse to claim their playoff participation trophy, and downgrade the World Series to not a contest among the best over the long season, but a contest between who was hot and healthy over a couple weeks in October.

When seasons and championships mattered, baseball drew over 40 million viewers each game. Today, they get 10-12M with double the American population.

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If the Cubs lose tonight…

Cubs, Dbacks, Reds, Marlins all 78-72 after 150. Top two make the playoffs. Cubs lost season series against all three.

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The Cubs are out with two weeks left, but they’re home vs Pirates and Rockies this week. 

6 hours ago, flavum said:

If the Cubs lose tonight…

Cubs, Dbacks, Reds, Marlins all 78-72 after 150. Top two make the playoffs. Cubs lost season series against all three.

Reds have 73 losses.

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7 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said:

Reds have 73 losses.

Yes, they lost today.  All four were 78-72 after 150. Arizona is 79-72 now with the win tonight. 

2 hours ago, flavum said:

The Cubs are out with two weeks left, but they’re home vs Pirates and Rockies this week. 

Rockies have played well recently...well, comparatively.

2001/2002/2004 all had numbers in the 30 millions or close.

2001 peaked at 39 million for Game 7, but the rating/share was 23.5/34.

Surely the audience has become more fragmented when comparing cable and satellite options versus what was once just 2-3 national television channels in CBS NBC then ABC.

 

It's much more relevant to compare the NBA and MLB based on length of series and the singular marketing phenomenon which are the Super Bowl ads and half time performance.

 

The NBA is less profitable but arguably more popular but MLB wins the revenue battle by $14 vs. $12 billion.

NFL at $25 billion nearly doubling both leagues

20 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said:

 

Funny, I still remember and cherish the 1978 Bucky Dent game, Reuss vs. Nolan Ryan a couple years later. Braves vs. Giants in 1993. Sox fans remember fondly they blackout game in 2008. 

All of that was flushed down the toilet expanding playoffs from four division winners to the 12-16 team bullshit playoffs of the past few seasons. Could have a final few weeks that really matter in both AL divisions, and an assured battle of the titans between the Braves and Dodgers, clearly the two best teams. 

Interest in the sport is declining because of the greedy Reinsdorf money grub of claiming "meaningful September games", when nobody across the country gives a rats ass about this seeding musical chair bullshit. The 162 game season was called a championship season for a reason. Now it's garbage like the other three pro sports, and college basketball, allowing any team with a pulse to claim their playoff participation trophy, and downgrade the World Series to not a contest among the best over the long season, but a contest between who was hot and healthy over a couple weeks in October.

When seasons and championships mattered, baseball drew over 40 million viewers each game. Today, they get 10-12M with double the American population.

Your thinking is outdated but hopefully it doesn't get to the point where increased playoff spots means you really have to be bad to miss the offseason. 

Baseball is following what the NFL did.

This has become an interesting month for many teams and their fans.  I wouldn't want to change that.

 

11 hours ago, flavum said:

The Cubs are out with two weeks left, but they’re home vs Pirates and Rockies this week. 

Those are the dangerous games.   You also see teams looking to win a division losing to teams they normally beat.

20 hours ago, kitekrazy said:

Your thinking is outdated but hopefully it doesn't get to the point where increased playoff spots means you really have to be bad to miss the offseason. 

Baseball is following what the NFL did.

This has become an interesting month for many teams and their fans.  I wouldn't want to change that.

Wanting teams barely over .500 fight to negate an 162 game season for a couple weeks. It is nearly as sad and about as meaningless as the entire college basketball season at this stage. May as well make every season 60 games like 2020. A meaningless regular season with players getting 37 cents on the dollar. The Sox should play the Cubs 30 at home, 30 on the road, and let both make the playoffs as long as they are within 10 games of .500.

Europeans don't stand for this crap when it comes to their domestic leagues. One Champion, determined entirely within the season. Their Champions League could use reform, but they do it right in each country and will continue to do so as long as the absolute garbage American owners don't get their way and flush the integrity of the game down the toilet like they did here.

1969-1993 MLB Format (16 teams in each league, two eight team divisions post expansion):

  • 12 X 7 = 84 Intra-Division and 10 X 8 = 80 Inter-Division for 164 total games.
  • Opening Day = First Monday in April, Game 164 Last Sunday in September.
  • Division Ties = 1 Game Playoff Monday (Home Team = Team With Better Head to Head, second TB Better Intra-Division, third TB Better Run Differential).
  • League Championship Series 2-3-2 = (Wednesday & Thursday) - (Saturday, Sunday, Monday) - (Wednesday & Thursday).
  • LCS Weekday Game = 4 PM EDT / 1 PM PDT. LCS Weeknight Game = 8 PM EDT / 5 PM PDT.
  • LCS Early Weekend Game = 3 PM EDT / Noon PDT. LCS Late Weekend Game = 7 PM EDT / 4 PM PDT.
  • World Series 2-3-2 = (Saturday & Sunday) - (Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday) - (Saturday & Sunday).
  • World Series Weeknights = 8 PM EDT / 7 PM CDT / 5 PM PDT. World Series Weekend Games = 3 PM EDT / 2 PM / Noon PDT.
  • All Star Game the lone other interleague game. People will finally care about watching the ASG again and the WS again.

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Just need the Marlins to match the Cubs the final nine.

Cubs- vs Rockies, Braves, Brewers

Marlins- vs Brewers, Mets, Pirates

33 minutes ago, flavum said:

Just need the Marlins to match the Cubs the final nine.

Cubs- vs Rockies, Braves, Brewers

Marlins- vs Brewers, Mets, Pirates

Pitching match ups really favor the Cubs. They miss seeing Strider, Burnes and Woodruff.  Marlins get the three Brewers studs and Senga.

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