November 7, 20232 yr Bellinger feels like at least $125-150 million coming off a 2023 MVP votes type of season and possesses the ability to play two positions (especially CF) so well.
November 7, 20232 yr 14 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Bellinger feels like at least $125-150 million coming off a 2023 MVP votes type of season and possesses the ability to play two positions (especially CF) so well. He's not guaranteed to be fixed. Bellinger was really bad for like 2-3 seasons before last year. There's a lot of volatility there and he might get a 9 figure deal but I wouldn't offer him that. Just way too much risk.
November 7, 20232 yr Author Nice to hear Getz says “I don’t like our team”. Those words would have never have been said by the previous regime.
November 7, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, baseball_gal_aly said: He's not guaranteed to be fixed. Bellinger was really bad for like 2-3 seasons before last year. There's a lot of volatility there and he might get a 9 figure deal but I wouldn't offer him that. Just way too much risk. Let's take our mind off of being the White Sox for a moment and think about a team say...the Arizona Diamondbacks. 20th in OPS from their CF spot this year, 15th in OPS from their RF spot, 28th in OPS from their DH spot. One of their OFs, Lourdes Gurriel, is a free agent. They have playoff and WS revenue. Madison Bumgarner's contract is mercifully ending. They have Druw Jones in the minor leagues as a young OF, but he's down at A ball so he's several years away, no help next year. They don't want to take a step back. They have a middle of their order with Moreno and Walker in it, both of whom are righties. Is that a team that could, and perhaps should, be in the market for a $200+ million OF?
November 7, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Nice to hear Getz says “I don’t like our team”. Those words would have never have been said by the previous regime. Did he say that today - that is actually very refreshing to here. To be honest - outside of keeping Grifol, I can't really argue with much he has done since he took the job. I do recognize keeping Grifol is a huge component - but its also fair to wonder whether he had a choice in the matter anyway? I have never got the impression that JR wants to pay a mgr to not manage. Will he eventually - yes, but after one season, not unless it is an abjunct disaster (and yes '23 was a disaster - but isn't Bevington the only time he has done it in his era - thinking back to Bulls/Sox ownership)?
November 7, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Let's take our mind off of being the White Sox for a moment and think about a team say...the Arizona Diamondbacks. 20th in OPS from their CF spot this year, 15th in OPS from their RF spot, 28th in OPS from their DH spot. One of their OFs, Lourdes Gurriel, is a free agent. They have playoff and WS revenue. Madison Bumgarner's contract is mercifully ending. They have Druw Jones in the minor leagues as a young OF, but he's down at A ball so he's several years away, no help next year. They don't want to take a step back. They have a middle of their order with Moreno and Walker in it, both of whom are righties. Is that a team that could, and perhaps should, be in the market for a $200+ million OF? Send them Eloy
November 7, 20232 yr 8 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: Did he say that today - that is actually very refreshing to here. To be honest - outside of keeping Grifol, I can't really argue with much he has done since he took the job. I do recognize keeping Grifol is a huge component - but its also fair to wonder whether he had a choice in the matter anyway? I have never got the impression that JR wants to pay a mgr to not manage. Will he eventually - yes, but after one season, not unless it is an abjunct disaster (and yes '23 was a disaster - but isn't Bevington the only time he has done it in his era - thinking back to Bulls/Sox ownership)? He says it in this clip. It was good to hear because all of us don't like this team either CG.
November 7, 20232 yr 12 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: He says it in this clip. It was good to hear because all of us don't like this team either CG. Can’t wait to see a team that is last in homers next year. Sounds like they’re going to focus way too much on base running and defense.
November 7, 20232 yr Chris Getz in November: “I don’t like this team” Chris Getz in December, after trading for Salvador Perez and signing Whit Merrifield: ?
November 7, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, fathom said: Can’t wait to see a team that is last in homers next year. Sounds like they’re going to focus way too much on base running and defense. I mean if he can actually fix one of the chronic problems this team has had I’ll be intrigued.
November 7, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, bmags said: I mean if he can actually fix one of the chronic problems this team has had I’ll be intrigued. I don’t consider it necessarily fixing if it’s one-year stop gaps on a team that has no chance of contending. I’d much rather see what Popeye can do at 2nd than Lopez. If this team has DeJong, Lopez and Hedges all starting….god help us.
November 7, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, fathom said: I don’t consider it necessarily fixing if it’s one-year stop gaps on a team that has no chance of contending. I’d much rather see what Popeye can do at 2nd than Lopez. If this team has DeJong, Lopez and Hedges all starting….god help us. I mean none of it matters. There is no reason you can’t see what Popeye can do. Lopez will be lucky to get a major league deal.
November 7, 20232 yr 49 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: Did he say that today - that is actually very refreshing to here. To be honest - outside of keeping Grifol, I can't really argue with much he has done since he took the job. I do recognize keeping Grifol is a huge component - but its also fair to wonder whether he had a choice in the matter anyway? I have never got the impression that JR wants to pay a mgr to not manage. Will he eventually - yes, but after one season, not unless it is an abjunct disaster (and yes '23 was a disaster - but isn't Bevington the only time he has done it in his era - thinking back to Bulls/Sox ownership)? Bevington lasted two years as manager.
November 7, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: Let's take our mind off of being the White Sox for a moment and think about a team say...the Arizona Diamondbacks. 20th in OPS from their CF spot this year, 15th in OPS from their RF spot, 28th in OPS from their DH spot. One of their OFs, Lourdes Gurriel, is a free agent. They have playoff and WS revenue. Madison Bumgarner's contract is mercifully ending. They have Druw Jones in the minor leagues as a young OF, but he's down at A ball so he's several years away, no help next year. They don't want to take a step back. They have a middle of their order with Moreno and Walker in it, both of whom are righties. Is that a team that could, and perhaps should, be in the market for a $200+ million OF? You think Bellinger will get $200M? I'd be shocked. I have him around $125. It's not something I'd be comfortable with either.
November 7, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, baseball_gal_aly said: You think Bellinger will get $200M? I'd be shocked. I have him around $125. It's not something I'd be comfortable with either. He has the biggest market teams interested in him. He will get 8/200.
November 7, 20232 yr 57 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: He says it in this clip. It was good to hear because all of us don't like this team either CG. Love it.
November 7, 20232 yr I keep trying to think of how I would build the roster but whichever way I go kinda depends on what they think of Sosa and Colas. Like if they want to start either/both on the roster and just let them play or not. My prediction is they may not be high on either and may just sign a stop gap at both 2B (Adam Frazier) and SS (DeJong) (until Montgomery is MLB ready at SS).
November 7, 20232 yr 6 minutes ago, fathom said: He has the biggest market teams interested in him. He will get 8/200. I don't understand after one bounceback year after being absolute garbage for 3 years straight.
November 7, 20232 yr 1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said: I keep trying to think of how I would build the roster but whichever way I go kinda depends on what they think of Sosa and Colas. Like if they want to start either/both on the roster and just let them play or not. My prediction is they may not be high on either and may just sign a stop gap at both 2B (Adam Frazier) and SS (DeJong) (until Montgomery is MLB ready at SS). Nothing Getz has said makes me think Colas has a future with the team
November 7, 20232 yr 11 minutes ago, fathom said: I don’t consider it necessarily fixing if it’s one-year stop gaps on a team that has no chance of contending. I’d much rather see what Popeye can do at 2nd than Lopez. If this team has DeJong, Lopez and Hedges all starting….god help us. 2024 is the perfect opportunity to provide opportunities, and to grab a few Rule 5 picks and perhaps other prospects via trades, and hope a couple pan out without having to worry about contending. MLB Games Played / Player / 2024 Age Opening Day 2024 86 Romy Gonzalez 27 75 Oscar Colas 25 65 Gregory Santos 24 63 Lenyn Sosa 24 45 Luis Patino 24 34 Carlos Perez 27 Possibly Ready in 2024 36 Korey Lee 25 1 Jose Rodriguez 23 0 Nick Nastrini 24 0 Jake Eder 25 0 Yoelqui Cespedes 26 Goodbye: 296 Gavin Sheets 28 (-1.7 career bWAR)
November 8, 20232 yr 24 minutes ago, fathom said: Nothing Getz has said makes me think Colas has a future with the team I tend to agree.
November 8, 20232 yr 27 minutes ago, baseball_gal_aly said: I don't understand after one bounceback year after being absolute garbage for 3 years straight. This is the market for players that have performed at his level. The fact that he's a high-risk guy is why he's not getting a $300 million contract. This is another version of "why building your team through free agency, rather than through the draft, is very risky". Your hope with him is he gives you a couple seasons that are strong, and that puts you over the top. You cannot look at a guy like this and think "This is a long term piece I can build around", you have to think "This puts me over the top right now and that's why I will spend the money".
November 8, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Chisoxfn said: Did he say that today - that is actually very refreshing to here. To be honest - outside of keeping Grifol, I can't really argue with much he has done since he took the job. I do recognize keeping Grifol is a huge component - but its also fair to wonder whether he had a choice in the matter anyway? I have never got the impression that JR wants to pay a mgr to not manage. Will he eventually - yes, but after one season, not unless it is an abjunct disaster (and yes '23 was a disaster - but isn't Bevington the only time he has done it in his era - thinking back to Bulls/Sox ownership)? I feel like at this point Grifol is just a sacrificial lamb. It is obvious we aren't competing this year, so why fire a guy and have to pay him to bring someone else in so this team can still lose 100 games because of the roster construction?
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