November 18, 20232 yr 11 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: but I'm just confused as to why they ALL got tendered. Didn't Trayce Thompson and Clint Frasier already declare as free agents? Beyond that, I'm not sure what non-tendering Cease, Kopech, Crochet or Vaughn would accomplish.
November 18, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Current 40 Man Roster: 7/1/24 Age / Salary $740K each unless actual or estimate noted / Player / 2023 MLB Appearances (unless noted) Total Current MLB 26 Man Roster Salary ($104,283,000) Pitching Staff $23.370,000 $17.19M Five MLB Starters + 3 ML Pitchers (93 Total 2023 MLB Starts) $8.70M Dylan Cease (33 GS) $3.20M Michael Soroka (6 GS) $3.05M Michael Kopech (27 GS + 3 RA) $1.50M Touki Toussaint (16 GS + 4 RA) Jared Shuster (11 GS) Cristian Mena (27 Minor League Starts 4 AAA + 23 AA) Jake Elder (14 Minor League Starts 11 AA + 3 A) Davis Martin (Missed Season) $1.480M Swing Two MLB Pitchers Tanner Banks (3 GS + 29 RA) Jesse Scholtens (11 GS + 15 RA) $4.700M Six Additional MLB Relievers (Crochet + five more at the minimum salary) + 7 Additional ML Pitchers Gregory Santos (60) Jimmy Lambert (34 RA + 1 GS) $1.0M Garrett Crochet (33 RA) Yohan Ramirez (31) Lane Ramsey (21) Sammy Peralta (16) Declan Cronin (9) Luis Patino (8 RA + 1 GS) Deivi Garcia (8) Edgar Navarro (8) Nicholas Padilla (3) Alex Speas (3) Matt Foster (Missed Season) Position Players $80,913,000 $1.480M Catchers 2 MLB - 51 Total 2023 MLB Games Carlos Perez (27 G) Korey Lee (24) $33.780M Five MLB Infielders + 4 ML - 491 Total 2023 MLB Games $24.8M Yoan Moncada (92 G) $4.0M Nicky Lopez (94) $3.5M Andrew Vaughn (152) Zach Remillard (54) Lenyn Sosa (52) Romy Gonzalez (44) Braden Shewmake (2) Jose Rodriguez (1) Bryan Ramos (81 Minor League Games 77 AA + 4 A) $31.820M Five MLB Outfielders - 517 Total 2023 MLB Games $17.1M Andrew Benintendi (151 G) $12.5M Luis Robert Junior (145 G) Gavin Sheets (118 G) Oscar Colas (75 G) Adam Haseley (28 G) $13.833M Designated Hitter - 120 Total 2023 MLB Games Eloy Jimenez (120 G)
November 18, 20232 yr 49 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: So your team lost 101 games last season, not by design, and you tender every unsigned player on the 40-man a contract? I don't get that at all. I know people can be DFA'd and traded later, but I'm just confused as to why they ALL got tendered. This was expected. There’s just no reason to non-tender anyone. All the guys who they’d get rid of are pre-arb and can just be DFA later.
November 18, 20232 yr 52 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Could have non-tendered 5 guys and no one would have given a s%*#. There would have been rejoicing! Time for some churn even if everyone sucks.
November 18, 20232 yr 2 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: There would have been rejoicing! Time for some churn even if everyone sucks. Five more moves (Benintendi, Cease, Jimenez, Moncada and Robert Junior) would make Leury Garcia ($5.5M) and Nicky Lopez ($4.0M estimate) the two highest paid 2024 White Sox.
November 18, 20232 yr 45 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: This was expected. There’s just no reason to non-tender anyone. All the guys who they’d get rid of are pre-arb and can just be DFA later. I'd argue there's reason to non-tender them if they're bad. They don't need to have the roster spot. I get why they didn't because they didn't technically have to do it now, it just annoyed me more that it probably should've.
November 18, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, WestEddy said: Didn't Trayce Thompson and Clint Frasier already declare as free agents? Beyond that, I'm not sure what non-tendering Cease, Kopech, Crochet or Vaughn would accomplish. Who was advocating for those four to be non-tendered? My gripe was in regards to more than a handful of pre-arb guys, which yeah they didn't need to do now, but my counterpoint is that they stink so why keep them?
November 18, 20232 yr 26 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: I'd argue there's reason to non-tender them if they're bad. They don't need to have the roster spot. I get why they didn't because they didn't technically have to do it now, it just annoyed me more that it probably should've. Right. They’re going to add anyway so might as well boot some trash.
November 18, 20232 yr Go sign Woodruff to an incentive laden two year deal. I know shoulder injuries can be death blows, but given where we’re at it’s 100% worth a shot IMO.
November 18, 20232 yr 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: Go sign Woodruff to an incentive laden two year deal. I know shoulder injuries can be death blows, but given where we’re at it’s 100% worth a shot IMO. I feel like the Dodgers will be all over this
November 18, 20232 yr 48 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: I feel like the Dodgers will be all over this Or Padres. Feels like those orgs are always doing these type of deals.
November 18, 20232 yr 9 minutes ago, JoshPR said: Flyer on Senzel? He’s been bad for so long I just don’t see the point.
November 18, 20232 yr 23 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: He’s been bad for so long I just don’t see the point. And the Sox aren't exactly known for fixing swings. He'd be pretty pointless.
November 18, 20232 yr https://www.mlb.com/news/non-tendered-mlb-free-agents-2023-24 I'd take a shot with Hudson, Heuer, Bush, Senzel, Meadows and Turnbull Edited November 18, 20232 yr by Lip Man 1
November 18, 20232 yr The White Sox need one or two actual catchers this year, as Lee looked overwhelmed and Perez needs work. Any help the mostly AAA pitching staff can get from a good defensive catcher or two who can handle game management would be a big help. They really needed this the past three seasons after McCann left, but they had mostly veteran pitchers in the rotation and bullpen who could somewhat work around the deficiencies beyond the endless passed and dropped balls. Edited November 18, 20232 yr by South Side Hit Men
November 18, 20232 yr 17 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said: Cubs non-tendered Codi Heuer today. Time to bring Big Slim back into the fold... time for Katz to tap into that Heuer/Crochet magic in the pen!
November 18, 20232 yr Would go after Kyle Lewis...see if they could recapture his 2020 magic. Someone like Austin Nola or Stallings for at least half the catching duties. Nola's brother signs, too...haha. Edited November 18, 20232 yr by caulfield12
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