6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

The Hangout loves themselves some Povich.  I figured he must of had Randy Johnson like stuff before I read Tony’s scouting report on him based on the way many of the posters over there were clutching on him (not you or Frobby).

They love him because Elias has told them to love him because he made him a priority in the deal. 

There is no lack of lollipoppers and sheep on that site.  Great discussion and some really good posters who I enjoy interacting with but a lot of people who don’t think for themselves and allow what the Os to do to dictate their thoughts.

But it’s a fan site and you will get that anywhere. The enthusiasm is great but it’s just not grounded at times.

 

Edited December 30, 20232 yr by Sports Guy

3 minutes ago, Snopek said:

I love how there’s a Nick Madrigal side discussion going on in this thread

Why not?  The Cubs are deep in outfield prospects and Madrigal is available.  Covers our 2 biggest needs realistically.

1 minute ago, poppysox said:

Why not?  The Cubs are deep in outfield prospects and Madrigal is available.  Covers our 2 biggest needs realistically.

A lack of power and right handed hitting?

3 minutes ago, poppysox said:

Why not?  The Cubs are deep in outfield prospects and Madrigal is available.  Covers our 2 biggest needs realistically.

I agree with you on PCA being a target Getz could be interested in.  But explain to us why the Sox, who already dumped Madrigal once, would want him back again?  Especially when they already have damn near his clone in Nicky Lopez, who shouldn’t be a starting 2B for any major league team either?

Edited December 30, 20232 yr by WhiteSox2023

6 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

I figured his little arm couldn’t handle the throws.

You should see how many steps he takes before he throws.  He looks like an outfielder loading up to throw home.

Just now, WhiteSox2023 said:

I agree with you on PCA being a target Getz would be interested in.  But explain to us why the Sox, who already dumped Madrigal once, would want him back again?  Especially when they already have damn near his clone in Nicky Lopez, who shouldn’t be a starting 2B for any major league team either?

Especially when they hated his character and couldn’t wait to get rid of him

5 minutes ago, poppysox said:

Why not?  The Cubs are deep in outfield prospects and Madrigal is available.  Covers our 2 biggest needs realistically.

Well first of all, I highly doubt Cease is fetching a prospect rated as high as Crow-Armstrong. It’s just not likely at all.

Secondly, Madrigal doesn’t solve any need for anyone. You can get guys like Madrigal on the waiver wire all the time.

The Os could send you Ramon Urias, who won a GG at third in 2022 and can play all 4 IF positions. He has a little pop in his bat in his bat, will take a walk and was worth 2.7 fWAR in 2022.  But even if he was a player the WS got back, he doesn’t solve a need and he’s way better than Madrigal has been.

 

Edited December 30, 20232 yr by Sports Guy

Not sure if this is a hot take or not but I would rather have Jasson Dominguez over either Kjerstad or Cowser.

Three way trade. Sox get Madrigal and a Bill Ripken fuckface card. Cubs get Cease for the first half, O’s get him for the second half. GM’ing is easy.

Just now, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said:

Not sure if this is a hot take or not but I would rather have Jasson Dominguez over either Kjerstad or Cowser.

The Yankees aren’t going to trade him though.

Just now, Snopek said:

Three way trade. Sox get Madrigal and a Bill Ripken fuckface card. Cubs get Cease for the first half, O’s get him for the second half. GM’ing is easy.

Madrigal should have a f*** off card

Just now, Sports Guy said:

The Yankees aren’t going to trade him though.

How do you know that? If the rumor of the Yankees being aggressive is true, then it’s at least worth considering because I don’t know how they could get Cease without including him.

5 minutes ago, Snopek said:

Three way trade. Sox get Madrigal and a Bill Ripken fuckface card. Cubs get Cease for the first half, O’s get him for the second half. GM’ing is easy.

Man, I remember desperately trying to obtain that card when I was a kid.

Edited December 30, 20232 yr by WhiteSox2023

 

6 minutes ago, fathom said:

 

Getz is still likely asking for the moon.  But is it shocking that there is no trade market for our oft-injured no glove expensive DH?  The Sox need to throw away all of his outfielder gloves, tell him he’s a full-time DH whether he likes it or not, see if he can hit 20 homers by the deadline without tearing his ACL and MCL running to first base, and deal him as quickly as possible before he inevitable hits the injured list.

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2 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Getz is still likely asking for the moon.  But is it shocking that there is no trade market for our oft-injured no glove expensive DH?

I really don’t want them to trade Eloy. 

3 minutes ago, fathom said:

 

I wonder if Bob gets paid a commission on these deals.  If nothing else he should get a finder's fee.  

5 minutes ago, fathom said:

 

That because Getz is valuing him too high.

14 minutes ago, fathom said:

Especially when they hated his character and couldn’t wait to get rid of him

Other than running his mouth about getting 3000 hits or whatever, what character issues did Madrigal have here?

*puts an ear muff over @poppysox ears so he won't have to hear how his hero is even more of a joke than we thought*

6 minutes ago, fathom said:

I really don’t want them to trade Eloy. 

Especially when his value is virtually nothing

6 minutes ago, Sports Guy said:

That because Getz is valuing him too high.

No, he's not. 

5 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:

Other than running his mouth about getting 3000 hits or whatever, what character issues did Madrigal have here?

*puts an ear muff over @poppysox ears so he won't have to hear how his hero is even more of a joke than we thought*

Only 2,781 more hits to go!  What a ?.

https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/mlb/chicago-white-sox/sox-rib-nick-madrigal-with-mr-3000-t-shirts/168271/?amp=1

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11 minutes ago, fathom said:

 

Don’t mind holding out for Cease, have to maximize the return as much as possible, if the guys like Kjerstad aren’t on the table don’t move him, as much as other fanbases may not agree, Cease is a top of the rotation arm and should net the proper return. Not saying he’s Sale but he’s gonna be a Cy young candidate next season 

I like how we could be having some interesting conversations about Yankees prospects/trade proposals, yet we are locked onto the brain melting topic of Nick fucking Madrigal.

32 minutes ago, fathom said:

He was shockingly very good defensively at 3B

I mean he was a 0.9 fWAR player in less than a half season worth of ABs. A 1-2 fWAR player is a fringe starter even on playoff teams.