January 16, 20242 yr Author 53 minutes ago, Rolle Tide said: I don’t personally subscribe to BP or BA. Was Joey Ortiz in their previous top 101. I’m waiting to see MLBs updated list. Ortiz doesn’t appear to be in BP’s 2022 list. He was on BA’s mid-season list though in the 50’s or 60’s I believe.
January 16, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, SoCalChiSox said: Thanks for the info. Insist on Jones and Hampton until the last possible second and if we have to take Warren as the second piece, we should get a pretty good third piece. Nightengale made it seem like Sox wanted one of Jones or Hampton and Yanks wouldn’t include either
January 16, 20242 yr Just now, Y2Jimmy0 said: Nightengale made it seem like Sox wanted one of Jones or Hampton and Yanks wouldn’t include either I would decline if they only included one anyways.
January 16, 20242 yr 8 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I would decline if they only included one anyways. Well then I wouldn’t expect a deal to get done anywhere if those are your expectations
January 16, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Well then I wouldn’t expect a deal to get done anywhere if those are your expectations Yeah, then I have no problem holding him and taking that risk. A Hampton, Lombard and Vivas (hypotetically) type of trade doesn't do much for me.
January 16, 20242 yr 13 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Nightengale made it seem like Sox wanted one of Jones or Hampton and Yanks wouldn’t include either Eh...posturing or they aren't serious. Jones is non negotiable.
January 16, 20242 yr 6 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Eh...posturing or they aren't serious. Jones is non negotiable. I dont think it’s posturing. They signed Stroman instead. I think they’re done
January 16, 20242 yr Just now, Y2Jimmy0 said: I dont think it’s posturing. They signed Stroman instead. I think they’re done Good luck to them then. That rotation is Cole and a bunch of question marks.
January 16, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Good luck to them then. That rotation is Cole and a bunch of question marks. This is why it's looking more and more like a deadline deal. They'll be back, but desperate
January 16, 20242 yr 2 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I dont think it’s posturing. They signed Stroman instead. I think they’re done Eh Sherman thinks otherwise. But if they're done they're done. I'd rather take Cease to the deadline and take the risk than accept Westburg, Beavers and like McDermott.
January 16, 20242 yr 23 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Eh Sherman thinks otherwise. But if they're done they're done. I'd rather take Cease to the deadline and take the risk than accept Westburg, Beavers and like McDermott. Me too and I am a big Beavers fan Edited January 16, 20242 yr by Squirmin' for Yermin
January 16, 20242 yr 5 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Good luck to them then. That rotation is Cole and a bunch of question marks. How is Rodon a question mark? Sox nation was calling for the end of days when Jerry allowed him to walk away.
January 16, 20242 yr 8 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: How is Rodon a question mark? Sox nation was calling for the end of days when Jerry allowed him to walk away. Well... He was terrible last year, and shockingly hurt quite often. Also... we were made because we didn't offer him a QO, NOT because we let him walk away. Edited January 16, 20242 yr by Squirmin' for Yermin
January 16, 20242 yr 8 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: How is Rodon a question mark? Sox nation was calling for the end of days when Jerry allowed him to walk away. For the record, I do think he will bounce back. But injuries are always a factor with him. Cortes, Stroman, and Schmidt don’t do much of anything for me. That rotation is not that good.
January 16, 20242 yr 9 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: How is Rodon a question mark? Sox nation was calling for the end of days when Jerry allowed him to walk away. You're conflating a 160 million dollar deal and a mutually beneficial qualifying offer. Huge difference
January 16, 20242 yr 11 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Eh Sherman thinks otherwise. But if they're done they're done. I'd rather take Cease to the deadline and take the risk than accept Westburg, Beavers and like McDermott. I’m not sure Westburg, Beavers and McDermott would even be on the table at the deadline. Westburg could have a big first half and I expect Beavers and McDermott on midseason top 100
January 16, 20242 yr 7 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: How is Rodon a question mark? Sox nation was calling for the end of days when Jerry allowed him to walk away. That was two years ago. He and Cortes both have to be at 100% or they will be in a lot of trouble. Also shed King and Severino. Clark Schmidt no bueno...not for a serious contender. Or Stroman's second half. At one point, Jordan Montgomery wasn't even good enough for them to get a single post season start. That feels like ages ago.
January 16, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I’m not sure Westburg, Beavers and McDermott would even be on the table at the deadline. Westburg could have a big first half and I expect Beavers and McDermott on midseason top 100 McDermott with his age and control issues on any top 100 list would be shocking (unless there's drastic improvement).
January 16, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I’m not sure Westburg, Beavers and McDermott would even be on the table at the deadline. Westburg could have a big first half and I expect Beavers and McDermott on midseason top 100 Or he could go sideways and start to become as much a suspect as a prospect...ala Madrigal.
January 16, 20242 yr So many of the Orioles prospects “in play” are 24-25 years old. I’d much rather the Sox go for high ceiling guys like Arias (NYY) than these older prospects. I understand the injuries and COVID year restrictions as well (since I’m sure the hangout will argue that).
January 16, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, Rolle Tide said: I don’t personally subscribe to BP or BA. Was Joey Ortiz in their previous top 101. I’m waiting to see MLBs updated list. Ok, we’ll talk again in a couple weeks when Nicky Ortiz drops in MLB pipeline’s updated list too…
January 16, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, fathom said: So many of the Orioles prospects “in play” are 24-25 years old. I’d much rather the Sox go for high ceiling guys like Arias (NYY) than these older prospects. I understand the injuries and COVID year restrictions as well (since I’m sure the hangout will argue that). ?
January 16, 20242 yr 18 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I’m not sure Westburg, Beavers and McDermott would even be on the table at the deadline. Westburg could have a big first half and I expect Beavers and McDermott on midseason top 100 If he doesn't get moved by ST, he doesn't get moved by ST, Jimmy. If we get to the deadline and Cease is having a reasonably good season, it doesn't really matter what BAL wants to offer, pitching will be in extreme demand regardless. Actually I think it's in extreme demand now and I'm fine with Getz calling peoples bluffs if they are going to offer one piece plus a couple meh prospects. It's not worth it and I don't care whether they are bluffing or not. I fully support Getz saying no to one piece plus whatever. Harold is correct here. Getz drew a line in the sand at 2 impact prospects. Either meet it or not. Edited January 16, 20242 yr by SoCalChiSox
January 16, 20242 yr There’s added pressure to Getz here, being the new guy amongst GM’s. If he relents and accepts less than what he made clear he would be willing to accept, it sets a precedent/reputation - fair or not - that he can be waited out in negotiations.
January 16, 20242 yr 19 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: If he doesn't get moved by ST, he doesn't get moved by ST, Jimmy. If we get to the deadline and Cease is having a reasonably good season, it doesn't really matter what BAL wants to offer, pitching will be in extreme demand regardless. Actually I think it's in extreme demand now and I'm fine with Getz calling peoples bluffs if they are going to offer one piece plus a couple meh prospects. It's not worth it and I don't care whether they are bluffing or not. I fully support Getz saying no to one piece plus whatever. Harold is correct here. Getz drew a line in the sand at 2 impact prospects. Either meet it or not. He’s playing with fire. Hope he’s right
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