7 hours ago, WestEddy said:

But what is it? Did he not develop the relationships, or just shitty at scouting talent? (Or we just can't develop talent that raw...?)

Seems to be everything really, from who they target, glaring lack of development, leaving $ on the table in multiple classes. Their strategy of throwing the majority of the pool $ at "advanced" Cuban players didn't work, and we know they don't play in the deep end for the high end teenage talent either. I will say that Paddy definitely helped bring the department back from the depths of hell post-scandal. 

It’s really sad how we haven’t developed a key player since Ordonez and Lee. No other organization in the last 20 plus years comes close to it except maybe Baltimore but that has changed quickly in such short period with Elias putting the resources in the international spending and development. 

 

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Zach Franklin is a righthanded reliever in the White Sox system with a low-three quarters, almost sidearm slot, creating a difficult plane of approach for hitters to get flush barrel contact against. He has worked exclusively out of the Winston-Salem bullpen this season and has generated a ton of whiffs against his fastball. The pitch matches above-average vertical break from a 69.7 inch release height with a high rate of spin efficiency. These elements combined with mid-90s velocity allow the pitch to really play up. 

Didn’t know where to put this, but since the 4th of July (80 PA sample) Bryan Ramos has been on fire:

• 133 wRC+ | 12.5% BB rate | 15.0% K rate | .258 ISO | .280 BABIP

Kid doesn’t turn 23 until next March.  This minor league season has been incredibly tough on the positional side, but it’s probably important to remind ourselves that him and Montgomery are super young for AAA and could in theory do another full season there and still reach the majors as fresh 24 year old’s.

The Sox have signed Canaan Smith-Njigba to a minor league deal.

2 hours ago, Credepopsup said:

The Sox have signed Canaan Smith-Njigba to a minor league deal.

Some here really wanted him at the beginning of the season. 

My guy!

 

Elko's college numbers, while not at Vaughn's 1200-1300 OPS level, were certainly the equal of early round picks Burger and  Sheets.  That he Elko was drafted so low suggests that there was something "missing" (bat speed?  just guessing).  Any idea whether what was missing has been found and whether he's a legit prospect or a AAAA guy?

1 hour ago, GreenSox said:

Elko's college numbers, while not at Vaughn's 1200-1300 OPS level, were certainly the equal of early round picks Burger and  Sheets.  That he Elko was drafted so low suggests that there was something "missing" (bat speed?  just guessing).  Any idea whether what was missing has been found and whether he's a legit prospect or a AAAA guy?

He was drafted low because he was hurt and came back as a senior. Was like 23 already on draft day. 

1 hour ago, GreenSox said:

Elko's college numbers, while not at Vaughn's 1200-1300 OPS level, were certainly the equal of early round picks Burger and  Sheets.  That he Elko was drafted so low suggests that there was something "missing" (bat speed?  just guessing).  Any idea whether what was missing has been found and whether he's a legit prospect or a AAAA guy?

Guess we will find out next year? At least I hope.

3 hours ago, GreenSox said:

Elko's college numbers, while not at Vaughn's 1200-1300 OPS level, were certainly the equal of early round picks Burger and  Sheets.  That he Elko was drafted so low suggests that there was something "missing" (bat speed?  just guessing).  Any idea whether what was missing has been found and whether he's a legit prospect or a AAAA guy?

Because all college stats aren't equal.  Age, school, conference etc matter, as well as advanced metrics of what they are hitting. 

32 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Because all college stats aren't equal.  Age, school, conference etc matter, as well as advanced metrics of what they are hitting. 

Elko also had a severe knee injury

Excellent thread on Quero below. I recommend reading it in full, but the main takeaways:

• He's made a swing adjustment to lift and pull more, leading to both better results (HR, SLG) and also underlying metrics (EV, HH%, HR/FB%)
• He's producing as well as he has despite being younger than the opposing pitcher for a ridiculous 98.5% of his pro ABs

On 8/10/2024 at 8:48 AM, Credepopsup said:

The Sox have signed Canaan Smith-Njigba to a minor league deal.

I knew @WhiteSox2023 was Chris Getz all along!

Mason Adams heads to the 7 day IL after leaving his AAA debut early

Canaan Smith-Njigba joins the Barons roster.

On 6/26/2024 at 8:06 PM, SoCalChiSox said:

https://x.com/HotStoveintel/status/1805876001903083953?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

mlbexecutiveburner says now that Skenes graduated Noah Schultz is top pitching prospect in baseball and it's not even close.

Noah Schultz	LHP		2025	21	6' 9" / 220 lbs	L	L
2	Colson Montgomery	SS		2024	22	6' 3" / 225 lbs	L	R
3	Hagen Smith	LHP		2025	20	6' 3" / 225 lbs	L	L
4	Edgar Quero	C		2025	21	5' 10" / 210 lbs	S	R
5	Jairo Iriarte	RHP		2024	22	6' 2" / 160 lbs	R	R
6	Grant Taylor	RHP		2027	22	6' 3" / 230 lbs	R	R
7	George Wolkow	OF		2027	18	6' 7" / 239 lbs	L	R
8	Brooks Baldwin	2B/SS		2024	23	6' 0" / 175 lbs	S	R
9	Mason Adams	RHP		2025	24	6' 0" / 200 lbs	R	R
10	Ky Bush	LHP		2024	24	6' 6" / 250 lbs	L	L
11	Caleb Bonemer	SS/3B		2028	18	6' 1" / 195 lbs	R	R
12	Jacob Gonzalez	SS/2B		2026	22	6' 2" / 200 lbs	L	R
13	Bryan Ramos	3B		2024	22	6' 2" / 225 lbs	R	R
14	Jeral Perez	2B		2027	19	6' 0" / 179 lbs	R	R
15	Alexander Albertus	INF		2027	19	6' 1" / 176 lbs	R	R
16	William Bergolla	2B/SS		2026	19	5' 9" / 165 lbs	L	R
17	Samuel Zavala	OF		2025	20	6' 1" / 175 lbs	L	L
18	Nick Nastrini	RHP		2024	24	6' 3" / 215 lbs	R	R
19	Blake Larson	LHP		2028	18	6' 2" / 180 lbs	L	L
20	Tyler Schweitzer	LHP		2025	23	6' 0" / 185 lbs	L	L
21	Seth Keener	RHP		2026	22	6' 2" / 195 lbs	R	R
22	Aldrin Batista	RHP		2027	21	6' 2" / 185 lbs	R	R
23	Jake Eder	LHP		2025	25	6' 4" / 215 lbs	L	L
24	Nick McLain	OF		2027	21	5' 10" / 190 lbs	S	L
25	Casey Saucke	OF		2027	21	6' 3" / 210 lbs	R	R
26	Wilfred Veras	OF		2025	21	6' 2" / 180 lbs	R	R
27	Juan Carela	RHP		2025	22	6' 3" / 186 lbs	R	R
28	Peyton Pallette	RHP		2026	23	6' 1" / 180 lbs	R	R
29	Tanner McDougal	RHP		2026	21	6' 5" / 185 lbs	R	R
30	Sean Burke	RHP		2025	24	6' 6" / 230 lbs	R

New mlb.com Pipeline updated.  Top 30

Bro, what did you copy?

21 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Bro, what did you copy?

Obviously not Baseball America.

It’s 100% freely accessible to anyone in the world who can point their keys to mlb.com and click on Pipeline updated Top 30s/Top 100.

On 8/13/2024 at 12:54 AM, Quin said:

I knew @WhiteSox2023 was Chris Getz all along!

Yes!!!  I got ripped for saying the Sox should claim the guy since he was DFA a couple times and sucked in the minors this year.  But I guess he won’t cost a 40-man roster spot now.  Either way, he was pretty good before this year and is still somewhat young.  He’s actually 8 months younger than Zach DeLoach.  Worth a try.

Edited August 14, 20241 yr by WhiteSox2023

1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said:

Bro, what did you copy?

I’m tripping balls looking at caufield’s post.

Anyone else think Quero should be ranked higher than Montgomery at this point?  .400 OBP as a catcher that hits for average and power?

Edited August 14, 20241 yr by WhiteSox2023

23 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I’m tripping balls looking at caufield’s post.

Anyone else think Quero should be ranked higher than Montgomery at this point?  .400 OBP as a catcher that hits for average and power?

Yes

39 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I’m tripping balls looking at caufield’s post.

Anyone else think Quero should be ranked higher than Montgomery at this point?  .400 OBP as a catcher that hits for average and power?

I am curious how much the back is still bothering Monty.  If that is the reason he can't hit fastballs, he is a totally different prospect if he is a guy who just can't hit fastballs.