Bob Sacamano Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 39 minutes ago, oldsox said: Fedde signed a 2-year deal, so there is value there. Value for Sox, that is. Yeah, there’s definitely value in that second year at $7.5M for a team looking to trade. Look at what other back-end type free agents got just this past offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 26 minutes ago, Snopek said: For me, it’s hoping that: 1) Player development will improve enough where you have waves of talent supplementing the major league roster instead of relying on the same few players to stay healthy and blossom into superstars year after year. 2) The money that JR does allow to be spent will be allocated better aka not spending 50 trillion dollars on the bullpen. If Getz can convince ownership to bring in one less crappy bench player/ reliever per year and spend that money on player development, scouting, drafting, and the minors in general, Getz is already a better GM than Hahn. The problem is Getz seems to be perfectly willing to waste money on pointless players as he keeps turning over an awful roster, so I don't have a lot of hope. A perfect example is wasting a one year deal on Shaw. That $1.5 million could have fed minor leaguers, hired scouts, and/or more modern development programming. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, oldsox said: Fedde signed a 2-year deal, so there is value there. Value for Sox, that is. There is value to the Sox, but the reality is he is more valuable to a team in the midst of a post-season run and we can always sign a veteran next offseason to the fill void. If you can get a nice prospect or two for him at the deadline, you definitely do it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 Realistically we are likely looking at a rotation like this next year: Crochet Nastrini Thorpe Cannon Eder/Iriarte/FA I just don’t see a need for Fedde unless no one is willing to pay up for him at the deadline. If not, he’s a quality, cheap depth option to push the young kids next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 20 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Realistically we are likely looking at a rotation like this next year: Crochet Nastrini Thorpe Cannon Eder/Iriarte/FA I just don’t see a need for Fedde unless no one is willing to pay up for him at the deadline. If not, he’s a quality, cheap depth option to push the young kids next year. Don't forget Clevinger unless some other team decides to actually sign him next off season before the Sox do. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 33 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: There is value to the Sox, but the reality is he is more valuable to a team in the midst of a post-season run and we can always sign a veteran next offseason to the fill void. If you can get a nice prospect or two for him at the deadline, you definitely do it. Yeah, if he is anywhere near a mid rotation type of starter, teams will pay up for him. All you have to do is look at what pitching was sold for at the last deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Yeah, if he is anywhere near a mid rotation type of starter, teams will pay up for him. All you have to do is look at what pitching was sold for at the last deadline. Just look at the deals the Sox made. Giolito and one of, if not, the worst pitcher in baseball brought back good offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 37 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Yeah, if he is anywhere near a mid rotation type of starter, teams will pay up for him. All you have to do is look at what pitching was sold for at the last deadline. ...unless it's Mike Clevinger, apparently. But yes - all Fedde has to do is prove himself to be a solid #4, and he'll be well worth the signing for the return we'll get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 12 minutes ago, JoeC said: ...unless it's Mike Clevinger, apparently. But yes - all Fedde has to do is prove himself to be a solid #4, and he'll be well worth the signing for the return we'll get Assuming they don't have the Clevinger baggage, sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 18 hours ago, ScootsMcGoots said: At what point do we stop rooting for actual competitive players to be traded away for prospects that may or may not work out, and start actually rooting for winning baseball? Like I understand the rationale behind it, but we already did this once. Under the same ownership. It did not work. I guess people think this is the only hope this team has but, if Jerry didn't let it be successful the first time, why the hell would he let it be successful the second time? 2026, but 2027 more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Assuming they don't have the Clevinger baggage, sure. Clevenger had other issues then the scandalous baggage last year. This year if he pitches well and there are enough teams with hope and he is a 4.0 ERA guy he could net something decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 1 hour ago, Harry Chappas said: Clevenger had other issues then the scandalous baggage last year. This year if he pitches well and there are enough teams with hope and he is a 4.0 ERA guy he could net something decent. I frankly doubt it. Plenty of teams could have used Clevinger going into the season and know what he's capable of. And if he's toast, it's a minor league contract, no major loss. Re-signing him was the stupidest thing Getz has done, mostly from a moral standpoint but also from a baseball perspective too. There are about 10 pitchers in the organization that I'd rather see develop than watch Clevinger's old slimy ass net the Sox 2 extra wins in a 120 loss season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 2 hours ago, Harry Chappas said: Clevenger had other issues then the scandalous baggage last year. This year if he pitches well and there are enough teams with hope and he is a 4.0 ERA guy he could net something decent. He already had a season to "prove" himself and he was still essentially unwanted this offseason. Not sure what changes, but if we are going to have him, hopefully we get something for him this time, but I wouldn't count on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 They betta trade Fedde cuz the dude's value is gonna tank soona ratha than lata. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 15 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Realistically we are likely looking at a rotation like this next year: Crochet Nastrini Thorpe Cannon Eder/Iriarte/FA I just don’t see a need for Fedde unless no one is willing to pay up for him at the deadline. If not, he’s a quality, cheap depth option to push the young kids next year. We can't fall victim into believing that all of Nastini, Cannon, Thorpe, etc. are going to be hits. I'm totally fine with trading Fedde if a competitor offers a decent package, but the Sox need some sort of veteran presence that can give you 150+ innings. Let the arms force their way in, and keep amassing as much depth as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Nice job by Fedde so far. Hopefully he just stays focused on himself and ends up on a contender in a few months. We should accumulate as much young talent as possible. My hope is a huge package of prospects for Robert, Fedde, and Wilson. It really could be a difference making trio of players that give you a shot in an LCS and World Series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 24 minutes ago, flavum said: Nice job by Fedde so far. Hopefully he just stays focused on himself and ends up on a contender in a few months. We should accumulate as much young talent as possible. My hope is a huge package of prospects for Robert, Fedde, and Wilson. It really could be a difference making trio of players that give you a shot in an LCS and World Series. Modern day White Flag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 On 4/19/2024 at 9:15 PM, WhiteSox2023 said: They betta trade Fedde cuz the dude's value is gonna tank soona ratha than lata. You keep saying this but why? Have you actually watched him pitch? He’s impressed me all season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 On 4/20/2024 at 12:43 AM, CWSpalehoseCWS said: We can't fall victim into believing that all of Nastini, Cannon, Thorpe, etc. are going to be hits. I'm totally fine with trading Fedde if a competitor offers a decent package, but the Sox need some sort of veteran presence that can give you 150+ innings. Let the arms force their way in, and keep amassing as much depth as possible. No doubt, but you have to give them a chance to fail before you go out and purposely block them. Again, I’m not against having a veteran in the mix (we probably should), but if Fedde can return a legit positional prospect at the deadline that can help soon, then you make the trade and sign a vet in FA next offseason if necessary. Given where we’re at, he’s more valuable to a playoff contender than he is to us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Modern day White Flag. That’s the only flag this team has to raise. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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