Lip Man 1 Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 This was in the Athletic today. I guess JR won't be paying much to the state in terms of rent again this season: "You might not be surprised to find out the team could also be heading to its worst attendance numbers since moving into “New Comiskey.” In 1999, the Sox drew just 1,338,851 at home. (They had only 80 home games that year.) That’s an average of 16,736. This year, they’re at 837,000 through 51 home games, which gives them a 16,412 average. The average is a bit misleading as they’ve played three doubleheaders, which only count as one gate, but also we’re counting paid admission, not actual butts in seats, so it’s kind of a wash." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 Boggles my mind seeing sox fans continue to give their money to Reinsdorf after all the middle fingers he has shown us over the years. We should be averaging under 7k. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 (edited) Sox are doing a little bit better than 16,300 a home date and they should improve on these figures with home games against the Cubs and Yankees coming up. Edited July 16, 2024 by The Mighty Mite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted July 16, 2024 Share Posted July 16, 2024 (edited) Those Oakland numbers.... yikes. Went to a Sox-A's game last year in Oakland, and I've been to more crowded parking lots at Class A ballgames. Edited July 16, 2024 by JoeC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 26 Share Posted July 26 White Sox will be over 18,000 per game after this Cubs' series...with roughly 30 home games left to go. Last year, finished at around 17,900. Same finish at 27th likely unless they could catch Pittsburgh somehow. Pretty big jump to KC and Minnesota from there. But attendance seems to have stabilized. Of course, two teams below are the Marlins and two teams playing in minor league facilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Hitmen Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 On 7/16/2024 at 4:48 PM, JoeC said: Those Oakland numbers.... yikes. Went to a Sox-A's game last year in Oakland, and I've been to more crowded parking lots at Class A ballgames. And to be clear, it's not because of the lower seating capacity in Sacramento. The A's aren't even close to selling out their minor league park. Here's one look at the problems they're having there. https://sportsepreneur.com/oakland-athletics-sacramento-las-vegas-as-disaster/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaDoc Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 The table above was 2024 not 2025 attendance. For those looking for 2025 MLB Attendance Report - 2025 Year: 2025202420232022202120202019201820172016201520142013201220112010200920082007200620052004200320022001 Stadium: Select One Arizona - nullAthletics - nullAtlanta - nullBaltimore - nullBoston - nullChicago Cubs - nullChicago White Sox - nullCincinnati - nullCleveland - nullColorado - nullDetroit - nullHouston - nullKansas City - nullLA Angels - nullLA Dodgers - nullMiami - nullMilwaukee - nullMinnesota - nullNY Mets - nullNY Yankees - nullPhiladelphia - nullPittsburgh - nullSan Diego - nullSan Francisco - nullSeattle - nullSt. Louis - nullTampa Bay - nullTexas - nullToronto - Rogers CentreWashington - null Attendance Top Games Beane Count Closers Cy Predictor Streaks Managers Debuts Park Factors Homers 2025 Attendance Home Road Overall RK TEAM GMS TOTAL AVG PCT GMS AVG PCT GMS AVG PCT 1 LA Dodgers 56 2,810,739 50,191 0.0 49 36,971 0.0 105 44,022 0.0 2 NY Yankees 50 2,141,293 42,825 0.0 53 30,982 0.0 103 36,731 0.0 3 San Diego 49 2,073,625 42,318 0.0 56 31,260 0.0 105 36,421 0.0 4 Philadelphia 52 2,170,214 41,734 0.0 52 29,439 0.0 104 35,587 0.0 5 NY Mets 53 2,068,430 39,026 0.0 52 31,215 0.0 105 35,158 0.0 6 Chicago Cubs 52 1,938,974 37,287 0.0 52 33,813 0.0 104 35,550 0.0 7 Atlanta 52 1,922,636 36,973 0.0 51 29,912 0.0 103 33,477 0.0 8 San Francisco 50 1,803,257 36,065 0.0 54 30,870 0.0 104 33,367 0.0 9 Boston 54 1,797,299 33,283 0.0 52 30,466 0.0 106 31,901 0.0 10 Houston 55 1,823,918 33,162 0.0 50 24,314 0.0 105 28,948 0.0 11 LA Angels 50 1,621,547 32,430 0.0 55 29,787 0.0 105 31,046 0.0 12 Toronto 54 1,729,019 32,018 0.0 50 27,579 0.0 104 29,884 0.0 13 Colorado 51 1,549,023 30,373 0.0 51 30,131 0.0 102 30,252 0.0 14 Milwaukee 52 1,574,100 30,271 0.0 52 28,116 0.0 104 29,194 0.0 15 Arizona 54 1,624,685 30,086 0.0 51 31,283 0.0 105 30,667 0.0 16 Texas 53 1,578,364 29,780 0.0 52 26,467 0.0 105 28,139 0.0 17 St. Louis 52 1,529,418 29,411 0.0 52 28,597 0.0 104 29,004 0.0 18 Detroit 53 1,536,424 28,989 0.0 52 25,117 0.0 105 27,071 0.0 19 Seattle 52 1,501,382 28,872 0.0 53 29,749 0.0 105 29,315 0.0 20 Cincinnati 51 1,292,138 25,336 0.0 53 29,188 0.0 104 27,299 0.0 21 Washington 51 1,286,361 25,222 0.0 52 28,562 0.0 103 26,908 0.0 22 Cleveland 50 1,247,459 24,949 0.0 52 29,170 0.0 102 27,101 0.0 23 Baltimore 48 1,124,040 23,417 0.0 55 24,275 0.0 103 23,875 0.0 24 Kansas City 51 1,160,087 22,746 0.0 53 27,559 0.0 104 25,199 0.0 25 Minnesota 49 1,092,044 22,286 0.0 53 25,665 0.0 102 24,042 0.0 26 Pittsburgh 55 1,057,689 19,230 0.0 50 30,625 0.0 105 24,656 0.0 27 Chicago White Sox 50 880,164 17,603 0.0 53 28,645 0.0 103 23,284 0.0 28 Miami 53 634,664 11,974 0.0 50 29,636 0.0 103 20,548 0.0 29 Tampa Bay 59 581,603 9,857 0.0 46 29,092 0.0 105 18,284 0.0 30 Athletics 51 498,867 9,781 0.0 56 28,711 0.0 107 19,688 0.0 *In recent years most cases of doubleheaders are split/day-night doubleheaders which means they have two gates/separate attendance figures. In these cases above they are true doubleheaders with only one attendance number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaDoc Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 1 hour ago, 77 Hitmen said: And to be clear, it's not because of the lower seating capacity in Sacramento. The A's aren't even close to selling out their minor league park. Here's one look at the problems they're having there. https://sportsepreneur.com/oakland-athletics-sacramento-las-vegas-as-disaster/ Dang. Could he be worse than Jerry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 On 7/16/2024 at 11:25 AM, reiks12 said: Boggles my mind seeing sox fans continue to give their money to Reinsdorf after all the middle fingers he has shown us over the years. We should be averaging under 7k. Why? Plenty of people just enjoy baseball not to mention all the Sox fans that don’t care if they are good or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 9 minutes ago, T R U said: Why? Plenty of people just enjoy baseball not to mention all the Sox fans that don’t care if they are good or not. Last year was not baseball 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 10 minutes ago, fathom said: Last year was not baseball Not to you and me, there’s plenty of people that go to games just happy to be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 8 minutes ago, T R U said: Not to you and me, there’s plenty of people that go to games just happy to be there. I know people like that, and they refused to go last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 2 hours ago, T R U said: Not to you and me, there’s plenty of people that go to games just happy to be there. I'm one of them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 27 Author Share Posted July 27 10 minutes ago, WBWSF said: I'm one of them. And JR thanks you for your patronage 😉! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Hitmen Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 3 hours ago, BamaDoc said: Dang. Could he be worse than Jerry? It's always been rumored that Jerry thinks it's best to finish 2nd. Maybe that includes 2nd worst? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Hitmen Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 (edited) 23 hours ago, caulfield12 said: White Sox will be over 18,000 per game after this Cubs' series...with roughly 30 home games left to go. Last year, finished at around 17,900. Same finish at 27th likely unless they could catch Pittsburgh somehow. Pretty big jump to KC and Minnesota from there. But attendance seems to have stabilized. Of course, two teams below are the Marlins and two teams playing in minor league facilities. It's encouraging that our attendance isn't even worse and has stabilized despite the team losing 121 games last year and working on their 3rd year in a row with over 100 losses plus sharing the city with the resurgent Cubs. But, as you said, the only teams worse are Miami (who has serious attendance problems) and the 2 teams playing in minor league stadiums. But if the team ever wants to rid itself of anemic attendance, it'll have to be after Ishbia takes over and hopefully rebuilds this organization into one that is consistently competitive and perhaps also has a new stadium (which he would have to pay for) and location that is a better draw than what we've seen at Rate Field over the years. Even after the 93-win division title team in 2021, the team barely broke the 2 million mark the following season. Other than 2022, the Sox haven't broken 2M in attendance since 2011 when the last of that World Series title bump faded away. Edited July 27 by 77 Hitmen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champagne030 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 (edited) It’s season tickets. I can sell mine because they’re great tickets (at least come close to breaking even). I go to one game a year for the last 4 years, but not giving them up for the chance we are ever good again. I know shame on me, but have had the tickets for almost 30 years. Edited July 28 by champagne030 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 2 hours ago, champagne030 said: It’s season tickets. I can sell mine because they’re great tickets (at least come close to breaking even). I go to one game a year for the last 4 years, but not giving them up for the chance we are ever good again. I know shame on me, but have had the tickets for almost 30 years. I don't see anything wrong with that. I have a 20 game plan that I go to the vast majority of games with my 76 yr old father. I'm not gonna let my hatred for Jerry take away from spending quality time with my Dad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 On 7/16/2024 at 11:25 AM, reiks12 said: Boggles my mind seeing sox fans continue to give their money to Reinsdorf after all the middle fingers he has shown us over the years. We should be averaging under 7k. The team is light years better than last year's abomination but I hear your point. I was talking to a diehard Sox fan of many decades this week and I asked him if he would go to a game this seasons if he got free tix and he said no. Total diehard fan. Said it's not worth the risk of having a terrible time in a blowout. ... By the way, I don't care what anybody says, Beni is a good hitter. I mean the Royals started Pham in the playoffs last year. Pham is nowhere near as good a hitter as Beni. I know his BA still is under .240 but nobody cares about BA. Beni can hit folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 6 hours ago, greg775 said: The team is light years better than last year's abomination but I hear your point. I was talking to a diehard Sox fan of many decades this week and I asked him if he would go to a game this seasons if he got free tix and he said no. Total diehard fan. Said it's not worth the risk of having a terrible time in a blowout. ... By the way, I don't care what anybody says, Beni is a good hitter. I mean the Royals started Pham in the playoffs last year. Pham is nowhere near as good a hitter as Beni. I know his BA still is under .240 but nobody cares about BA. Beni can hit folks. And if the White Sox tried to trade him this week, they would still need to include another $12-15 million…at a minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: And if the White Sox tried to trade him this week, they would still need to include another $12-15 million…at a minimum. 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: And if the White Sox tried to trade him this week, they would still need to include another $12-15 million…at a minimum. I hope he is not traded. Who would replace him in the lineup, Michael Taylor? If Beni gets traded it would simply be a salary dump and we wouldn't get anything in return for him. 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: And if the White Sox tried to trade him this week, they would still need to include another $12-15 million…at a minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77 Hitmen Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 I'm not going to scold my fellow Sox fans about whether they're going to too many or too few games. Everyone has their own personal choices to make even if a vast majority of us hate the current owner and nobody was happy with 121 losses last year. Anyway, one person boycotting the Sox isn't going to suddenly make Jerry see the light after he's been running this team this way for decades. Even when things were going well with the Sox, I never shamed anyone for not going to enough games because it's none of my business and they might have very good reasons for not going more often (financial, family issues, other commitments, etc.). Whatever it was, none of my business. I just hope the fans come back when (someday) the Sox are good again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Paying players not to play for the team and yet holding on to Grifol way too long. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 56 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: Paying players not to play for the team and yet holding on to Grifol way too long. Interesting. They paid a year and a half of Grifols contract for him to go away. Yea we all wanted him gone on day 1 but let’s be real and don’t forget that they were also paying TLR salary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 32 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: They paid a year and a half of Grifols contract for him to go away. Yea we all wanted him gone on day 1 but let’s be real and don’t forget that they were also paying TLR salary Considering he is still a part of this organization, they are probably STILL paying Tony. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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