It's quite simple. 

Hold Crochet (extension) and sign Roki Sasaki for whatever it takes. Hold Robert until trade value is maxxed out down the line. 

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/roki-sasaki-update-mlb-executives-planning-for-npb-ace-to-be-posted-this-offseason-per-report/

That gives you Sasaki Crochet Smith Thorpe and a long list of contenders for #5.  Best rotation in the majors. 

Back end Cannon Iriarte G.Taylor Berroa Eder Bush... throw every young pitcher out there like the Sox did in the late 90s to unearth the next Buehrle over the following two seasons...if it's not already there in the form of Thorpe. 

Pray for a Montgomery return to health. Wolkow debut in 2026/27. Quero sticks as league average C.  Have to dump Benintendi just for the sake of youngsters as a poor dead man walking role model. Get ONE league average starter out of Sosa/Gonzalez/Baldwin/Ramos.

Need to fight like hell to get fWAR for bullpen defense and offense to at least around #18-22 in the majors.   

Obviously hit on all the trades this DDL. Finally move on from Shields and Vaughn. 

Easy peazy. Breezy. Etc. 

Edited July 26, 20241 yr by caulfield12

Better find a genie in a fucking bottle, otherwise there’s no chance.

5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

It's quite simple. 

Hold Crochet (extension) and sign Roki Sasaki for whatever it takes. Hold Robert until trade value is maxxed out down the line. 

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/roki-sasaki-update-mlb-executives-planning-for-npb-ace-to-be-posted-this-offseason-per-report/

That gives you Sasaki Crochet Smith Thorpe and a long list of contenders for #5.  Best rotation in the majors. 

Back end Cannon Iriarte G.Taylor Berroa Eder Bush... throw every young pitcher out there like the Sox did in the late 90s to unearth the next Buehrle over the following two seasons...if it's not already there in the form of Thorpe. 

Pray for a Montgomery return to health. Wolkow debut in 2026/27. Quero sticks as league average C.  Have to dump Benintendi just for the sake of youngsters as a poor dead man walking role model. Get ONE league average starter out of Sosa/Gonzalez/Baldwin/Ramos.

Need to fight like hell to get fWAR for bullpen defense and offense to at least around #18-22 in the majors.   

Obviously hit on all the trades this DDL. Finally move on from Shields and Vaughn. 

Easy peazy. Breezy. Etc. 

Still need bats! Sign Soto to massive deal and make him the face of the franchise the next 14-15 years.

Edit: while we are talking about things that won't happen.

Edited July 26, 20241 yr by Bob Sacamano

1 minute ago, Milkman delivers said:

Better find a genie in a fucking bottle, otherwise there’s no chance.

At least that plan MIGHT work. 

To have a real strength and identity... like late 80s early 90s Braves. 

Sasaki to Sox obviously would take visionary or anti Sox thinking and risk tolerance beyond their usual conservative parameters on both Crochet and Sasaki. 

 

All failed starters thrown at the pen would take a lot of luck too.  Can't waste there on veterans like recent plans. 

When you have to start  a paragraph with "pray" and it involves the entire position player group, that should tell you how impossible it will be.

1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:

At least that plan MIGHT work. 

To have a real strength and identity... like late 80s early 90s Braves. 

Sasaki to Sox obviously would take visionary or anti Sox thinking and risk tolerance beyond their usual conservative parameters on both Crochet and Sasaki. 

 

All failed starters thrown at the pen would take a lot of luck too.  Can't waste there on veterans like recent plans. 

He's going to be under the amateur international signing rules so they can't write a big check for him. The quality of the current state of the team will matter.

1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Still need bats! Sign Soto to massive deal and make him the face of the franchise the next 14-15 years.

Edit: while we are talking about things that won't happen.

So why run a franchise at all? 

All four teams in division positioned to bury team and it's fewer and fewer fans forever. 

So to would be a bust with the Sox just like he was in SD.   He won't be worth his contract guaranteed. He doesn't field throw or run well. 

If the Sox want to win by 2027...

Pray for new ownership otherwise it isn't happening. 

Dude what. I don't run this fucking team lol 

Why do I respond to these posts

1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:

So why run a franchise at all? 

All four teams in division positioned to bury team and it's fewer and fewer fans forever. 

So to would be a bust with the Sox just like he was in SD.   He won't be worth his contract guaranteed. He doesn't field throw or run well. 

WE don't run it. Whatever we can imagine or plan doesn't matter. Be realistic.

Edited July 26, 20241 yr by Bob Sacamano

Just now, Bob Sacamano said:

He's going to be under the amateur international signing rules so they can't write a big check for him. The quality of the current state of the team will matter.

It would take qualities no Sox GM since peak KW possessed to brashly sell such a future vision. The baseball equivalent of Dawn Staley. 

3 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Dude what. I don't run this fucking team lol 

Why do I respond to these posts

Why SoxTalk at all if everything is hopeless or pointless? 

Existential question of sports fandom for perennially losing teams... such as the Bears and Bulls as well. 

Those rare magical seasons, of course. 

 

Pitch Sasaki on his being the Michael Jordan of Chicago baseball.  Kris Bryant Prior and Wood all fell short in the end. 

Thomas too in a way.  Obviously 7-8 amazing years then downhill. 

Edited July 26, 20241 yr by caulfield12

12 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

It's quite simple. 

Hold Crochet (extension) and sign Roki Sasaki for whatever it takes. Hold Robert until trade value is maxxed out down the line. 

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/roki-sasaki-update-mlb-executives-planning-for-npb-ace-to-be-posted-this-offseason-per-report/

That gives you Sasaki Crochet Smith Thorpe and a long list of contenders for #5.  Best rotation in the majors. 

Back end Cannon Iriarte G.Taylor Berroa Eder Bush... throw every young pitcher out there like the Sox did in the late 90s to unearth the next Buehrle over the following two seasons...if it's not already there in the form of Thorpe. 

Pray for a Montgomery return to health. Wolkow debut in 2026/27. Quero sticks as league average C.  Have to dump Benintendi just for the sake of youngsters as a poor dead man walking role model. Get ONE league average starter out of Sosa/Gonzalez/Baldwin/Ramos.

Need to fight like hell to get fWAR for bullpen defense and offense to at least around #18-22 in the majors.   

Obviously hit on all the trades this DDL. Finally move on from Shields and Vaughn. 

Easy peazy. Breezy. Etc. 

Easier said than done but I do like the potential of the starting staff but they have to keep Crochet and Fedde and sign them to extensions.  
The starting lineup is anyone’s guess, Quero, Lee, Montgomery, Ramos and Baldwin are going have to fill their potential. I have no idea what to do with Robert, everybody else needs to go, Vaughn has turned out to be a major disappointment.

 

 

9 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

If the Sox want to win by 2027...

Pray for new ownership otherwise it isn't happening. 

Exactly.

So, theoretically, if the Sox had Sasaki right now then they would be all good

36 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

It's quite simple. 

Hold Crochet (extension) and sign Roki Sasaki for whatever it takes. Hold Robert until trade value is maxxed out down the line. 

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/roki-sasaki-update-mlb-executives-planning-for-npb-ace-to-be-posted-this-offseason-per-report/

That gives you Sasaki Crochet Smith Thorpe and a long list of contenders for #5.  Best rotation in the majors. 

 

You just described the 2024 Mariners who are now in a tailspin. A studly starting five won't make up for dearth of talent/depth everywhere else.

38 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

It's quite simple. 

Hold Crochet (extension) and sign Roki Sasaki for whatever it takes. Hold Robert until trade value is maxxed out down the line. 

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/roki-sasaki-update-mlb-executives-planning-for-npb-ace-to-be-posted-this-offseason-per-report/

That gives you Sasaki Crochet Smith Thorpe and a long list of contenders for #5.  Best rotation in the majors. 

Back end Cannon Iriarte G.Taylor Berroa Eder Bush... throw every young pitcher out there like the Sox did in the late 90s to unearth the next Buehrle over the following two seasons...if it's not already there in the form of Thorpe. 

Pray for a Montgomery return to health. Wolkow debut in 2026/27. Quero sticks as league average C.  Have to dump Benintendi just for the sake of youngsters as a poor dead man walking role model. Get ONE league average starter out of Sosa/Gonzalez/Baldwin/Ramos.

Need to fight like hell to get fWAR for bullpen defense and offense to at least around #18-22 in the majors.   

Obviously hit on all the trades this DDL. Finally move on from Shields and Vaughn. 

Easy peazy. Breezy. Etc. 

Is "Smith" Noah Schultz? 

By 'if the White Sox want to win' do you mean win the World Series, finish above .500 or win a game? Because one of those will probaly happen, one might happen and one will not happen.

If the Sox really want to win, buy 2,027 good players

Edited July 26, 20241 yr by Snopek

.....then we have to pray that Jerry has moved on

9 minutes ago, Snopek said:

If the Sox really want to win, buy 2,027 good players

Oooooh that makes sense.

The Sox will not be signing Sasaki, sadly. I bet the fix is in for the Dodgers. Also, future pitching is not their biggest concern. Even if they trade Crochet they have Schultz, Taylor, Smith, Thorpe, and a host of guys not named Nastrini or Burke ready to emerge. Their problem is no one can hit.

I know things look bad but do you really think this losing streak is going to last until 2027?? I'm sure they will win a game again, maybe as early as next week.

1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said:

If the Sox want to win by 2027...

Pray for new ownership otherwise it isn't happening. 

You nailed it.  

4 minutes ago, wegner said:

I know things look bad but do you really think this losing streak is going to last until 2027?? I'm sure they will win a game again, maybe as early as next week.

These days, I am not even that sure.