22 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

I never understood PTBNL.. Could the Sox just not decide who they liked?

A typical arrangement puts a few guys on a list, and then the receiving team has some period of time to decide which of them they want.

13 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Don't worry.. Tousaint is up

Really? He cannot throw strikes in AAA. Why in God’s name would you put him on the 40 man? I hate these people.

32 minutes ago, whitesoxwinner said:

We need Miguel vargas to come in and light it up

Bet on him sitting on the bench for a while first.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-trade-grades-why-dodgers-cardinals-both-get-an-a-for-three-team-deadline-deal-with-white-sox/

White Sox get a D grade.

For whatever it's worth, three evaluators with rival teams we spoke to agreed that this package felt light. Maybe the White Sox see something -- in Vargas, but also Albertus and Perez -- that will allow them to get the last laugh.

https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/dodgers-cardinals-white-sox-three-team-trade-scouting-reports-on-every-player/

 

In depth reports on trade. 

Both secondary prospects noted for their lack of standout tools that would allow them to really break out. 

Seems like just more versions of Sosa Ramos Ja.Gonzalez and Baldwin. 

Fringe. 

 

 

Freely accessible content at Baseball America home page

Alexander Albertus, 2B/3B
Age: 19

Albertus, who was signed out of Aruba in 2022, is one of the prospects in the lower levels of the Dodgers’ system with the highest floor. His swing gets to the zone quickly and he keeps the barrel in the zone for a long time, which should give him plenty of hittability and the potential for average power as he matures. Though he’s played mostly third base so far, he’s gotten some exposure at second base and there are evaluators who believe he might wind up at first base as well. Albertus doesn’t have a plus tool on the card, but his hit tool and power both settle in as 50s on the 20-to-80 scouting scale.

Jeral Perez, 2B
Age: 19

Perez announced his presence loudly in 2023, when he led the Rookie-level Arizona Complex League in home runs. He started hot again this year with Low-A Rancho Cucamonga, where he was one of the best hitters in the minor leagues in the early portion of the season. He’s a well-rounded player without a standout tool. Perez might push 50 grades on the 20-to-80 scouting scale for both hitting and power, though some scouts believe both of those tools might only get to fringe-average thanks to a lengthier swing and a vulnerability against spin. On defense, Perez shows limited range at second base and has gotten some reps at third base as well. His ceiling is as a bat-first utility infielder

Edited July 29, 20241 yr by caulfield12

20 minutes ago, wegner said:

s%*#, they should let you pitch or DH a game.

If you are old enough, they will run you out therew.

Great White Sox Dave article.

There is a 0.0 percent chance this was the best deal on the table for Fedde. I refuse to believe that.

I wasn’t going to say anything because I hate rebuilds but I have absolutely no confidence in Getz or anybody else in this organization having a successful rebuild. Good organizations don’t do rebuilds, they develop players in farm systems and fill in the missing pieces with smart trades and free agent signings.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

16 minutes ago, JoshPR said:

Watch the golden calf fix Kopech...

Eh, he was never going to be fixed here anyway.  He refused to listen to basic coaching with suggestions to change his pitch usage for too long.

Yeah we can now grow a semblance of a fan base in Aruba!!! 

More like a fan club I guess. 

1 minute ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Great White Sox Dave article.

Link?

13 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

Wouldn't the team be better off  if Fedde wasn't traded and still on the team?  To get nothing for him is bad. I remember when Hahn traded David Robertson to the Yankees for nothing. I couldn't  relate trading a good pitcher for nothing. Trading Fedde for nothing is similar to the Robertson trade. This was nothing but a salary dump. The payroll next year will probably be the lowest in MLB. Low payroll equals big profits for JR.

I would have rather held on to him and rode him into the offseason versus taking this return, even as a quickly depreciating asset.  There is no way this was the best deal on the table.

11 minutes ago, Johno said:

Could the player to be named later be a 2024 draft pick that can’t be traded yet?

No.  Current year draft picks can't be PTBNL until after the World Series.

I cannot wait to see what the Tigers get for Flaherty and REALLY see this place blow up.  

9 minutes ago, fathom said:

WSDave reporting he heard there were offers that were better but not selected.  Also saying he heard 100 million for payroll next year.

Better to whom?  Rational Sox fans?  This doesn’t really make any sense, unless in Getz’s mind, the return he chose was better.

https://x.com/Sleepy_Harold_/status/1817996454016770203?t=uGELO7bj83KDmUxBCc8S_Q&s=19

10 minutes ago, fathom said:

WSDave reporting he heard there were offers that were better but not selected.  Also saying he heard 100 million for payroll next year.

I can't wait to see us waste $50 million this offseason.

How can the Cards acquire a guy with at least $25M in surplus value (Fedde) for a guy with no surplus value (Edman). + Pham. ? 
  And in a sellers market. 
    

1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said:

Eh, he was never going to be fixed here anyway.  He refused to listen to basic coaching with suggestions to change his pitch usage for too long.

Kopech Hollywood volatile mixture goes full-Glen Powell A Star is Born or completely blows up under the bright lights of national media attention. 

How much service time does Vargas have left?

2 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Better to whom?  Rational Sox fans?  This doesn’t really make any sense, unless in Getz’s mind, the return he chose was better.

Not if he refused to trade with the AL central. Like WS Dave alluded to

1 minute ago, Baker said:

How can the Cards acquire a guy with at least $25M in surplus value (Fedde) for a guy with no surplus value (Edman). + Pham. ? 
  And in a sellers market. 
    

By dealing with the White Sox

Just now, Chicago White Sox said:

How much service time does Vargas have left?

I think he has 4 years after this year.. so we also don't even get a full 6 years lol

Just now, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Not if he refused to trade with the AL central. Like WS Dave alluded to

Ah okay, didn’t see the WSD post.  At least there was still some moronic rationale for Getz to choose a worse return I guess.  Dear lord…