October 3, 20241 yr 9 hours ago, fathom said: Settle for less cause they include Benintendi in a deal Because we spent it on Vaughn and Nicky.
October 4, 20241 yr On 10/2/2024 at 8:33 PM, fathom said: Settle for less cause they include Benintendi in a deal How low do you think JR actually wants that payroll ? I don't know what it's looking like now with 10D and Robert without Moncada and Eloy but combined Beni and Junior make around $32M . You non tender Vaughn ,Sheets and Lopez, there's around $12M gone Soroka's a FA that's another $3M gone.Clevinger and Flexen are UFA. Everyone else isn't making squat . They have to field a team.If they trade Robert and nontender those I mentioned were looking at like $40M plus anyone they decide to sign for more than $1M. While I wouldn't be shocked to see them ruin a Crochet trade by trying to include Beni, I'm thinking it's right up there with Sox fan paranoia about trading for Salvador Perez last off season. Nothing to worry about until it actually happens. I also wouldn't be shocked to see Crochet pitch again for the Sox. It depends on what the trade offers look like for him. We'll see how some of these playoff teams feel about getting beat and making some serious offers .
October 4, 20241 yr On 10/3/2024 at 4:44 AM, Chicago White Sox said: Attaching Benintendi to Crochet would be the single dumbest decision in baseball history and only this shitshow of an org would even consider something so idiotic. If it happens, it should be very clear that Harold is Getz. I dunno. Hiring Tony La Russa in 2021 would seem to be a dumber decision.
October 4, 20241 yr 48 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: How low do you think JR actually wants that payroll ? I don't know what it's looking like now with 10D and Robert without Moncada and Eloy but combined Beni and Junior make around $32M . You non tender Vaughn ,Sheets and Lopez, there's around $12M gone Soroka's a FA that's another $3M gone.Clevinger and Flexen are UFA. Everyone else isn't making squat . They have to field a team.If they trade Robert and nontender those I mentioned were looking at like $40M plus anyone they decide to sign for more than $1M. While I wouldn't be shocked to see them ruin a Crochet trade by trying to include Beni, I'm thinking it's right up there with Sox fan paranoia about trading for Salvador Perez last off season. Nothing to worry about until it actually happens. I also wouldn't be shocked to see Crochet pitch again for the Sox. It depends on what the trade offers look like for him. We'll see how some of these playoff teams feel about getting beat and making some serious offers . 85-90
October 4, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, fathom said: Musgrove out all next year…welcome to San Diego, Garrett Salas and DeVrieze are their last big trade assets... PEREZ, VASQUEZ, BRITO, WALDRON, and some Pads' fans want to bring back Blake Snell on a much cheaper deal...he seemed happiest in SD fwiw. Blake Snell's contract has a player opt-out option available after 2024. Moreover, he will be paid his signing bonus in January 2026. Additionally, $15 million of his 2025 salary has been deferred without interest to 2027. He is to be an unrestricted free agent in 2026. Think they would have to make a deal with SFG on the financials...maybe SD paying 5/$40 and SF eating the rest to move on. Edited October 4, 20241 yr by caulfield12
October 5, 20241 yr 19 hours ago, fathom said: Musgrove out all next year…welcome to San Diego, Garrett Any team that gets Crochet will be lucky to have him. He's the type of player the Sox should try to extend. He's taken his career into his own hands and always looking for ways to be better. He realizes you never should stop looking for ways to improve. When others were saying he should be shut down because his 2nd half stared off poorly he was quietly working on a sinker. He wants to be more efficient, throw less pitches, go deeper into games, give up less HRs, get a DP when it's needed. He also loves the plan he and Getz and Bannister devised so much that he didn't want to alter it in any way. Getz might have been perturbed when Crochet said he wanted a contract extention to pitch in the off season but it actually was a testament to how much he liked how well his season had gone to that point .There was no way in hell he wanted to jeopardize his career for one post season. As soon as 2025 he likely gets a chance to pitch in the post season as a better version of himself than he was in 2024 and be well on his way to a 9 figure contract. One more year of proving he can stay healthy and pitch a complete season and he can get it. He could get it before then but he better make sure he gets some opt outs. Edited October 5, 20241 yr by CaliSoxFanViaSWside
October 5, 20241 yr 19 hours ago, caulfield12 said: Salas and DeVrieze are their last big trade assets... PEREZ, VASQUEZ, BRITO, WALDRON, and some Pads' fans want to bring back Blake Snell on a much cheaper deal...he seemed happiest in SD fwiw. Blake Snell's contract has a player opt-out option available after 2024. Moreover, he will be paid his signing bonus in January 2026. Additionally, $15 million of his 2025 salary has been deferred without interest to 2027. He is to be an unrestricted free agent in 2026. Think they would have to make a deal with SFG on the financials...maybe SD paying 5/$40 and SF eating the rest to move on. You have to wonder if the Padres ran out of prospects to trade. But you can dupe Getz into making Birmingham better, I admire their aggressiveness trying to unseat the Dodgers. That seems like it is the only real rivalry in baseball. No white flag trades there despite having a good season without Soto.
October 5, 20241 yr On 10/4/2024 at 4:28 PM, fathom said: Musgrove out all next year…welcome to San Diego, Garrett You have to get Salas and De Vries, and that’s probably not enough. Edited October 5, 20241 yr by WhiteSox2023
October 6, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said: You have to get Salas and De Vries, and that’s probably not enough. You’re expecting MLb.coms prospects number 19 and 28 to come back in a Chris Getz deal? If you’d just like to copy and paste my scoffing at this from last year along with posts of how Morosi totally said it was going to happen it can probably save us some time
October 6, 20241 yr 18 hours ago, Balta1701 said: You’re expecting MLb.coms prospects number 19 and 28 to come back in a Chris Getz deal? If you’d just like to copy and paste my scoffing at this from last year along with posts of how Morosi totally said it was going to happen it can probably save us some time No, but that’s what a competent GM should be able to get back.
October 6, 20241 yr 3 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: No, but that’s what a competent GM should be able to get back. Eh, for a guy with Crochet’s issues and only two years of control, that isn’t happening. I don’t think that’s a question if GM quality, that’s just where the market is now. Not in an offseason when there are other options. Maybe at a trade deadline if the market goes a bit nuts like in 2023.
October 7, 20241 yr On 10/5/2024 at 7:42 PM, WhiteSox2023 said: You have to get Salas and De Vries, and that’s probably not enough. Salas barely hit .200. De Vries not much better.
October 7, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, oldsox said: Salas barely hit .200. De Vries not much better. SD will likely wait until mid season to make any trades unless something dramatically changes in their ability to generate tv revenues....as noted, need a rebound from some of their better prospects. Baltimore makes a lot more sense because they have the prospects, and perhaps not the willingness to break the bank for Burnes or Fried. Snell doesn't strike me as the type of pitcher Elias would covet. Edited October 7, 20241 yr by caulfield12
October 7, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, oldsox said: Salas barely hit .200. De Vries not much better. De Vries was a 17 y/o in A ball with a +.800 ops with plus speed and a good shot to stick at SS. Come on.
October 7, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, oldsox said: Salas barely hit .200. De Vries not much better. Yep, that’s why I think they should be both be the price. Both are still very young but their prospect ratings appear to be much higher than their performances dictate thus far. De Vries has hit much better than Salas though. Edited October 7, 20241 yr by WhiteSox2023
October 7, 20241 yr Salas ended the season injured, for one...he has always been more about projection on the offensive side due to being the youngest player everywhere he has ever been. "His ability to pop out of the crouch and utilize impressive arm strength should also help him limit the running game. Salas also runs well for a catcher, and even if he slows as he ages, the rest of his game is so well-rounded that he could be the face of the next catching generation."
October 7, 20241 yr 2 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Yep, that’s why I think they should be both be the price. Both are still very young but their prospect ratings appear to be much higher than their performance dictates. The Dodgers or Phillies or Yankees could all end up being the ones desperate for more pitching, though. Baltimore and/or Atlanta will both have to replace their aces in all likelihood. Cohen could decide to jump start their retooling process. New GM in SF will want to make a splash and then you never know what the Tigers or Guardians might do. Also, LA had so many guys on the shelf they'll wait on May Gonsolin Stone...Buehler, etc.
October 15, 20241 yr After watching Carlos Rodon dominate the Guardians, I can't help but think of Crochett, Schultz, and Smith doing the same thing. Getz has his power left-handed pitching of the future, now go find some bats.
October 15, 20241 yr 47 minutes ago, Falstaff said: After watching Carlos Rodon dominate the Guardians, I can't help but think of Crochett, Schultz, and Smith doing the same thing. Getz has his power left-handed pitching of the future, now go find some bats. Don’t forget Sale and Quintana…
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