4 hours ago, tray said:

Your dime won't make a difference either way but understand this - if you don't support the team, you aren't a fan.

To quote Emily Gilmore in the Gilmore Girls... "When a woman gives birth to a crack baby, you do not buy her a puppy"

The gatekeeper has denied entry 

5 hours ago, tray said:

Your dime won't make a difference either way but understand this - if you don't support the team, you aren't a fan.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

5 hours ago, tray said:

Your dime won't make a difference either way but understand this - if you don't support the team, you aren't a fan.

lol…glad you are the authority of who is and isn’t a White Sox fan.

6 hours ago, tray said:

Your dime won't make a difference either way but understand this - if you don't support the team, you aren't a fan.

Thank you for letting me know.

6 hours ago, tray said:

Your dime won't make a difference either way but understand this - if you don't support the team, you aren't a fan.

Phew well thank god we now have your opinion.

 

 

Nor care what you think.

Edited February 2, 20251 yr by Bob Sacamano

20 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Phew well thank god we now have your opinion.

 

 

Nor care what you think.

Support the players who give their all...but not necessarily ownership or the front office until they demonstrate real tangible signs of forward progress.

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

lol…glad you are the authority of who is and isn’t a White Sox fan.

I am not an authority or arbiter of fandom, but, by definition, a sports fan is an ardent and enthusiastic supporter of a team. If you choose to withdraw your support, which some suggest they will do, you are by definition, not a fan of the team. Some have even suggested they are the opposite - that they hope for failure of the team and will not attend games. That nonsense only hurts current fans who support the team and young pitchers and players trying to motivate to win games for the WSox and us, the fan base. I don't know where the foolhardy notion that not spending a dime to support Jerry Reinsdorf came from, but it is selfish, stupid (and maybe worse if it includes personal hatred for the owner, as in, he is cheap). Just a few years ago many so-called current fans were all in on the team when the WSox added Grandal to what looked to be a strong line-up. Things didn't work out and some just bailed on the team. The historic losing season invited sarcastic trolls, cub fans, know-it-alls, and big mouths to claim that they only now have withdrawn support for the team. I understand what happened with multiple key (and some expensive) players disappointing us. I largely blame Ken Williams and Rick Hahn for putting together those teams, as did the ownership, which is why Hahn and KW were fired.

IMO our new GM, Manager and all the young pitchers and players deserve a fvking break from fans and their fvking support, especially before the first game of Spring training begins.  Whoever claimed that somehow hurting Reinsdorf will have any positive impact on the team now or in the future sold you on a stupid idea.

Edited February 2, 20251 yr by tray

I mean when you close your eyes plug your ears and say nananananananana when people explain things to you, I guess you get the gatekeeping response 

7 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

I mean when you close your eyes plug your ears and say nananananananana when people explain things to you, I guess you get the gatekeeping response 

Really a foolish non-responsive post, but I am not going to waste any further time on this, especially with you.

Edited February 2, 20251 yr by tray

6 minutes ago, tray said:

Really a foolish non-responsive post, but I am not going to waste any further time on this, especially with you.

I enjoyed it.

25 minutes ago, tray said:

I am not an authority or arbiter of fandom, but, by definition, a sports fan is an ardent and enthusiastic supporter of a team. If you choose to withdraw your support, which some suggest they will do, you are by definition, not a fan of the team. Some have even suggested they are the opposite - that they hope for failure of the team and will not attend games. That nonsense only hurts current fans who support the team and young pitchers and players trying to motivate to win games for the WSox and us, the fan base. I don't know where the foolhardy notion that not spending a dime to support Jerry Reinsdorf came from, but it is selfish, stupid (and maybe worse if it includes personal hatred for the owner, as in, he is cheap). Just a few years ago many so-called current fans were all in on the team when the WSox added Grandal to what looked to be a strong line-up. Things didn't work out and some just bailed on the team. The historic losing season invited sarcastic trolls, cub fans, know-it-alls, and big mouths to claim that they only now have withdrawn support for the team. I understand what happened with multiple key (and some expensive) players disappointing us. I largely blame Ken Williams and Rick Hahn for putting together those teams, as did the ownership, which is why Hahn and KW were fired.

IMO our new GM, Manager and all the young pitchers and players deserve a fvking break from fans and their fvking support, especially before the first game of Spring training begins.  Whoever claimed that somehow hurting Reinsdorf will have any positive impact on the team now or in the future sold you on a stupid idea.

You should be asking for more support for position players while you're at it.

Other teams got Machado Wheeler and Harper.

We got Grandal, who was pushed out of LA because Kershaw refused to pitch to him and a series of key defensive nlunders in the postseason got him demoted...Keuchel instead of Wheeler and all the premiere pitchers in that FA class, Lance Lynn and Kimbrel (complete disaster as a set up guy)...we didn't QO Rodon for reasons, but instead QO'ed Kimbrel which led to?a Misfit with Pol lock which led to an even bigger disaster giving Benintendi two more years than any other team in baseball was willing to coming off his one good year (thanks Yankees lineup) in the previous four.

Then Kelly and Graveman...who all thought so highly of Hendriks that they didn't show up to his cancer recovery press conference with Liam's always encouraging wife.

 

We should be undyingly grateful for these half measures and promises of parades and unprecedented financial flexibility that quickly dried up in 2022/23??????

WHY?????

And then threatening for the second time to move the team to Nashville?

Running the second lowest payroll in MLB in the third biggest market?

Now being one of only two teams to never okay a $100+ million contract...and we will soon be the only one when Brent Rooker signs an extension with the A's...

Edited February 2, 20251 yr by caulfield12

18 minutes ago, tray said:

I am not an authority or arbiter of fandom, but, by definition, a sports fan is an ardent and enthusiastic supporter of a team. If you choose to withdraw your support, which some suggest they will do, you are by definition, not a fan of the team. Some have even suggested they are the opposite - that they hope for failure of the team and will not attend games. That nonsense only hurts current fans who support the team and young pitchers and players trying to motivate to win games for the WSox and us, the fan base. I don't know where the foolhardy notion that not spending a dime to support Jerry Reinsdorf came from, but it is selfish, stupid (and maybe worse if it includes personal hatred for the owner, as in, he is cheap). Just a few years ago many so-called current fans were all in on the team when the WSox added Grandal to what looked to be a strong line-up. Things didn't work out and some just bailed on the team. The historic losing season invited sarcastic trolls, cub fans, know-it-alls, and big mouths to claim that they only now have withdrawn support for the team. I understand what happened with multiple key (and some expensive) players disappointing us. I largely blame Ken Williams and Rick Hahn for putting together those teams, as did the ownership, which is why Hahn and KW were fired.

IMO our new GM, Manager and all the young pitchers and players deserve a fvking break from fans and their fvking support, especially before the first game of Spring training begins.  Whoever claimed that somehow hurting Reinsdorf will have any positive impact on the team now or in the future sold you on a stupid idea.

None of this will impact Jerry…that’s definitely true.  But fans have every right to prioritize their limited entertainment dollars as they see fit.  And right now, the Sox aren’t putting a product on the field that’s going to excite the fanbase.  If fans want to voice their displeasure through their wallets then more power to them.

I went to Sox Fest, I will go to four or five games, I will watch the team most days for the first couple months…but I ain’t committing to anything more than that until they give me good reason to.  And I can assure you that I live & die for this wretched franchise and if anyone tries to tell me otherwise because my interest is currently at all time low then I will them to go F themselves.

Sometimes “support” means tough love, which means not giving them a free pass by continuing to give them money.

It’s like the f***-up rich kid who keeps getting bailed out by their rich parents. At some point, they’ve got to learn that your money comes with some set of expectations.

And then we're all supposed to cheer watching Buehrle Sale Quintana Giolito Cease Kopech Lopez Rodon and now Crochet/Robert leave for the next hot set of prospects...???

Meanwhile, the Rays still can't make things work with $700 million of public financing ... but Jerry Reinsdorf so far has committed all of $0 dollars of his own money...why does he even deserve it after the last decade????

Edited February 2, 20251 yr by caulfield12

8 hours ago, tray said:

Your dime won't make a difference either way but understand this - if you don't support the team, you aren't a fan.

Let’s look at this a different way.  Perhaps you are one of the reasons the Sox suck and never spend money.  You support this garbage team and owner.  Jerry knows you will spend money on his garbage product regardless so he never has to spend money on the team.  Enjoy watching games this year for a $67 million dollar payroll team.

Edited February 2, 20251 yr by WhiteSox2023

32 minutes ago, tray said:

Really a foolish non-responsive post, but I am not going to waste any further time on this, especially with you.

It’s all good man, all of your responses are a waste.  Not even sure why you hang out with us peasants 

56 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

I mean when you close your eyes plug your ears and say nananananananana when people explain things to you, I guess you get the gatekeeping response 

Is calling somebody a "boot-licker" an explanation of something? 

51 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

an even bigger disaster giving Benintendi two more years than any other team in baseball was willing to coming off his one good year (thanks Yankees lineup) in the previous four.

It's funny when people root for JR to spend more money, throw more years at players just to prove he "wants to win", then when it goes bad, it becomes the example of how JR is too cheap to sign free agents. 

6 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

It's funny when people root for JR to spend more money, throw more years at players just to prove he "wants to win", then when it goes bad, it becomes the example of how JR is too cheap to sign free agents. 

List all the premium free agents he has signed...

The answer is just one, Albert Belle.

Which was a big F U to other owners he thought were out of control like Steinbrenner and a shot across the MLBPA's bow moreso than anything.

Although Fisk, Dunn and Hendriks would be possible responses as well.

9 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

It's funny when people root for JR to spend more money, throw more years at players just to prove he "wants to win", then when it goes bad, it becomes the example of how JR is too cheap to sign free agents. 

He may start to win people over when he signs a player to a contract over $100 million, you know, like every other franchise 

We all want the team to be good. Why? Because we are fans.

Some of us just understand that certain things need to get worse before they can get better.

Thats really all there is to it.

7 minutes ago, Tony said:

He may start to win people over when he signs a player to a contract over $100 million, you know, like every other franchise 

But the A's...well they're technically sold out for the season in Sacramnto, are in the Top 10-12 teams for new spending this offseason and are showing up on a growing number of playoff prediction lists.

Edited February 2, 20251 yr by caulfield12

I don't care who goes to games, watches on TeeVee, or buys the next theme hat. I just went to my first game in 5 years this September. People vote with their feet. If the team's good, people will show up.

I never understand the notion that if somebody chooses to wish-cast on the future of some minor leaguers, that automatically makes us Jerry Reinsdorf's personal sex slaves. I mean, maybe the people who bought season tickets for 30 years speak from their own personal experience. 

5 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

I don't care who goes to games, watches on TeeVee, or buys the next theme hat. I just went to my first game in 5 years this September. People vote with their feet. If the team's good, people will show up.

I never understand the notion that if somebody chooses to wish-cast on the future of some minor leaguers, that automatically makes us Jerry Reinsdorf's personal sex slaves. I mean, maybe the people who bought season tickets for 30 years speak from their own personal experience. 

You mean like Dick Allen here?

That was only 22 years of support though...doesn't qualify as a true fan.

 

And sex slaves to JR?  Well, that conjures up such a lovely vision.  Sounds more like a PizzaGate conspiracy theory.

Aiyo.