vilehoopster Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 So, listening to REKAP podcast, and someone asked if Thorpe would be ready for spring training, and (I think) McGuffey answered that he heard or he thought that Thrope was TBD for spring training. Had anyone heard that? I had no idea. I thought that shutting him down and the elbow thing done, that he would be completely ready by spring. I saw this and thought he was good for spring. What happened? This is from CBS Sports, Dec. 11: White Sox general manager Chris Getz said Wednesday that Thorpe (elbow) is going through his normal offseason throwing program and expected to be 100 percent for spring training, Scott Merkin of MLB.com reports. Thorpe underwent surgery in early September to remove a bone spur in his right elbow but has apparently already made a full recovery. So what went wrong?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 With typical White Sox communications, we will find out in February when he doesn't show up. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Until I hear otherwise, I expect him to show up to Spring Training in the best shape of his life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 25 minutes ago, wegner said: Until I hear otherwise, I expect him to show up to Spring Training in the best shape of his life. And then get hurt running to first. As a pitcher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, vilehoopster said: So, listening to REKAP podcast, and someone asked if Thorpe would be ready for spring training, and (I think) McGuffey answered that he heard or he thought that Thrope was TBD for spring training. Had anyone heard that? I had no idea. I thought that shutting him down and the elbow thing done, that he would be completely ready by spring. I saw this and thought he was good for spring. What happened? This is from CBS Sports, Dec. 11: White Sox general manager Chris Getz said Wednesday that Thorpe (elbow) is going through his normal offseason throwing program and expected to be 100 percent for spring training, Scott Merkin of MLB.com reports. Thorpe underwent surgery in early September to remove a bone spur in his right elbow but has apparently already made a full recovery. So what went wrong?? The Sox have a pretty good history of pitchers that they say will be "fine" and it turns out they aren't. Just recently Dunning and Rodon come to mind. Like a poster once wrote, (sorry I don't remember who) "I always assume the worst when it comes to injuries until shown otherwise..." Pretty good words to live by when it comes to the Sox medical, training and conditioning staffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 2 hours ago, vilehoopster said: So, listening to REKAP podcast, and someone asked if Thorpe would be ready for spring training, and (I think) McGuffey answered that he heard or he thought that Thrope was TBD for spring training. Had anyone heard that? I had no idea. I thought that shutting him down and the elbow thing done, that he would be completely ready by spring. I saw this and thought he was good for spring. What happened? This is from CBS Sports, Dec. 11: White Sox general manager Chris Getz said Wednesday that Thorpe (elbow) is going through his normal offseason throwing program and expected to be 100 percent for spring training, Scott Merkin of MLB.com reports. Thorpe underwent surgery in early September to remove a bone spur in his right elbow but has apparently already made a full recovery. So what went wrong?? Unfortunately, no medical procedure or rehab is guaranteed or linear in process. It could very well be that after taking the recovery time, he is just building up the arm and he won't pitch early on. What they were able to do with Crochet was ground breaking and an outstanding achievement. It's worth keeping an eye on. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, ptatc said: Unfortunately, no medical procedure or rehab is guaranteed or linear in process. It could very well be that after taking the recovery time, he is just building up the arm and he won't pitch early on. What they were able to do with Crochet was ground breaking and an outstanding achievement. It's worth keeping an eye on. What happened with Crochet was amazing. Do you think, however, it could catch up to him in 2025? I for one, do not trust he being healthy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: What happened with Crochet was amazing. Do you think, however, it could catch up to him in 2025? I for one, do not trust he being healthy. Yeah, it's not a gamble the Sox were really in a position to take. Glad they sold high. Edited January 22 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 Remember when Davis Martin on the last day of the season got pulled walking off holding his elbow and everyone just assumed he was going under for TJ? But then he showed up for Spring Training? And then lasted 1 day at spring Training and promptly went under the knife for TJ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Remember when Davis Martin on the last day of the season got pulled walking off holding his elbow and everyone just assumed he was going under for TJ? But then he showed up for Spring Training? And then lasted 1 day at spring Training and promptly went under the knife for TJ? Pepperidge Farm remembers 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 8 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Yeah, it's not a gamble the Sox were really in a position to take. Glad they sold high. If they sold high, it's a three player deal with one of the Red Sox Top 3 guys...the injury concerns have to be considered with Montgomery to some extent. That said...he doesn't seem to be the type of player who has to rely on outfielder speed like a Jared Mitchell. (and yes completely different injuries) It was a fair trade but not a steal either unless you are getting a potential future star...but much better than Cease (unless Zavala and Thorpe somehow both stick). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 39 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: What happened with Crochet was amazing. Do you think, however, it could catch up to him in 2025? I for one, do not trust he being healthy. It's very possible. After talking to some people involved, I'm more optimistic that he can carry it over without significant issues. However, it is so different than previous plans with pitchers that while it makes sense l, it is ground breaking so who knows. My biggest questions is if boston will continue to follow through with the plan. We know the Sox had a plan with sale and Boston didn't follow through and sale got injured relatively quickly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 24 minutes ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Remember when Davis Martin on the last day of the season got pulled walking off holding his elbow and everyone just assumed he was going under for TJ? But then he showed up for Spring Training? And then lasted 1 day at spring Training and promptly went under the knife for TJ? Medicine is not linear nor a hard science as much as we try to make it. There is a reason they call it the practice of medicine. He is not the only one this has happened to nor will he be the last. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 hours ago, Ducksnort said: And then get hurt running to first. As a pitcher. I remember that time when Carson Fullmer was finally pitching ok and hurt himself busting it down the line and then he sucked again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 38 minutes ago, wegner said: I remember that time when Carson Fullmer was finally pitching ok and hurt himself busting it down the line and then he sucked again. That's what set Jose Contreras on a down ward trend....it was either covering 1B or trying to field a bunt, but it definitely happened in late May 2006 against Cindy. Never the same again from that moment onwards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 hours ago, Buehrle>Wood said: Remember when Davis Martin on the last day of the season got pulled walking off holding his elbow and everyone just assumed he was going under for TJ? But then he showed up for Spring Training? And then lasted 1 day at spring Training and promptly went under the knife for TJ? He's another one that I forgot about. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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WhiteSox2023 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 6 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: So it begins… And SS2K5 just called it a couple days ago. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: So it begins… And SS2K5 just called it a couple days ago. Scholtens to the rotation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Scholtens to the rotation... Now it all makes sense, sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 27 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: So it begins… And SS2K5 just called it a couple days ago. I am impressed the news came two weeks earlier than I figured. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 What was his injury last fall? Did he have surgery? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: What was his injury last fall? Did he have surgery? He had surgery to shave down a bone spur in his right elbow. "Supposedly" he was 'good' to go and was ramping up his off season work. Clown organization from top to bottom in all areas. 🤡 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 7 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: What was his injury last fall? Did he have surgery? Bone spurs on his elbow. They were scraped, and he was supposed to be ready for spring training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: He had surgery to shave down a bone spur in his right elbow. "Supposedly" he was 'good' to go and was ramping up his off season work. Clown organization from top to bottom in all areas. 🤡 Dude, every single pitcher on the Dodgers is practically injured at all times. Injuries happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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