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3 hours ago, soulfly said:

Man, 2007 made me think of Dewon Day.  Then it made me think of the shitty song cover of you had a bad day, but it was, cause you have Dewon Day.  It used  to be on youtube, but it's gone now sadly.  That was pretty much the only good part of that 2007 team was that video.

Also the year of MacDougal Aardsma Sisco...all the hard throwing big guys.

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11 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I believe you meant 2027.  2007 already sucked so hopefully we don’t have to relive that season again.  🤣

Obviously it was a typo on my part, you are right. 2027. 😁

2007 was the year when Kenny brought in every relief pitcher who threw 95+. Unfortunately they couldn't find the plate, got behind in the count and then got ripped by hitters. 

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12 hours ago, ptatc said:

It never needs one but it will happen. The two sides won't give and I think the owners are set on it this time.

Time will tell. But I think the odds are much better on my side of the discussion.

No salary cap yesterday, not today and not tomorrow or ever.  

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47 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Time will tell. But I think the odds are much better on my side of the discussion.

No salary cap yesterday, not today and not tomorrow or ever.  

I could believe a salary cap is possible if the owners gave the players an honest and legitimate guarantee of a much larger revenue share.

I can’t believe the owners will do that.

I believe that if they try to enforce a salary cap without a major concession on the players side the players will walk away without a season.

I don’t believe the owners or the players would do that. Too much money at stake, and would require nearly all the owners to stay on board. People who are lobbying for stadiums or gambling licenses - the last thing they would want is to further undermine public relations.

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2 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

https://forum.orioleshangout.com/topic/56232-orioles-sign-dylan-carlson/#comments

Jacob Amaya is available again with the Carlson move lol.

Orioles' fans currently believe Elias is going to trade Heston Kjerstad for starting pitching help.

He probably wants to be traded at this point after two outfielder signings this offseason.

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7 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Time will tell. But I think the odds are much better on my side of the discussion.

No salary cap yesterday, not today and not tomorrow or ever.  

Sorry. I'm not saying the floor or cap will happen, the MLB union is far too strong. I'm saying there will be a prolonged strike/lockout.

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1 hour ago, ptatc said:

Sorry. I'm not saying the floor or cap will happen, the MLB union is far too strong. I'm saying there will be a prolonged strike/lockout.

OK, sorry I misunderstood, I agree with you, the owners will once again try to catch the unicorn and once again they'll fail. 

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41 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

OK, sorry I misunderstood, I agree with you, the owners will once again try to catch the unicorn and once again they'll fail. 

As you said earlier, we'll see. I do think the owners are more unified this time.

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4 hours ago, ptatc said:

As you said earlier, we'll see. I do think the owners are more unified this time.

How could they be?  You've got 12 large market/revenue producing teams vs. 18 mid and small markets.

Why would those twelve teams have any interest in increased revenue sharing, tax penalties, redistributing local broadcasting revenues, etc.???

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17 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Time will tell. But I think the odds are much better on my side of the discussion.

No salary cap yesterday, not today and not tomorrow or ever.  

Well the alternative has big money owners (not necessarily "big market" teams)  sign the biggest stars in the game to mega million long term contracts while a few peons in the stands wear paper bags over their heads and yell "sell Jerry sell" hoping against hope that a billionaire businessman somewhere somehow would want to throw away good money after bad in a rigged game. Not going to happen so might as well come out to some games and support the young players out there. They deserve it and will appreciate it.

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“Jerry shouldn’t throw good money against a bad rigged game”

”might as well come out to some games” and put money in the pocket of the owner who won’t spend 😂😂😂

all time favorite tray boot lick right here.  And in consecutive sentences, right after he calls his fellow fans peons

this guy is the man of the Sox people 

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1 hour ago, tray said:

Well the alternative has big money owners (not necessarily "big market" teams)  sign the biggest stars in the game to mega million long term contracts while a few peons in the stands wear paper bags over their heads and yell "sell Jerry sell" hoping against hope that a billionaire businessman somewhere somehow would want to throw away good money after bad in a rigged game. Not going to happen so might as well come out to some games and support the young players out there. They deserve it and will appreciate it.

Except not even Ricketts will do that...we'll see with Tucker soon enough.

Your paragraph isn't at all motivating to most Sox fans...it's like the average mom and pop investor competing with the billionaire class, except we at least get scrap back at 10% rather than enriching a billionaire.

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2 hours ago, tray said:

Well the alternative has big money owners (not necessarily "big market" teams)  sign the biggest stars in the game to mega million long term contracts while a few peons in the stands wear paper bags over their heads and yell "sell Jerry sell" hoping against hope that a billionaire businessman somewhere somehow would want to throw away good money after bad in a rigged game. Not going to happen so might as well come out to some games and support the young players out there. They deserve it and will appreciate it.

But that system is making all of these owners rich.

While there are flaws, every one of them except maybe Cohen is taking home tens of millions of dollars per year, and Cohen is the exception because he’s trying for an even more lucrative gambling license in NYC which could easily evaporate if there’s a loss of games.

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2 hours ago, Kyyle23 said:

“Jerry shouldn’t throw good money against a bad rigged game”

”might as well come out to some games” and put money in the pocket of the owner who won’t spend 😂😂😂

all time favorite tray boot lick right here.  And in consecutive sentences, right after he calls his fellow fans peons

this guy is the man of the Sox people 

You’re just a hater, troll, or Cubs fan bro

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3 hours ago, tray said:

Well the alternative has big money owners (not necessarily "big market" teams)  sign the biggest stars in the game to mega million long term contracts while a few peons in the stands wear paper bags over their heads and yell "sell Jerry sell" hoping against hope that a billionaire businessman somewhere somehow would want to throw away good money after bad in a rigged game. Not going to happen so might as well come out to some games and support the young players out there. They deserve it and will appreciate it.

Boy if this isn't a description of what Sox fans are being asked to do for the next half decade, I don't know what is.  

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13 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Boy if this isn't a description of what Sox fans are being asked to do for the next half decade, I don't know what is.  

Imagine being in the AL East or AL West and trying to compete...that would be even more hopeless.

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