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On 1/28/2025 at 5:46 AM, Kyyle23 said:

“Jerry shouldn’t throw good money against a bad rigged game”

”might as well come out to some games” and put money in the pocket of the owner who won’t spend 😂😂😂

all time favorite tray boot lick right here.  And in consecutive sentences, right after he calls his fellow fans peons

this guy is the man of the Sox people 

He also greatly underestimated the number of peons chanting for Jerry to sell the team.

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43 minutes ago, greg775 said:

Baseball's union will never agree to a salary cap. Case closed. They'd rather strike and miss a season or two than agree to that.

Correct. History shows again and again that the owners keep talking about this but when push comes to shove they fold like a cheap suit.

They need to give up the ghost because it is never going to happen. 

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5 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Interesting headline that I saw today, couldn't read the story in the Athletic. Maybe someone who has a subscription can give a summery of what Manfred said.

Free-spending Dodgers aren’t bad for baseball, MLB commissioner says

 

 

"This is an issue that we need to be vigilant on," Manfred said Thursday following the end of an owners meeting. "We need to pay attention to it and need to determine whether there are things that can be done to allay those kinds of concerns and make sure we have a competitive and healthy game going forward."

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"The Dodgers are a really well-run, successful organization," Manfred said. "Everything that they do and have done is consistent with our rules. They're trying to give their fans the best possible product. Those are all positives. I recognize, however, and my emails certainly reflect that there are fans in other markets who are concerned about their team's ability to compete. And we always have to be concerned when our fans are concerned about something. But pinning it on the Dodgers, I'm not in that camp."

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2. Orioles: 31.6-point difference
PECOTA: 75.6% | FanGraphs: 44.0%

"PECOTA projects the Orioles to overcome the losses of Burnes and Santander and challenge the Yankees for AL East supremacy. FanGraphs, though, sees things differently, ranking the O’s eighth among AL clubs in terms of playoff odds."

https://www.mlb.com/news/2025-mlb-playoff-odds-biggest-differences-in-projected-standings

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From a CBS Sportsline story today on things to watch for in the spring:

10. Early CBA bellyaching

It is beginning much earlier than usual this time around. The current collective bargaining agreement expires in December 2026, and typically each side begins making their agenda known a year before the CBA expires. Already though, several owners, including Hal Steinbrenner (Yankees) and David Rubenstein (Orioles) are griping about spending, and commissioner Rob Manfred has dropped hints about pursuing a salary cap. "This is an issue that we need to be vigilant on," he told the Associated Press earlier this month. You need not worry about a work stoppage this season or next. Clearly though, the next round of CBA talks will be a heavyweight fight, with another lockout during the 2026-27 offseason looking increasingly likely. Tensions are already beginning to flare.

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6 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

From a CBS Sportsline story today on things to watch for in the spring:

10. Early CBA bellyaching

It is beginning much earlier than usual this time around. The current collective bargaining agreement expires in December 2026, and typically each side begins making their agenda known a year before the CBA expires. Already though, several owners, including Hal Steinbrenner (Yankees) and David Rubenstein (Orioles) are griping about spending, and commissioner Rob Manfred has dropped hints about pursuing a salary cap. "This is an issue that we need to be vigilant on," he told the Associated Press earlier this month. You need not worry about a work stoppage this season or next. Clearly though, the next round of CBA talks will be a heavyweight fight, with another lockout during the 2026-27 offseason looking increasingly likely. Tensions are already beginning to flare.

Been talking about it for a while. Hence everyone knows there the odds of having a 2027 season continue to dwindle.

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MLBPA has been criticized for taking bad deals due to bad leadership. But most recent CBA makes me think it may not be leadership problem so much as a lack of resolve. And adding minor leaguers to the picture is likely to make them even more likely to buckle in a lockout in exchange for a few peanuts to the minor leaguers and fringe guys.

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4 hours ago, ptatc said:

Been talking about it for a while. Hence everyone knows there the odds of having a 2027 season continue to dwindle.

As I've said before it won't bother me in the slightest because in 2027, like 2026 and 2025 the White Sox will suck.

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3 hours ago, Jake said:

MLBPA has been criticized for taking bad deals due to bad leadership. But most recent CBA makes me think it may not be leadership problem so much as a lack of resolve. And adding minor leaguers to the picture is likely to make them even more likely to buckle in a lockout in exchange for a few peanuts to the minor leaguers and fringe guys.

The one single unshakable tenant for the most powerful union in the world has been no agreement with anything that depresses or puts limits on salary for the rank and file aka a salary cap. 

It was true in the 1970's and is still true in the 2020's. 

If I had to bet I'd say you aren't going to have a lot of baseball, maybe none in 2027 because as union head Tony Clark recently said the union will never agree to a salary cap. And they shouldn't not with the money MLB is making something like 12 BILLION dollars a season.   

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I don't know if a salary cap  will ever be accomplished. Maybe something will be done about paying players with deferred money. I think the Dodgers have over $1 billion on the books in deferred payments.

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38 minutes ago, WBWSF said:

I don't know if a salary cap  will ever be accomplished. Maybe something will be done about paying players with deferred money. I think the Dodgers have over $1 billion on the books in deferred payments.

It never will nor should it in my opinion.

Regarding deferred money, that is a legit topic for the owners to work out amongst themselves.

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On 1/28/2025 at 5:46 AM, Kyyle23 said:

“Jerry shouldn’t throw good money against a bad rigged game”

”might as well come out to some games” and put money in the pocket of the owner who won’t spend 😂😂😂

all time favorite tray boot lick right here.  And in consecutive sentences, right after he calls his fellow fans peons

this guy is the man of the Sox people 

You would be thrown out of any college for misquoting and spinning the actual opinion of others. I doubt you graduated from any college though based on the level of your discourse and juvenile revenge posts.

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8 minutes ago, tray said:

You would be thrown out of any college for misquoting and spinning the actual opinion of others. I doubt you graduated from any college though based on the level of your discourse and juvenile revenge posts.

Or he would be elected to higher office...

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25 minutes ago, tray said:

You would be thrown out of any college for misquoting and spinning the actual opinion of others. I doubt you graduated from any college though based on the level of your discourse and juvenile revenge posts.

I am confused at how @Kyyle23 misinterpreted your post.  There are plenty of MLB team owners that spend more money trying to compete than Jerry.  They obviously don’t spend as much as the Dodgers but definitely more than Jerry.  And other teams than the Dodgers have won the World Series in recent years without spending as much as the Dodgers.  But you pretty much justify and excuse Jerry for not spending because the game is “rigged”.  But this is obvious hyperbole, as it is possible for a team to make the playoffs and win a World Series without spending as much as the Dodgers.  Last I checked, the Dodgers haven’t won every World Series over the past 10 years or so.  

So what are you actually trying to say, if @Kyyle23 truly did misinterpret your post?

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40 minutes ago, tray said:

You would be thrown out of any college for misquoting and spinning the actual opinion of others. I doubt you graduated from any college though based on the level of your discourse and juvenile revenge posts.

Tray you need a nap.  You should go take one

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53 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

Tray you need a nap.  You should go take one

I no longer want to trade personal jabs so I will no longer respond to you on any post you make other than adding a laughing emoji where it is called for.

But go ahead keep it up if that feeds into your need for oneupmanship on a little baseball forum.

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https://www.dukechronicle.com/article/2025/02/duke-university-kennedy-center-president-donald-trump-fires-multiple-board-members-david-rubenstein-appoints-himself-chairman-truth-social-announcement

President Donald Trump announced his plan to fire multiple board members of the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts and appoint himself as chairman, replacing David Rubenstein, Trinity College ‘70 and one of Duke’s top donors.

Trump posted the announcement on his social media platform Truth Social Friday, claiming that neither Rubenstein — in his role as board chairman — nor other board members “share [the country’s] Vision for a Golden Age in Arts and Culture.” Established in 1958, the Kennedy Center is considered “the nation’s cultural center” and “a true ‘artistic mecca.’”

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