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16 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Jerry won’t pay for pretty much anything to improve returns,  minor league depth is worse than ever, the teams in front of us by 40-50 games have similarly ranked farms systems, but things are magically going to be fixed.

Death spiral is a perfect way to describe this franchise right as they pat themselves on the back telling us how great of a job by refusing to do even a decent part of what it takes to win today in MLB.

Hahahahahaha. It's funny that the only guy who ranked the Sox' farm system the lowest, Keith Law, is the guy who has said that Chris Getz is doing a good job with the organization. 

We're pretending that IF ONLY REINSDORF SENT UNLIMITED MONEY TO MINNESOTA.... KEASAHULL WOULD BE OURS!!!!! AND THEN ALL THE HOME RUNZZZZ WOULD HAPPENNNNN!!!!!!111

Seriously, we're talking about rumors of partial rumors. It's the latest insider meme: "WOW, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS TAKE ON MONEY, AND WE GET THEIR TOP 5 PROSPECTS!!!!!!" 

I guess I'm at a loss. I don't have any children. And everybody seems to be letting their 5-year-olds post about trade possibilities, when a grown adult would understand that 99% of what's being discussed is nonsense. 

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8 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Hahahahahaha. It's funny that the only guy who ranked the Sox' farm system the lowest, Keith Law, is the guy who has said that Chris Getz is doing a good job with the organization. 

We're pretending that IF ONLY REINSDORF SENT UNLIMITED MONEY TO MINNESOTA.... KEASAHULL WOULD BE OURS!!!!! AND THEN ALL THE HOME RUNZZZZ WOULD HAPPENNNNN!!!!!!111

Seriously, we're talking about rumors of partial rumors. It's the latest insider meme: "WOW, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS TAKE ON MONEY, AND WE GET THEIR TOP 5 PROSPECTS!!!!!!" 

I guess I'm at a loss. I don't have any children. And everybody seems to be letting their 5-year-olds post about trade possibilities, when a grown adult would understand that 99% of what's being discussed is nonsense. 

So why even talk about it lol?

And Law was probably being sarcastic...if it has anything to do with the White Sox.

The Twins have/had Jenkins, E.Rodriguez and Brooks Lee that were 100% untouchables to them last summer, along with Royce Lewis, Miranda and Wallner.

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27 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

please let me know the first time Dominican efforts have resulted in a 2 fWAR player...it's now 16 years and counting., unless you're going to count Tatis, Jr. as "SOX/Getz development"

WTF are you asking? Your non-sequiturs are confusing. 

Please list out the times your posts have resulted in championships for any team in any sport. 

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Edward Robert Muscare (born Eduardo Joseph Vianney; September 27, 1932[1] – January 8, 2012), also known by his pseudonyms of Edarem, Uncle Ed, and Edmus Scarey, was an American television presenter, entertainer, internet celebrity, and sex offender.[3] He gained success online through his eccentric and comedic posts on YouTube, uploaded from 2006 through 2009.

Born into a working-class Sicilian immigrant family in Queens, New York, Muscare moved to Hialeah, Miami, as a teenager, before joining the United States Army. He became a presenter for local programming in Kansas City and Phoenix, but his career ended following an arrest for sexual battery in 1986. In 2006, he began posting videos of himself to YouTube, where he achieved widespread popularity. However, probation requirements relating to his 1987 conviction stipulated that he was forbidden to own a computer, and by doing so, he was put on trial in 2010, and sentenced to five years in prison for violation of probation. A campaign was organized by his friends and supporters claiming that his imprisonment was unjust, but he died before he could be released.

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24 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

So why even talk about it lol?

And Law was probably being sarcastic...if it has anything to do with the White Sox.

The Twins have/had Jenkins, E.Rodriguez and Brooks Lee that were 100% untouchables to them last summer, along with Royce Lewis, Miranda and Wallner.

No, National writers aren't sarcastic in their rankings. Do you have anything of value to say, here?

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Frequencies supposedly involved are between 5 and 9 Hz, which are below the lower frequency limit of human hearing. High-power sound waves below 20 Hz are felt in the body.

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8 hours ago, WestEddy said:

Hahahahahaha. It's funny that the only guy who ranked the Sox' farm system the lowest, Keith Law, is the guy who has said that Chris Getz is doing a good job with the organization. 

We're pretending that IF ONLY REINSDORF SENT UNLIMITED MONEY TO MINNESOTA.... KEASAHULL WOULD BE OURS!!!!! AND THEN ALL THE HOME RUNZZZZ WOULD HAPPENNNNN!!!!!!111

Seriously, we're talking about rumors of partial rumors. It's the latest insider meme: "WOW, ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS TAKE ON MONEY, AND WE GET THEIR TOP 5 PROSPECTS!!!!!!" 

I guess I'm at a loss. I don't have any children. And everybody seems to be letting their 5-year-olds post about trade possibilities, when a grown adult would understand that 99% of what's being discussed is nonsense. 

I think this sums up most of your responses lately pretty well.  Continue your death spiral. 

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8 hours ago, WestEddy said:

WTF are you asking? Your non-sequiturs are confusing. 

Please list out the times your posts have resulted in championships for any team in any sport. 

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Scared me a bit lol...saw this and wondered why you were looking up my hometown church's namesake but it's actually St. John Vianney (that was included for reasons unknown at the bottom of your post)...maybe in an attempt to be mocking, but who knows?

Are you okay?

Did some research for you, you're welcome!

https://soxmachine.com/2023/09/podcast-how-chris-getz-can-help-turnaround-the-white-sox-with-keith-law/

"Kenny and Rick were incredibly hands off with the farm system. Kenny worked about 10 hours a week and all Rick did was talk with agents about free agents and other teams about trades, he left the day-to-day operations of baseball ops to Jeremy Haber except for Player Development which he left to Getz. So Getz had all the decision-making power in player development already, except for the budget, which he still won’t control."

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34 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Scared me a bit lol...saw this and wondered why you were looking up my hometown church's namesake but it's actually St. John Vianney (that was included for reasons unknown at the bottom of your post)...maybe in an attempt to be mocking, but who knows?

Are you okay?

Did some research for you, you're welcome!

https://soxmachine.com/2023/09/podcast-how-chris-getz-can-help-turnaround-the-white-sox-with-keith-law/

"Kenny and Rick were incredibly hands off with the farm system. Kenny worked about 10 hours a week and all Rick did was talk with agents about free agents and other teams about trades, he left the day-to-day operations of baseball ops to Jeremy Haber except for Player Development which he left to Getz. So Getz had all the decision-making power in player development already, except for the budget, which he still won’t control."

Well there goes that narrative. 

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12 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Thorpe Zapata, Eder, Gonzalez, Colson sliding, Fletcher Berroa Vargas Colas Ramos....if a lot more of those broke the right way.  Mixed bag trending uo. for sure.

Every organization has players rising and falling. It's no different with the Sox. Obviously in a rebuild you hope to acquire prospects who will rise but it's not always the case. Fail rates among all prospects are much higher than successes.

Hiring the right people in the right position in the infrastructure will help facilitate advancement.Being an educator I'm sure you never tell your students to give up hope. You say put your nose to the grindstone . Most people educating you want you to succeed but it takes time and effort and you will fail along the way. You must always rise and face challenges .

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23 hours ago, Eminor3rd said:

I fear you are going to be really disappointed in Munetaka Murakami

Wonder if a grandson or even a great grandson of Masanori Murikami, he was with Giants in mid 60s. Had him on a rookie baseball card back then. 

 

But in the 1960s, Masanori Murakami of the Giants opened new doors with his appearance against the New York Mets. A crowd of 40,524 gave Murakami a standing ovation as he walked to the Shea Stadium pitcher's mound on Sept. 1, 1964, becoming the first Japanese player to appear in a big league game.

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15 minutes ago, MnSoxFan said:

Wonder if a grandson or even a great grandson of Masanori Murikami, he was with Giants in mid 60s. Had him on a rookie baseball card back then. 

 

But in the 1960s, Masanori Murakami of the Giants opened new doors with his appearance against the New York Mets. A crowd of 40,524 gave Murakami a standing ovation as he walked to the Shea Stadium pitcher's mound on Sept. 1, 1964, becoming the first Japanese player to appear in a big league game.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/baseball/who-is-munetaka-murakami-when-will-he-be-joining-the-mlb-all-you-need-to-know-about-the-next-aaron-judge/ar-AA1xkFcY

Seemingly no connection.

Pretty common Japanese name...like Park Lee Kim in Korea.

My favorite author shares the same last name, in fact.

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All of these experts are wrong again. They were wrong when they had us winning the central a couple seasons ago and they are wrong now. These prospects will not pan out. And even if they do sniff a MLB roster they will riddled with injuries and have such flawed approaches they won't win much. It's what we do and we're the best at it in all of sports. 

Until the organization starts over with a new owner and all new employees that s%*# just permeates everything. 

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14 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/baseball/who-is-munetaka-murakami-when-will-he-be-joining-the-mlb-all-you-need-to-know-about-the-next-aaron-judge/ar-AA1xkFcY

Seemingly no connection.

Pretty common Japanese name...like Park Lee Kim in Korea.

My favorite author shares the same last name, in fact.

Haruki I'm guessing.  I'm usually not a fantasy, sci fi reader. What do you suggest? 

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12 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said:

1Q84 is pretty wild, I second the rec

Yeah…not exactly a book I can recommend to high school students, I used to say “only in China” but now likely on a ban list in the US, too.

Has a little bit of Gabriel Garcia Marquez to him…but not some of those worst tendencies in older age.  Although he did write a novella that’s quite similar to Lolita in the last decade.

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On 1/31/2025 at 7:06 AM, caulfield12 said:

"Two years ago at this time, the White Sox had the 25th-ranked farm system in baseball, then last year they moved up to 20th and last summer, after the trade deadline and draft, they moved up to eighth. And now, they are a Roki Sasaki away from having the top farm system in the game."

Last year $172 million FV.

Credit to Getz or Crochet lol?  Quero trade?  Draft positioning due to abysmal record? 

Schultz/Montgomery/Taylor upside?

So this means pennants are in our future? Dominance of division soon?

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36 minutes ago, greg775 said:

So this means pennants are in our future? Dominance of division soon?

Not until 2027 or likelier 2028.

It also requires JR to spend in FA as well...which is far from certain.

A labor strike/confrontation after 2026 is quite possible if the Dodgers win three consecutive titles.

 

2000 and 2018/19 #1 milb systems certainly didn't guarantee a thing as you well know.

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I have no faith in this crop. Besides Schultz, there isn't a player in the minors where I can say "wow, hes going to be an impact player". The talent is there since scouts are rating them high, but looking at results and remembering how this organization is ran, I am not optimistic.

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8 minutes ago, reiks12 said:

I have no faith in this crop. Besides Schultz, there isn't a player in the minors where I can say "wow, hes going to be an impact player". The talent is there since scouts are rating them high, but looking at results and remembering how this organization is ran, I am not optimistic.

I have faith in the lefties (Schultz and Smith) and some other arms. Don't really have a lot of faith on the position player side.

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42 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

I have faith in the lefties (Schultz and Smith) and some other arms. Don't really have a lot of faith on the position player side.

This system is weird now in that yes, they're absolutely missing high ceiling talent other than the lefties, but they also seem to have more candidates to be position player regulars than the 2017 system. I'd definitely take the 2017 system in terms of high ceiling position players, but one of the things that system was lacking was anyone behind the top few guys, which we've seen the results of. You got down to like prospect 11 and suddenly you're at Zach Collins and thinking "I'm not sure this guy's a big leaguer". You look at Meidroth and you think "ok maybe?" I'd certainly hope they could get at least a couple of position players who stick, even if they're not all stars.

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