southsider2k5 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 20 minutes ago, fathom said: Disaster, but let’s just pray the big 3 pitching prospects stay healthy Taylor especially. The other guys seem to have decent histories, but Grant Taylor needs to get there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, SoxAce said: I hope Thorpe comes back throwing with much more velocity than he did before. I hope he can come back with the same action on the change up that led all of baseball in k's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vilehoopster Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Sometimes (most of the time??) it is so difficult to be a White Sox fan. The team has been playing better; I've been able to convince myself that they will only be bad and not terrible. But driving home and listening to the game, I hear first about TJS for Thorpe (not unexpected; we were all saying this last fall). And then I hear about Drury's thumb injury, completely out of the blue. I had such high hopes for Drury. Two of the few players I was really excited about this year are out for long periods of time. Just God Damn. It is soooo tough to be a White Sox fan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Sigh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 2 hours ago, fathom said: Or what if he was achy last year, as his velocity was down a bit I thought Preller traded us damaged goods? He would never! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 6 minutes ago, chw42 said: Preller traded us damaged goods? He would never! Last year would have been the time to complain...or maybe he was never right when he came over from the Yankees?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, vilehoopster said: Sometimes (most of the time??) it is so difficult to be a White Sox fan. The team has been playing better; I've been able to convince myself that they will only be bad and not terrible. But driving home and listening to the game, I hear first about TJS for Thorpe (not unexpected; we were all saying this last fall). And then I hear about Drury's thumb injury, completely out of the blue. I had such high hopes for Drury. Two of the few players I was really excited about this year are out for long periods of time. Just God Damn. It is soooo tough to be a White Sox fan. Live long enough to see new ownership and it will get better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 1 hour ago, chw42 said: Preller traded us damaged goods? He would never! And the Sox keep getting duped by him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) 7 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: And the Sox keep getting duped by him. Tatis was on steroids! Preller and Get were both fooled by Martin Maldonado...lol. Edited March 22 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Taylor especially. The other guys seem to have decent histories, but Grant Taylor needs to get there Yeah, he has an extensive injury. Smith had his UCL reconstruction but it was 5 years ago or so. Schultz with those long levers is a risk. Odds are you can count on him having one at some point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ptatc said: Yeah, he has an extensive injury. Smith had his UCL reconstruction but it was 5 years ago or so. Schultz with those long levers is a risk. Odds are you can count on him having one at some point. Rodon has held up fairly decently...enough to get rewarded with big contracts on multiple occasions. Even Giolito got bailed out by the Red Sox front office. Edited March 22 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) Another year wasted…….nobody is Suprised. TJ and the Sox continues at a ridiculous rate last few years. Edited March 23 by Soxfest 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 23 hours ago, vilehoopster said: I disagree, Drew is going to be the jewel that that makes that trade a success, maybe not next month put it will happen. And really, my crystal ball is just as truthful as yours. Jewel………Your crystal ball is cloudy. Looking at a 2 year window of very little success. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 On 3/21/2025 at 8:52 PM, vilehoopster said: I disagree, Drew is going to be the jewel that that makes that trade a success, maybe not next month put it will happen. And really, my crystal ball is just as truthful as yours. It hasn't been your day, your week, your month or even your year... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 I know TJS is more common, but the Sox HAVE to be abnormally high this spring, right? Like, it's not even the flamethrowers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 7 minutes ago, Quin said: I know TJS is more common, but the Sox HAVE to be abnormally high this spring, right? Like, it's not even the flamethrowers. Before the Thorpe one, someone showed a spreadsheet that said 14 have happened since 1/1 and 4 belong to the Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 17 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Before the Thorpe one, someone showed a spreadsheet that said 14 have happened since 1/1 and 4 belong to the Sox Small sample size cuz it’s only been 3 months but definitely not trending in the Sox favor compared to other teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bighurt4life Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 10 hours ago, ptatc said: It's interesting. The previous surgery was for bone spurs. Has nothing to do with the ligament. Anytime you have a surgery you are in danger of altering the mechanics/geometry of the joint and thus the ligaments holding it together. It’s likely the surgery and subsequent inflammation etc… changed the way his elbow worked causing additional stress on the UCL. Just my thoughts on the matter. Doesn’t really surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 13 minutes ago, bighurt4life said: Anytime you have a surgery you are in danger of altering the mechanics/geometry of the joint and thus the ligaments holding it together. It’s likely the surgery and subsequent inflammation etc… changed the way his elbow worked causing additional stress on the UCL. Just my thoughts on the matter. Doesn’t really surprise me. Only if the surgeon put one of the portals in the wrong place. This would have been an arthroscopic procedure not an open one so they don't cut through tissue. Even if they did an open procedure the UCL is extrarticular and would not be involved in the process. Even with inflammation it would effect the joint capsule but not the ligaments. When they remove the bone spurs they don't change the shape. of the joint. If the surgeons made that significant of an error he would not have been pitching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 1 hour ago, bighurt4life said: Anytime you have a surgery you are in danger of altering the mechanics/geometry of the joint and thus the ligaments holding it together. It’s likely the surgery and subsequent inflammation etc… changed the way his elbow worked causing additional stress on the UCL. Just my thoughts on the matter. Doesn’t really surprise me. There’s probably no way we will ever know for sure if the injuries were related. It would just be speculation from here. HIPAA will deny us access to this news and I doubt Getz and the Sox would ever admit responsibility, even if it was their fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) 29 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: There’s probably no way we will ever know for sure if the injuries were related. It would just be speculation from here. HIPAA will deny us access to this news and I doubt Getz and the Sox would ever admit responsibility, even if it was their fault. If it was,we will hear about the lawsuit for the surgeon. Don't think Getz would have been involved in the surgery. Edited March 23 by ptatc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) 3 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Small sample size cuz it’s only been 3 months but definitely not trending in the Sox favor compared to other teams. It's five now. I think the Mason Adams situation is still up in the air for now about doing the surgery or waiting, yes? https://www.rotoballer.com/player-news/mason-adams-diagnosed-with-flexor-strain/1576222 Edited March 23 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Moooton Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 8 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: It's five now. I think the Mason Adams situation is still up in the air for now about doing the surgery or waiting, yes? He has a flexor strain which I don’t believe is UCL related. That’s good, because according to this thread Getz will have his hands full with all the TJ lawsuits he has coming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 2 hours ago, Lyle Moooton said: He has a flexor strain which I don’t believe is UCL related. That’s good, because according to this thread Getz will have his hands full with all the TJ lawsuits he has coming. Forearm flexor injury is associated with medial ulnar collateral ... The data indicate that FF injury is associated with UCL injury in throwing athletes. Future prospective studies should investigate... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Next man up, let's see who will emerge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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