Alexander Canario

[Capn12]

I definitely expected a little more from Canario, but maybe he's just who he appears to be: fodder.

[WhiteSox2023]

1 hour ago, WestEddy said:

I've said I found Canario interesting, as well as Jordan Walker. I would have had no problem with Getz grabbing up Canario. I just don't think it's a huge fail that he didn't. It looks to me that 2025 was used to put training wheels on Vargas, Sosa, Meidroth, then Quero, Teel and Monty. Canario would have been as bad as Jankowski or the other non-injured OF crowd this April. 

Pereira can play CF, which Canario and Walker really can't. Fuller was brand new April of 2025, and now the Sox seem to have the infrastructure in place to take a whack at ironing out the swing and miss. They can bring Pereira along as a 4th OF, and expose him more as the season progresses. Or drop him in at the deep end, and now he's one glaring project, instead one of 7. 

Tanner Murray's also interesting, and along with Ben Cowles, will be the first men up when somebody goes down on the infield. 

I don't find the trade all that tragic. Steven Wilson was sunk cost. He lost something after the trade, and it was only coming back slowly. Gomez was a nice fixer-upper, I don't think either had too much more value than what they got back. 

Getz seems to be developing this weird profile - chip on his shoulder, won't get taken advantage of by the Phillies, yet will trade low level dudes for waiver fodder with the Red Sox and Rays. At least it wasn't a live rookie-ball arm. 

Hahn had a similar strategy though, didn’t he?  Acquire aging former top prospects that hadn’t panned out on the cheap.  I just checked Jordan Walker’s numbers and it looks like he struggled again.  I thought he had started out hot last year with a swing change but I must be wrong.  I wonder if the Sox would still be interested in him at this point.  He’s still only 23.

Edited November 20 by WhiteSox2023

[WhiteSox2023]

39 minutes ago, Capn12 said:

I definitely expected a little more from Canario, but maybe he's just who he appears to be: fodder.

Could just be the case.  It’s interesting though with guys like Canario and Pereira — they could just be who they appear to be, but it has to be tough to get into a groove when you only get sporadic at bats across a season in a game here or there every other day or play in only two to three games a week.

Edited November 20 by WhiteSox2023

[WestEddy]

59 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Hahn had a similar strategy though, didn’t he?  Acquire aging former top prospects that hadn’t panned out on the cheap.  I just checked Jordan Walker’s numbers and it looks like he struggled again.  I thought he had started out hot last year with a swing change but I must be wrong.  I wonder if the Sox would still be interested in him at this point.  He’s still only 23.

I don't know if Hahn specifically targeted post-hype guys like Getz is doing. They'd grab up guys like Charlie Tilson or Ryan Cordell, talk them up, then park them on the bench. Invariably they'd be caught in between with an injury, then Cordell would be horribly exposed, starting for weeks. And there was really no infrastructure or focus to bring these guys along or fix them. 

Don Cooper had that ability, but I can't remember a hitter they brought in and even turned around any. 

They did have a thing about picking through first rounders who they liked, but missed, and working with them. Rutherford and Humber were guys like that. You could almost pick a draft year, and guess the guys they would be targeting.

[southsider2k5]

7 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

I don't know if Hahn specifically targeted post-hype guys like Getz is doing. They'd grab up guys like Dominic Fletcher and Shewmake, talk them up, then park them on the bench. Invariably they'd be caught in between with an injury, then Fletcher would be horribly exposed, starting for weeks. And there was really no infrastructure or focus to bring these guys along or fix them. 

Don Cooper had that ability, but I can't remember a hitter they brought in and even turned around any. 

They did have a thing about picking through first rounders who they liked, but missed, and working with them. Rutherford and Humber were guys like that. You could almost pick a draft year, and guess the guys they would be targeting.

It still works.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

4 hours ago, WestEddy said:

I don't know if Hahn specifically targeted post-hype guys like Getz is doing. They'd grab up guys like Charlie Tilson or Ryan Cordell, talk them up, then park them on the bench. Invariably they'd be caught in between with an injury, then Cordell would be horribly exposed, starting for weeks. And there was really no infrastructure or focus to bring these guys along or fix them. 

Don Cooper had that ability, but I can't remember a hitter they brought in and even turned around any. 

They did have a thing about picking through first rounders who they liked, but missed, and working with them. Rutherford and Humber were guys like that. You could almost pick a draft year, and guess the guys they would be targeting.

Carlos Quentin was coming off a - 0.8 bWar in his age 24 season in 2007 and needed labrum surgery on his non throwing arm that October who was a former big prospect  that the Sox traded for and he put up a 5.3 bWar in 2008 but never put up those kind of numbers again. Kenny Williams was GM then.