WhiteSox2023 Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 11 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Gilbert wouldn't be a bad headliner even though his star has dimmed a bit after his hamstring injury. If he can stick in center that would be solid. Maybe also get Ewing too who would be a surefire CF. Ewing would probably be the headliner over Gilbert then. He’s probably rated higher than Gilbert now on most lists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 16 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: Ewing would probably be the headliner over Gilbert then. He’s probably rated higher than Gilbert now on most lists. If the NYM really do love Robert like Bob says, we should be able to get both. Its not like either are in their top 5. They are both around 10 or so. Ewing seems to be the type of player Getz loves. I've seen his speed rated anywhere from 55 to 70 and he has very good plate discipline. He also has like 55 steals or something absurd like that this year. If we could get both Gilbert and Ewing that would be a really good return considering how Robert has played for most of the year. @fathom what was the NYM offer last week? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 15 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: For as low as 2-years and $20 million, it most definitely is, which would be an extension within your proposed range. Once again, the new agent Robert hired in January 2024 doesn’t negotiate within your team friendly preferences. Try to read the tea leaves. It’s right in front of your face and you are missing it. What is in front of my face is that Robert has probably underperformed his agent's expectations as well as mine. I don't pretend to know what they would settle for. I would like to retain Robert for the lowest price possible (I suggest 10-14 M per year for 2-4 years because he is worth that to me. That is in-line with his defensive and speed attributes. Several years ago, the Cubs had Jason Heyward with the same problem, and his 20 M salary became an albatross for both him and the Cubs. Now, if Getz can't have a meeting of the minds with Robert...trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 I’d probably roll the dice on Clifford if my scouts thought he could stick in LF. We could use some power and he’s got plenty. He just turned 22 so plenty of time to fix the other issues with his offensive game. Less excited if he’s condemned to 1B. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 15 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: If the NYM really do love Robert like Bob says, we should be able to get both. Its not like either are in their top 5. They are both around 10 or so. Ewing seems to be the type of player Getz loves. I've seen his speed rated anywhere from 55 to 70 and he has very good plate discipline. He also has like 55 steals or something absurd like that this year. If we could get both Gilbert and Ewing that would be a really good return considering how Robert has played for most of the year. @fathom what was the NYM offer last week? I’m not arguing. I’d probably take that offer for Robert in a second. If both guys pan out, you could fill two of your remaining outfield spots along with B. Montgomery. At worst, Ewing could probably be one of the best utility guys in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 1 hour ago, poppysox said: The question was My preference, not Robert. If there is to be an extension, Robert has to be willing to sign it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 24 Share Posted July 24 12 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: If there is to be an extension, Robert has to be willing to sign it. And if he signs any multi-year extension, it’s coming with opt outs after every year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 29 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: I’m not arguing. I’d probably take that offer for Robert in a second. If both guys pan out, you could fill two of your remaining outfield spots along with B. Montgomery. At worst, Ewing could probably be one of the best utility guys in baseball. Throw in Houser and a RP also (not Taylor) s and NYM can also add in Clifford as well, as @Chicago White Sox mentioned. To NYM: Robert (salary retention, not that Cohen cares too much), Houser, any reliever not named Grant Taylor To CWS: OF AJ Ewing, OF Drew Gilbert, DH/1B/OF Ryan Clifford Who says no? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 19 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: And if he signs any multi-year extension, it’s coming with opt outs after every year. Look, if he signs anything it will function as a 1 year deal with something close to $20 million so he still gets paid next year, but allows him another bite at the apple in a year. To be fully honest, if he were willing to take a 4 @ 10 per type of deal, I would be convinced that he is hurt and looking for money because he has confidence in his future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Wont get him, but a Jett/Ewing package would be fun. I'd prefer Jett and a lesser prospect to gilbert and Ewing though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 On 7/22/2025 at 3:07 PM, caulfield12 said: 24. Luis Robert Jr., OF, Chicago White Sox Chance of trade: 50% Robert has been extremely unlucky with ball-in-play results this season, but that has begun to turn around recently. He remains a strong defender and baserunner, with a career-high 24 steals already. But the .201/.289/.342 line is unsightly, and his trade value has cratered over the past two seasons. He has a pair of $20 million-a-year club options that an acquiring team would be hesitant to exercise absent a turnaround. Finding a match with a team willing to give up more for Robert's upside rather than his productivity could be challenging. Best fits: San Diego, Philadelphia, New York Mets, San Francisco Houser 32nd Notice Soroka and Moncada at very back end of rankings... https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/45568636/ranking-mlb-trade-deadline-candidates-alex-bregman-jarren-duran Looks like Kwan Lugo Bubic Duran Jax all going will further weaken AL Central... Sheets for Robert who says no ? 🤣 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 My only question is: does Clifford have red hair? Because “Clifford the Big Red Dog” would be such an epic nickname. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 On 7/23/2025 at 2:23 PM, Bob Sacamano said: Is this true or are you fucking with us? lol I would imagine with all the people with blogs and vlogs and social media reporters that they handle calls to verify any confusion often if it's a simple contract question. Now if you asked why Schiffren is such a clown that might not go over so well. Just to be clear I like John. Just thought it would be a question your typical Sox talker might ask. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 24 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: I would imagine with all the people with blogs and vlogs and social media reporters that they handle calls to verify any confusion often if it's a simple contract question. Now if you asked why Schiffren is such a clown that might not go over so well. Just to be clear I like John. Just thought it would be a question your typical Sox talker might ask. The front office phone number is right on the website. I don't know how other teams are about his, but the White Sox have always been cool with information when I call them out of the blue. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 (edited) 2 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: You don’t hire Boras and then take a deal that’s potentially team friendly. Period. If a team buys him out, he’s taking likely a 1-year, highest possible AAV deal to rebuild value. Good topic for a Poll before all the experts take a stab at how much Robert gets as a free agent. Just because Boras is his agent doesn't mean he going to get a $10M+contract next year especially if he wets the bed in the 2nd half . Maybe $10M for 1year in 2026 is better than giving up a decent prospect or 2 for the rest of 2025 and the right to pick up his 2026 option. But trading for him now for ,let's say $3.5M, plus 1 decent prospect and low minors guy might be worth it for a GM just in case he crushes it the rest of the season, in the playoffs and the World Series. Then you might be happy you have the choice on that option. If everyone had to take a stab at it right now because you have no idea how he's going to perform in the 2nd half, I would expect a wide variance of opinions on how it all plays out. It may look cut and dried but it might not be. Edited July 25 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 16 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Good topic for a Poll before all the experts take a stab at how much Robert gets as a free agent. Just because Boras is his agent doesn't mean he going to get a $10M+contract next year especially if he wets the bed in the 2nd half . Maybe $10M for 1year in 2026 is better than giving up a decent prospect or 2 for the rest of 2025 and the right to pick up his 2026 option. But trading for him now for ,let's say $3.5M, plus 1 decent prospect and low minors guy might be worth it for a GM just in case he crushes it the rest of the season, in the playoffs and the World Series. Then you might be happy you have the choice on that option. If everyone had to take a stab at it right now because you have no idea how he's going to perform in the 2nd half, I would expect a wide variance of opinions on how it all plays out. It may look cut and dried but it might not be. I said “highest AAV possible” not “$10M+” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rey21 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 (edited) Robert would be such a good fit for the Phillies, hopefully the Mets noise gets them to move some prospects we’re not expecting for the current version of Robert He’d be a fun fit for the Mets though too, gotta think he breaks out with Soto, Alonso, Lindor around him Edited July 25 by Rey21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanut33tillman Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 4 hours ago, SoCalChiSox said: Get Benge from NYM Sadly don’t think there’s any shot Robert as the headliner is bringing anything close to a prospect like Benge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanut33tillman Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 Seeing some speculating at packages with the Mets in this thread, I’d guess the headliner could be Clifford, Gilbert or maybe Ewing. No shot at Benge, Jett or any other top guy like I’ve seen some throw out there. He’s lower on their T30, but Nick Morabito has really hit the ball well in their system this year AND he’s a 70 run guy. He has hit consistently over the last 2 years in their farm with a decent glove as an OFer too. He may not be a bad get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 9 hours ago, DirtySox said: He got chased off by Haber or a friend of Haber posting here. I think that convo got nuked though. Can't let those twerps chase him off. Most informed poster on the board. Re Robert return, I'm good with pitching. Can't ever have enough and if teams are more willing to trade it, oblige them. We need a CF; but it's unlikely that this deadline solves that anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 (edited) 5 hours ago, GreenSox said: Can't let those twerps chase him off. Most informed poster on the board. Re Robert return, I'm good with pitching. Can't ever have enough and if teams are more willing to trade it, oblige them. We need a CF; but it's unlikely that this deadline solves that anyway. He was? Most of his trade rumors never came to fruition. Do you not remember him pining for Gavin Lux all offseason long? I mean, if he truly had Sox connections and Getz wanted to trade for a 2B with only 2 years left of control during a rebuild, he’s a worse GM than most of us already think. Meanwhile, Lux has played more LF and DH for the Reds than 2B, he’s still not that great of a hitter, and is currently only worth 0.2 bWAR. Also, the guy was obviously biased as he hated any player Hahn had acquired (Sosa, Lee), yet loved any player than Getz acquired (Vargas). Edited July 25 by WhiteSox2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 3 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: He was? Most of his trade rumors never came to fruition. Do you not remember him pining for Gavin Lux all offseason long? I mean, if he truly had Sox connections and Getz wanted to trade for a 2B with only 2 years left of control during a rebuild, he’s a worse GM than most of us already think. Meanwhile, Lux has played more LF and DH for the Reds than 2B, he’s still not that great of a hitter, and is currently only worth 0.2 bWAR. Also, the guy was obviously biased as he hated any player Hahn had acquired (Sosa, Lee), yet loved any player than Getz acquired (Vargas). He acted arrogant as hell too 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 25 Share Posted July 25 (edited) 9 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said: He was? Most of his trade rumors never came to fruition. Do you not remember him pining for Gavin Lux all offseason long? I mean, if he truly had Sox connections and Getz wanted to trade for a 2B with only 2 years left of control during a rebuild, he’s a worse GM than most of us already think. Meanwhile, Lux has played more LF and DH for the Reds than 2B, he’s still not that great of a hitter, and is currently only worth 0.2 bWAR. Also, the guy was obviously biased as he hated any player Hahn had acquired (Sosa, Lee), yet loved any player than Getz acquired (Vargas). Informed as in information about goings on in front office. Also posted a lot of info on draft prospects. Jimmy brings a lot of info too. Everyone has opinions on players, trades, etc. Edited July 25 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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