WhiteSox2023 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 25 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Choosing to look at a much larger sample size of data to make a guess how a player may perform is wrong? I wish the kid all the success he can get, but I'm not sold on him being a savior of the White Sox after 112 AB's in Charlotte. Let's see him do it in the majors and prove me wrong. You are probably right but this team has no one else worth playing anyways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 16 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said: You are probably right but this team has no one else worth playing anyways. He definitely deserved the promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 44 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Choosing to look at a much larger sample size of data to make a guess how a player may perform is wrong? I wish the kid all the success he can get, but I'm not sold on him being a savior of the White Sox after 112 AB's in Charlotte. Let's see him do it in the majors and prove me wrong. He's not going to be a savior. You hope he provides replacement value, or slightly above, which in this situation would be a huge positive. Jesus Christ himself couldn't save this team. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 50 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: He's not going to be a savior. You hope he provides replacement value, or slightly above, which in this situation would be a huge positive. Jesus Christ himself couldn't save this team. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 55 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: He's not going to be a savior. You hope he provides replacement value, or slightly above, which in this situation would be a huge positive. Jesus Christ himself couldn't save this team. Hey man, we got a fan with connections now. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 1 hour ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Choosing to look at a much larger sample size of data to make a guess how a player may perform is wrong? I wish the kid all the success he can get, but I'm not sold on him being a savior of the White Sox after 112 AB's in Charlotte. Let's see him do it in the majors and prove me wrong. I also don't like the use of hyperbole towards my opinion to make your point. I have never used the word savior nor has anyone else to my knowledge. He deserved a shot with his current stats.That's it. You can say what you want if you think labeling a prospect as he is what he is then that's up to you after a mere 2 full and small parts of 2 other seasons . It's not like his plate discipline was terrible in your larger sample size. His career OBP is .348 I understand the reluctance to support a 26 yr old 10th round pick because chances are that kind of prospect succeeding is the exception rather than the rule. Chances are you'll be right if that's important to you. My fandom is about allowing prospects to develop and supporting them when they deserve a shot on the big club that's been filled up with AAAA type failures getting shot after shot and hoping they create a bit of excitement on a team with very bad offensive numbers . I know your not the only one who needs him to prove it. That's fine . He's been treated as organization filler by those who do Future Sox too. It goes with the territory when you start your professional career at 23 after being a 10th round pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 32 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: I also don't like the use of hyperbole towards my opinion to make your point. I have never used the word savior nor has anyone else to my knowledge. He deserved a shot with his current stats.That's it. You can say what you want if you think labeling a prospect as he is what he is then that's up to you after a mere 2 full and small parts of 2 other seasons . It's not like his plate discipline was terrible in your larger sample size. His career OBP is .348 I understand the reluctance to support a 26 yr old 10th round pick because chances are that kind of prospect succeeding is the exception rather than the rule. Chances are you'll be right if that's important to you. My fandom is about allowing prospects to develop and supporting them when they deserve a shot on the big club that's been filled up with AAAA type failures getting shot after shot and hoping they create a bit of excitement on a team with very bad offensive numbers . I know your not the only one who needs him to prove it. That's fine . He's been treated as organization filler by those who do Future Sox too. It goes with the territory when you start your professional career at 23 after being a 10th round pick. I've... literally never said he doesn't deserve a shot (or want him to fail). How you are coming to that conclusion by me having low expectations because his profile historically doesn't breed success is beyond me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Oh, for f***'s sake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 11 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: Hey man, we got a fan with connections now. Only the pope can save this team. The fans in papal outfits are a little creepy though. Venable needs to confer with his coaches more . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 13 hours ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: I've... literally never said he doesn't deserve a shot (or want him to fail). How you are coming to that conclusion by me having low expectations because his profile historically doesn't breed success is beyond me. This. He’d earned his shot and we should all want him to do well, but we should have low expectations. Guy likely isn’t a long term answer but maybe we could have some fun seasons from him at a time when we’re going to suck anyway. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 On 5/9/2025 at 7:17 PM, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: We'll see how long he stays up. Would be sweet if he could hit a 3 run bomb early. Bam ! 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Bam ! First save and pretty sure first two run victory of the season...what did Earl Weaver say about three run homers again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 32 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: First save and pretty sure first two run victory of the season...what did Earl Weaver say about three run homers again? 2nd save and Earl liked them 😋 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 1 hour ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: 2nd save and Earl liked them 😋 Cam’s first save according to the box score. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 43 minutes ago, hi8is said: Cam’s first save according to the box score. 🤔 This season...for the whole team, unless Eisert had one. He already had some for the Red Sox last season as a 32 year old rookie, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 3 hours ago, hi8is said: Cam’s first save according to the box score. 🤔 Teams saves .Brandon Eisert also has one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 Maton loves his Trajekt machine in Charlotte... INF Nick Maton has been sent outright to Triple-A Charlotte; OF Austin Slater will begin an injury rehabilitation assignment at Charlotte tomorrow. — Scott Merkin (@scottmerkin) May 12, 2025 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 (edited) He just knows no other team wants him. What a roster full of crap. Edited May 12 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 1 hour ago, WestEddy said: Maton loves his Trajekt machine in Charlotte... He doesn't have enough service time to elect free agency, right? Or is that for when a guy is optioned? I forget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted May 12 Share Posted May 12 14 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: He doesn't have enough service time to elect free agency, right? Or is that for when a guy is optioned? I forget. I thought that a player can only be outrighted once, then he can elect free agency. Maybe he was released the first time, and re-signed as a minor league FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Bump….this organization is a joke 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 27 minutes ago, fathom said: Bump….this organization is a joke I mean, he hasn't been good. I would have optioned AV, but don't feel this is worth too much hand wringing. You def can't carry 3 catchers and 2 1B so if you're not optioning Elko, it was going to be Quero when Lees rehab is up in a few days anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 28 minutes ago, fathom said: Bump….this organization is a joke There goes their #1 power source per at bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 8 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: I mean, he hasn't been good. I would have optioned AV, but don't feel this is worth too much hand wringing. You def can't carry 3 catchers and 2 1B so if you're not optioning Elko, it was going to be Quero when Lees rehab is up in a few days anyway. Simply need to trade Thaiss and let either Teel or Quero play the rest of the time... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 8 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Simply need to trade Thaiss and let either Teel or Quero play the rest of the time... I think Sox really like Thaiss. But yah, you have to trade him or Lee next couple months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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