The Mighty Mite Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 Watching the Rays and the announcers are talking about how strong the American League Central is except for the White Sox and who ever beats us the most will wind up winning the Central with the other 2 taking the WC, just so embarrassing. I really thought we were turning the corner but the last 3 games have been brutal. It’s time to cut bait with Robert and Vaughn, they’re suppose to be the strength of the lineup and are just plain garbage especially AV because at least Robert is still playing a great center field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankchifan Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 2 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said: I hope Vaughn likes the food at Charlotte. He will like the weather better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 1 hour ago, fathom said: Vargas is only player that would start for the Cubs Nice to see him doing something impressive a lot more. Cubs have no decent guy at 3rd. Getz probably thinking another opportunity to make Birmingham better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 45 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said: Watching the Rays and the announcers are talking about how strong the American League Central is except for the White Sox and who ever beats us the most will wind up winning the Central with the other 2 taking the WC, just so embarrassing. I really thought we were turning the corner but the last 3 games have been brutal. It’s time to cut bait with Robert and Vaughn, they’re suppose to be the strength of the lineup and are just plain garbage especially AV because at least Robert is still playing a great center field. Both Central divisions are a joke. They should make a division for the Pirates, Sox, Reds and call it the cheap ass owners division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 I know everything is cyclomatic. But it seems Chicago will always be a Cubs town Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Grinder said: I know everything is cyclomatic. But it seems Chicago will always be a Cubs town Only some kind of miracle could change it. Back in the Go Go years, the Sox were more popular and I think the Sox were more popular in the first 2 decades of the 20th century leading the Majors in attendance more than a few times while winning 2 World Series but of course the franchise took a beating after the Black Sox scandal. When Reinsdorf took over in 1981 the metro area was just about equally divided and the Sox were the first Chicago team to draw 2 million in 1983 and were the darlings of the area. I have always thought that things really started to change when the Cubs came out of nowhere and won the 1984 division while the Sox floundered that year. The Tribune buying the Cubs and Harry Caray moving to the Northside had huge implications along with WGN becoming a Superstation. Meanwhile with one blunder after another by Reinsdorf has seen the fan base shrink and shrink and I have no idea what the last 3 years are doing to it. Edited May 17 by The Mighty Mite 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 37 minutes ago, The Grinder said: I know everything is cyclomatic. But it seems Chicago will always be a Cubs town It's still a Bears town. The NFL rules many cities not named NY or LA. More often local medias spend more time on the NFL team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankchifan Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 53 minutes ago, kitekrazy said: Both Central divisions are a joke. They should make a division for the Pirates, Sox, Reds and call it the cheap ass owners division. Name it the Relegation Division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 The coaches fixed Vargas just like the coaches fixed Joe Crede years ago. I wonder why they can't fix Robert Jr. He looks completely lost at the plate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 2 hours ago, Dick Allen said: Nothing makes sense. How do you develop not getting chances, the one thing not being a good team should give players? Venable is starting to look like the same clueless boner that Grifol was, but with a better personality when facing the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 hour ago, kitekrazy said: Cubs have no decent guy at 3rd. Getz probably thinking another opportunity to make Birmingham better. He failed in his first taste of the majors to start the season but Matt Shaw is OPS’ing over 1.000 in the minors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 hour ago, kitekrazy said: It's still a Bears town. The NFL rules many cities not named NY or LA. More often local medias spend more time on the NFL team. But, when it comes to baseball, it's a Cubs town. I was actually at the game today and was pleasantly surprised to see more Sox fans than I thought I would though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 hour ago, The Grinder said: I know everything is cyclomatic. But it seems Chicago will always be a Cubs town If the Sox would win on a regular basis, it would be more even. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Isn't it amazing how the Sox usually score early in games? Aside from that, today's game was sort of a bummer. Cubs pretty much boatraced the Sox. Would be nice to get game three and avoid a 3 game losing streak out of nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 hour ago, WBWSF said: The coaches fixed Vargas just like the coaches fixed Joe Crede years ago. I wonder why they can't fix Robert Jr. He looks completely lost at the plate. Very good point. Why can't Robert bust loose and hit .320, not .190? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 22 minutes ago, Ducksnort said: If the Sox would win on a regular basis, it would be more even. Not as long as JR is the owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 3 hours ago, hankchifan said: Sox lineup is AAA quality at best. Hard to compete unless our pitching is superb. I agree the Cubs have the better team. But our lineup I think is better than our pitching. With Meidroth, Elko and Quero to go with Vaughn and Robert that's not bad if Beni was healthy. Our lineup is not that bad. I like our pitching coach. He's gotten pretty good results out of a bunch of stiffs. I think we've just run into a much better team than the Cubs. If we win Sunday that's pretty good to take 1 of 3 in their ballpark IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 Det +14 Twins +6 first time in second all season Guardians +5 Royals +3 White Sox -18 16 games back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 1 hour ago, greg775 said: I agree the Cubs have the better team. But our lineup I think is better than our pitching. With Meidroth, Elko and Quero to go with Vaughn and Robert that's not bad if Beni was healthy. Our lineup is not that bad. I like our pitching coach. He's gotten pretty good results out of a bunch of stiffs. I think we've just run into a much better team than the Cubs. If we win Sunday that's pretty good to take 1 of 3 in their ballpark IMO. The offense sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 56 minutes ago, fathom said: The offense sucks Other than Vargas and Meidroth outplaying expectations overall…they’re still 2-3 middle of the order hitters short. And still not convinced Sosa and Baldwin are long-term pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 I expected a little more from our best starters. They lacked confidence in their pitches and threw too many gopher balls. Venable should stop spitting and focus on motivating this team to play their best against the Cubs. Only a few players looked like they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 8 minutes ago, tray said: I expected a little more from our best starters. They lacked confidence in their pitches and threw too many gopher balls. Venable should stop spitting and focus on motivating this team to play their best against the Cubs. Only a few players looked like they did. Burke has arguably been their fourth best starter...fifth, if you count Martin Perez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 20 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Other than Vargas and Meidroth outplaying expectations overall…they’re still 2-3 middle of the order hitters short. And still not convinced Sosa and Baldwin are long-term pieces. LOL, they are utility players on one of if not the worst team in baseball. There are no long term position players on this team beyond Vargas and possibly Meidroth. Sosa and Baldwin can occasionally hit with power which is why they are in some games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 2 hours ago, fathom said: The offense sucks With Meidroth, Elko, Quero to go with Vaughn and Robert who are underachieving? Beni's absence hurts a lot. But with Beni and those guys? Our offense is decent IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 18 Share Posted May 18 59 minutes ago, greg775 said: With Meidroth, Elko, Quero to go with Vaughn and Robert who are underachieving? Beni's absence hurts a lot. But with Beni and those guys? Our offense is decent IMO. 26 Texas 3.47 3.00 5.00 3.62 3.29 4.22 27 Colorado 3.38 5.67 14.00 4.33 2.54 4.21 28 Chi Sox 3.37 2.33 3.00 3.90 2.92 3.13 29 Kansas City 3.34 2.00 0.00 3.28 3.41 4.46 30 Pittsburgh 3.07 3.33 2.00 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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