Justin Ishbia may not be as well known (or as rich) as his younger brother Mat. But with a $7 billion portfolio of veterinary clinics, autism treatment centers and bakeries, he's made a fortune for himself and his investors.

Tray

If investing in health care/nursing homes is let's posit inherently evil somehow...are Medicaid-funded or the majority of public options even a decent standard of care for the majority of seniors?

My own experience with my mom was that only 20% are really well run (you get what you pay for) and 80% just suck.

Privatizing doesn't always mean better...but neither is public funding anything close to a panacea due to inherent/sytemic government inefficiency.

And most innovations/breakthroughs in the field occur due to private investment combined with government-funded/university/academic partnerships.

Compares Bears stadium situation to the White Sox in 1988:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2026/06/01/chicago-bears-stadium-bill-collapse/

On 6/2/2026 at 11:16 AM, southsider2k5 said:

I would settle for a billionaire that isn't a paper billionaire and has some liquid assets they are willing to invest into the team. The Sox have never had someone whose primary source of wealth wasn't owning a professional franchise.

This is especially true for the McCaskeys. To my knowledge their sole source of fortune is owning the Bears and that's it. It's sort of like how so many people have homes these days that are approaching $500k in value. It's not like that means these people have $500k in cash sitting around to buy sports cars and take 5 luxury vacations a year (unless they borrow against that equity, of course).

To a less extent it's true for Reinsdorf. Not completely, because he made his wealth in real estate and not by inheriting a sports franchise, but again, he's a billionaire because of the value of his sports franchises. He doesn't have $1B+ in liquid cash sitting around.....though he's no doubt very wealthy.

It's just astounding that Sox fans aren't genuinely hopeful at the prospect of deep pocketed billionaire brothers who seem to have a fan-friendly record in owning the Suns are lined up to buy this team. Actually, I think a vast majority (at least 95%) are. It's just a vocal minority (extreme minority) that loudly keeps this inane narrative going.

Edited yesterday at 05:17 AM1 day by 77 Hitmen

On 6/1/2026 at 4:32 PM, Texsox said:

Eventually we will be watching AI created athletes while wearing VR headsets

God, I sure as f*** hope not… they can could me out on that one for sure.

57 minutes ago, 77 Hitmen said:

a vocal minority (extreme minority) that loudly keeps this inane narrative going.

Hold up… you’re telling me there are some people who are legitimately upset at the prospect to losing Jerry and gaining Ishbia???

7 hours ago, hi8is said:

Hold up… you’re telling me there are some people who are legitimately upset at the prospect to losing Jerry and gaining Ishbia???

Not “some”

One

7 hours ago, hi8is said:

God, I sure as f*** hope not… they can could me out on that one for sure.

E Sports will gradually merge with human sports. It's a stat lovers dream. No human bad calls. No poor managing. "Owners" won't have to pay superstar salaries. No freezing your ass off or sweating while watching games. No traffic hassles. No finding a babysitter. No annoying fans next you you.

It will look very lifelike, you won't know the difference. Boomers who might still be alive will complain it's not as realistic or as good as when they were kids, but they say that about everything.

A quick AI look at what a billionaire spending some of his money buying athletes might look like.

New York Mets

The Financial Loss: Following his purchase of the team in 2020, billionaire hedge-fund manager Steve Cohen shattered spending records. In 2023, the Mets posted an estimated $292 million operating loss—the largest single-year deficit ever recorded for a sports franchise—driven by a $375 million payroll and a $101 million luxury tax penalty.

On-Field Results: The "win-now" spending spree yielded wildly erratic results.

2022: 101 wins, securing a Wild Card spot (lost in the Wild Card Series).

2023: A historic collapse. Despite the record payroll, the team finished 75–87, missing the postseason entirely and forcing a mid-season fire sale of aging stars like Justin Verlander and Max Scherzer.

2024–2025: Rebuilt with a blend of younger talent and strategic short-term contracts, bouncing back to secure a deep postseason run to the NLCS in late 2024.

And if the AI generated content

One thing we would have to accept is being the high bidder on a lot of free agents. That will look like "crazy, insane, money for bench players".

1 hour ago, Texsox said:

E Sports will gradually merge with human sports. It's a stat lovers dream. No human bad calls. No poor managing. "Owners" won't have to pay superstar salaries. No freezing your ass off or sweating while watching games. No traffic hassles. No finding a babysitter. No annoying fans next you you.

It will look very lifelike, you won't know the difference. Boomers who might still be alive will complain it's not as realistic or as good as when they were kids, but they say that about everything.

Talk about dystopian.

9 minutes ago, hi8is said:

Talk about dystopian.

E Sports are fun to compete in and watch.

In live action sports we already want to eliminate human officiating mistakes and replace them with technology. We want managers to stop with the "human gut decisions and hunches" and use computer based decisions. Isn't replacing players the logical next step?

By the time we get to replacing human players it will be by fan demand and the young fans will be laughing and mocking the generation that wants to keep things the same.

20 minutes ago, Texsox said:

E Sports are fun to compete in and watch.

In live action sports we already want to eliminate human officiating mistakes and replace them with technology. We want managers to stop with the "human gut decisions and hunches" and use computer based decisions. Isn't replacing players the logical next step?

By the time we get to replacing human players it will be by fan demand and the young fans will be laughing and mocking the generation that wants to keep things the same.

48 minutes ago, Texsox said:

E Sports are fun to compete in and watch.

In live action sports we already want to eliminate human officiating mistakes and replace them with technology. We want managers to stop with the "human gut decisions and hunches" and use computer based decisions. Isn't replacing players the logical next step?

No, not at all. What you're envisioning lives in a totally different sphere of the human experience. Taking the "athlete," and the physical activity, out of athletics removes the central aspect of athletics that has appealed to humankind for generations.

3 hours ago, Texsox said:

E Sports will gradually merge with human sports. It's a stat lovers dream. No human bad calls. No poor managing. "Owners" won't have to pay superstar salaries. No freezing your ass off or sweating while watching games. No traffic hassles. No finding a babysitter. No annoying fans next you you.

It will look very lifelike, you won't know the difference. Boomers who might still be alive will complain it's not as realistic or as good as when they were kids, but they say that about everything.

Couldn't you just have the boomers complain to bots and streamline the operation? The bot would in turn appease the boomer with back in the day stories, it's a win win.

I am an over the hill boomer and I approve this message.

1 hour ago, 35thstreetswarm said:

No, not at all. What you're envisioning lives in a totally different sphere of the human experience. Taking the "athlete," and the physical activity, out of athletics removes the central aspect of athletics that has appealed to humankind for generations.

What appeals has changed through the centuries. Humans invent new entertainment all the time and others fall by the wayside.

OK... let's see if Ishbia puts his money where his mouth is. So far I see a contingent contract between Shore Capital (not Ishbia's personal money) and Amtrak. He can do what Mansueto did with his own money and buy the rest of the 78, so what is holding him up? Why doesn't he address the stadium issues with the media, fans, and especially those who have a financial stake in these matters? The only public statements I have heard from Ishbia is that he confirms that he has nothing to do with running the White Sox including any of their day to day decisions (or, for all we know, future strategies, like signing Murakami). He can't, which makes him largely irrelevant to the 2026 team and maybe well beyond this season.

What you imagine about Ishbia is all between your ears, it is all projection, i.e., this guy is going to personally guarantee hundreds of millions in player contracts.. spend a Billion of his own money on a stadium, knows or cares one hoot about the South side other than seeking maximum profits with the lowest risks possible.

There is the Pope, and then there is this guy. Don't confuse the two.

Edited 21 hours ago21 hr by tray

25 minutes ago, tray said:

OK... let's see if Ishbia puts his money where his mouth is. So far I see a contingent contract between Shore Capital (not Ishbia's personal money) and Amtrak. He can do what Mansueto did with his own money and buy the rest of the 78, so what is holding him up? Why doesn't he address the stadium issues with the media, fans, and especially those who have a financial stake in these matters? The only public statements I have heard from Ishbia is that he confirms that he has nothing to do with running the White Sox including any of their day to day decisions (or, for all we know, future strategies, like signing Murakami). He can't, which makes him largely irrelevant to the 2026 team and maybe well beyond this season.

What you imagine about Ishbia is all between your ears, it is all projection, i.e., this guy is going to personally guarantee hundreds of millions in player contracts.. spend a Billion of his own money on a stadium, knows or cares one hoot about the South side other than seeking maximum profits with the lowest risks possible.

There is the Pope, and then there is this guy. Don't confuse the two.

You mean like working on buying the future site of the Chicago White Sox stadium?

What's Jerry done with his money? Oh right, he only spends other people's money.

54 minutes ago, tray said:

OK... let's see if Ishbia puts his money where his mouth is. So far I see a contingent contract between Shore Capital (not Ishbia's personal money) and Amtrak. He can do what Mansueto did with his own money and buy the rest of the 78, so what is holding him up? Why doesn't he address the stadium issues with the media, fans, and especially those who have a financial stake in these matters? The only public statements I have heard from Ishbia is that he confirms that he has nothing to do with running the White Sox including any of their day to day decisions (or, for all we know, future strategies, like signing Murakami). He can't, which makes him largely irrelevant to the 2026 team and maybe well beyond this season.

What you imagine about Ishbia is all between your ears, it is all projection, i.e., this guy is going to personally guarantee hundreds of millions in player contracts.. spend a Billion of his own money on a stadium, knows or cares one hoot about the South side other than seeking maximum profits with the lowest risks possible.

There is the Pope, and then there is this guy. Don't confuse the two.

Yeah, but compared to JR, Ishbia might be the Pope.

2 hours ago, tray said:

OK... let's see if Ishbia puts his money where his mouth is. So far I see a contingent contract between Shore Capital (not Ishbia's personal money) and Amtrak. He can do what Mansueto did with his own money and buy the rest of the 78, so what is holding him up? Why doesn't he address the stadium issues with the media, fans, and especially those who have a financial stake in these matters? The only public statements I have heard from Ishbia is that he confirms that he has nothing to do with running the White Sox including any of their day to day decisions (or, for all we know, future strategies, like signing Murakami). He can't, which makes him largely irrelevant to the 2026 team and maybe well beyond this season.

What you imagine about Ishbia is all between your ears, it is all projection, i.e., this guy is going to personally guarantee hundreds of millions in player contracts.. spend a Billion of his own money on a stadium, knows or cares one hoot about the South side other than seeking maximum profits with the lowest risks possible.

There is the Pope, and then there is this guy. Don't confuse the two.

One of these guys believes in fairy tales and the other guy may or may not. Justin Ishbia will be much more useful for me going forward, personally.

16 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

One of these guys believes in fairy tales and the other guy may or may not. Justin Ishbia will be much more useful for me going forward, personally.

It really can't be any worse. I know that it statistically can, but I'm willing to gamble here haha

What a mess. I have no idea how this is all going to end.

The Bears said Chicago wasn’t in play. Records point to a...

Records obtained by Crain's show six conversations between City Hall and team attorneys as Springfield lawmakers weighed legislation sought by the Bears.

"Cunningham spoke to “sources within city government who are not part of Brandon Johnson’s political team, who have confirmed for me that these conversations did occur, and they were absolutely not limited to discussions about the current Soldier Field lease.”

Rep. Kam Buckner, the House negotiator, agreed, saying the Bears maintained there was one meeting that the “city hijacked” with talk of a new stadium."

24 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

One of these guys believes in fairy tales and the other guy may or may not. Justin Ishbia will be much more useful for me going forward, personally.

I for one, am not going to kiss a billionaire's ass thinking he has some moral superiority or superior intelligence. OK he made billions through PEI. So you trust him? OK.

I am not the only one that has concerns that The White Sox may abandon their historic home and leave taxpayers holding the bag while adjacent property values are adversely impacted. Oh sure no one else is concerned about that but me. MMFL.

2 minutes ago, tray said:

I for one, am not going to kiss a billionaire's ass thinking he has some moral superiority or superior intelligence. OK he made billions through PEI. So you trust him? OK.

I am not the only one that has concerns that The White Sox may abandon their historic home and leave taxpayers holding the bag while adjacent property values are adversely impacted. Oh sure no one else is concerned about that but me. MMFL.

Well Jerry Reinsdorf is a billionaire and you do ass kiss him so...

And yes.

Throwing a little gas on the fire.

JR Two teams and seven championships as an owner.

Ishbia Brothers, five teams, four as owners or part owners, one championship as an amateur player at Michigan.

46 minutes ago, tray said:

I for one, am not going to kiss a billionaire's ass thinking he has some moral superiority or superior intelligence. OK he made billions through PEI. So you trust him? OK.

I am not the only one that has concerns that The White Sox may abandon their historic home and leave taxpayers holding the bag while adjacent property values are adversely impacted. Oh sure no one else is concerned about that but me. MMFL.

Yet here you are praising Jerry, when this is exactly how he got rich. Hell, he got other people to put up 80% of the purchase of the Chicago White Sox, and had other people build him, not one, but two baseball stadiums in the 1980s. The same guy who was absolutely ready to abandon Chicago for St Pete if he didn't get a stadium build for him by taxpayer funds.

10 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Yet here you are praising Jerry, when this is exactly how he got rich. Hell, he got other people to put up 80% of the purchase of the Chicago White Sox, and had other people build him, not one, but two baseball stadiums in the 1980s. The same guy who was absolutely ready to abandon Chicago for St Pete if he didn't get a stadium build for him by taxpayer funds.

All hail Jerry!