16 hours ago, WBWSF said:

I'm told they are inviting select season ticket holders to the focus groups. I've been a season ticket holder since 1991. Perhaps they just forgot to invite me.

I heard they went out to those who have had season tickets since 1990. Looks like you just missed the cut, sorry.

Edited Tuesday at 09:13 PM1 day by DoUEvenShift

Ishbias have already made the decisions and no one has the resources or ability to stop them...even the Reinsdorfs. Oh yea, brother Justin said the decision to move the White Sox is Jerry's and Jerry's alone. What a wizeass. The factr is that Ishbias decided (prior to any notifications or deliberations with the White Sox, the ISFA, neighbors and concerned Sox fans) to shitcan the area around Sox park with a multi-story 24/7 RR repair facility on 35th street and a railyard boneyard between Cermak and 39th street.

The purpose for moving the railyard was initiated by Ishbia for private profit but can be defended very simply by claiming that it is also for a railroad purpose.

All my life as a Sox fan I came to understand and appreciate the significance of the historic location and the traditions of a team team located there for generations. Then in comes a guy who just bucked out of a deal to acquire the Twins and unilaterally decides to erase the identify and traditions and create something for his own profit, a location bereft of neighborhood and tradition, things that the oldest franchises would never consider throwing away. (The New Yankee stadium is in the Bronx..across the street from the old Yankee stadium..)

Forget a new stadium for like 10 years and sign a star or two like Skubal or Sato. Focus on the team rather than personal wealth. Put your money where your mouth is b1tch.

23 minutes ago, tray said:

Ishbias have already made the decisions and no one has the resources or ability to stop them...even the Reinsdorfs. Oh yea, brother Justin said the decision to move the White Sox is Jerry's and Jerry's alone. What a wizeass. The factr is that Ishbias decided (prior to any notifications or deliberations with the White Sox, the ISFA, neighbors and concerned Sox fans) to shitcan the area around Sox park with a multi-story 24/7 RR repair facility on 35th street and a railyard boneyard between Cermak and 39th street.

The purpose for moving the railyard was initiated by Ishbia for private profit but can be defended very simply by claiming that it is also for a railroad purpose.

All my life as a Sox fan I came to understand and appreciate the significance of the historic location and the traditions of a team team located there for generations. Then in comes a guy who just bucked out of a deal to acquire the Twins and unilaterally decides to erase the identify and traditions and create something for his own profit, a location bereft of neighborhood and tradition, things that the oldest franchises would never consider throwing away. (The New Yankee stadium is in the Bronx..across the street from the old Yankee stadium..)

If you can't see the fact that these two are 100% working together on a common goal, it's because you do not want to see it. Jerry Reinsdorf is the one baseball in Chicago owner that has come the closest to actually moving the Chicago White Sox, and no one else. He didn't give a s%*# about 35th and Shield when he looked to move to Addison, when he looked to move to Florida, and the same hold true today. It means nothing to him. Quit trying to blame it on the new guy, who is continuing Jerry's work of the last 4 decades.

12 minutes ago, tray said:

Forget a new stadium for like 10 years and sign a star or two like Skubal or Sato. Focus on the team rather than personal wealth. Put your money where your mouth is b1tch.

It would be nice, but Jerry isn't going to spend no matter what you call him.

Reinsdorf decided he wanted a total monopoly over the Sox neighborhood...from the very beginning.

Or parking lots.

The reason those entertainment districts work in places like Atlanta or Wrigleyville is you have at least 20-35% investment from the private sector.

There's not going to be legitimate private interest in these type of investments without a reasonable expectation of profitability.

Sox are only a year or two removed from having the lowest net revenues in all of MLB...behind Miami Oakland and TB even.

Ishbia Brothers also reported to be only 40% owners of the team ATM...they don't possess the controlling shares either, so what exactly are they supposed to do here???

Edited Tuesday at 11:58 PM1 day by caulfield12

57 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

It would be nice, but Jerry isn't going to spend no matter what you call him.

WestEddy will argue 2006-2010, Adam Dunn, Cabrera/Robertson/Samardzija and then 2021-23.

Edited yesterday at 12:04 AM1 day by caulfield12

1 hour ago, tray said:

Ishbias have already made the decisions and no one has the resources or ability to stop them...even the Reinsdorfs. Oh yea, brother Justin said the decision to move the White Sox is Jerry's and Jerry's alone. What a wizeass. The factr is that Ishbias decided (prior to any notifications or deliberations with the White Sox, the ISFA, neighbors and concerned Sox fans) to shitcan the area around Sox park with a multi-story 24/7 RR repair facility on 35th street and a railyard boneyard between Cermak and 39th street.

The purpose for moving the railyard was initiated by Ishbia for private profit but can be defended very simply by claiming that it is also for a railroad purpose.

All my life as a Sox fan I came to understand and appreciate the significance of the historic location and the traditions of a team team located there for generations. Then in comes a guy who just bucked out of a deal to acquire the Twins and unilaterally decides to erase the identify and traditions and create something for his own profit, a location bereft of neighborhood and tradition, things that the oldest franchises would never consider throwing away. (The New Yankee stadium is in the Bronx..across the street from the old Yankee stadium..)

This guy is trolling us...right?

1 hour ago, BrittBurnsFan said:

This guy is trolling us...right?

The only way to find out is to not respond, sadly, which takes away from the entertainment.

21 hours ago, WBWSF said:

I'm told they are inviting select season ticket holders to the focus groups. I've been a season ticket holder since 1991. Perhaps they just forgot to invite me.

Perhaps they're looking for people a bit more youthful (no offense).

Not even Thanos Musk Zuck Bezos Ricketts Soros Bloomberg Thiel Ellisons can stop the Ishbias!!!

They are simultaneously invincible omniscient and irrepressible.

Edited yesterday at 05:00 AM1 day by caulfield12

14 hours ago, tray said:

Forget a new stadium for like 10 years and sign a star or two like Skubal or Sato. Focus on the team rather than personal wealth. Put your money where your mouth is b1tch.

Unfortunately, Jerry hasn’t sold the team yet so he is still responsible for the payroll this offseason.

13 hours ago, BrittBurnsFan said:

This guy is trolling us...right?

Yes

2 hours ago, ron883 said:

Yes

Takes one to know one 😉

15 hours ago, BrittBurnsFan said:

This guy is trolling us...right?

At first, I was sure he was just angry and bitter and perhaps scared because he really really really doesn't want the Sox to move to the South Loop and he's lashing out at Ishbia because, unlike Jerry, he actually has the wealth to make this happen.

But, I'm coming around to the idea that he's indeed just trolling us. I mean, much of the stuff he's spouting is so comically over the top and detached from facts that I think @ron883 is right....he's just playing us. And to be clear, fans can legitimately have the opinion that the Sox should stay at Rate Field or at least at the current site permanently and there are pros and cons to each option. But that's not what's going on here. It's just one angry gaslighting post after another with nothing insightful being said whatsoever. So, I'm leaning toward the "he's a troll" camp now.

Edited 23 hours ago23 hr by 77 Hitmen

4 hours ago, 77 Hitmen said:

So, I'm leaning toward the "he's a troll" camp now.

If that is the case, as with all trolling, how the f*** do you not have anything better to do?

On 11/2/2026 at 10:59 PM, WBWSF said:

I'm told they are inviting select season ticket holders to the focus groups. I've been a season ticket holder since 1991. Perhaps they just forgot to invite me.

18 hours ago, soxfan18 said:

Perhaps they're looking for people a bit more youthful (no offense).

Anyone who has been a season ticket holder since the current park opened will likely be at least pushing 70 by the time a new ballpark opens. I suspect that they're not handing out invites simply based on seniority, otherwise younger fans would be totally underrepresented.

The fact that he's even seeking input from a select group of fans is a good sign. But they're not going to be inviting every season ticket holder or everyone who feels that they're the "biggest Sox fan ever".

Whoever goes, I hope they provide some good feedback.

Edited 13 hours ago13 hr by 77 Hitmen

Having put together focus groups in the past, they’re likely selecting a cross-section from various walks of life - longtime season ticket holders, casual fans, young people, old people, DINKs, people with kids, . . . .

The goal is to get input from all potential sources of income and revenue, not just the loyal followers, so that you can understand how to maximize revenue and engagement in an informed way.

12 minutes ago, JoeC said:

Having put together focus groups in the past, they’re likely selecting a cross-section from various walks of life - longtime season ticket holders, casual fans, young people, old people, DINKs, people with kids, . . . .

The goal is to get input from all potential sources of income and revenue, not just the loyal followers, so that you can understand how to maximize revenue and engagement in an informed way.

It's definitely going to be biased towards those who mean the most to JR/Brooks Boyer financially....

Edited 16 hours ago16 hr by caulfield12

15 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

It's definitely going to be biased towards those who mean the most to JR/Brooks Boyer financially....

If they're smart they're trying to get real voices from all revenue streams - not just current financial partners.

23 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Reinsdorf decided he wanted a total monopoly over the Sox neighborhood...from the very beginning.

Or parking lots.

The reason those entertainment districts work in places like Atlanta or Wrigleyville is you have at least 20-35% investment from the private sector.

There's not going to be legitimate private interest in these type of investments without a reasonable expectation of profitability.

Sox are only a year or two removed from having the lowest net revenues in all of MLB...behind Miami Oakland and TB even.

Ishbia Brothers also reported to be only 40% owners of the team ATM...they don't possess the controlling shares either, so what exactly are they supposed to do here???

So why was/is there 'private interest' along 55th st and 47th st corridors? Moving forward, 33rd st. One is the University of Chicago, right, but the other two areas are the hood. Well they won't be for long.

On 11/3/2026 at 4:38 PM, tray said:

Ishbias have already made the decisions and no one has the resources or ability to stop them...even the Reinsdorfs. Oh yea, brother Justin said the decision to move the White Sox is Jerry's and Jerry's alone. What a wizeass. The factr is that Ishbias decided (prior to any notifications or deliberations with the White Sox, the ISFA, neighbors and concerned Sox fans) to shitcan the area around Sox park with a multi-story 24/7 RR repair facility on 35th street and a railyard boneyard between Cermak and 39th street.

The purpose for moving the railyard was initiated by Ishbia for private profit but can be defended very simply by claiming that it is also for a railroad purpose.

All my life as a Sox fan I came to understand and appreciate the significance of the historic location and the traditions of a team team located there for generations. Then in comes a guy who just bucked out of a deal to acquire the Twins and unilaterally decides to erase the identify and traditions and create something for his own profit, a location bereft of neighborhood and tradition, things that the oldest franchises would never consider throwing away. (The New Yankee stadium is in the Bronx..across the street from the old Yankee stadium..)

What history and tradition is there? Any nostalgia was lost when they moved across the street and failed to honor any history, tradition, success or facility improvement. Other than 2005 every season after 1917 is a failure. Wasn't this year only the second team to win a playoff series in 109 years?

59 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said:

What history and tradition is there? Any nostalgia was lost when they moved across the street and failed to honor any history, tradition, success or facility improvement. Other than 2005 every season after 1917 is a failure. Wasn't this year only the second team to win a playoff series in 109 years?

While I agree with your assessment...1993 was a fun year! And the Frank Thomas era (minus the first 2 months) was at NCP/USCF/GRP/RF (was it called a field or park???)...so it will show up a lot in White Sox history because of Frank highlights as well as the couple of highlights you point out!

15 hours ago, Sleepy Harold said:

Knowing full well that Jerry doesn't spend unless Sox fans spend, and that the Sox are effectively a small market team under his leadership, revenue like this is vital to taking a team from Point B to POint C.