WhiteSox2023 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 10 minutes ago, Green Line said: 4-9 years is a long time Im afraid that lots will happen in the meantime to make Ishiba think twice about pulling the trigger with the inept way this org is run Or that Jerry made a deal with the devil and never exits this earthly existence. Jerry may have watched all of the Final Destination movies and figured out how to cheat Death’s designs. 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Moooton Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 39 minutes ago, Green Line said: 4-9 years is a long time Im afraid that lots will happen in the meantime to make Ishiba think twice about pulling the trigger with the inept way this org is run You could also look at it like the more inept the org is prior to him taking over the easier it will be for him to be the hero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaleAleSox Posted June 6 Author Share Posted June 6 55 minutes ago, Green Line said: 4-9 years is a long time Im afraid that lots will happen in the meantime to make Ishiba think twice about pulling the trigger with the inept way this org is run Why would it matter if it’s ran ineptly now? He can change whatever he wants. He is obviously fine with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 3 hours ago, 77 Hitmen said: Yeah, it's mentioned in the Sun-Times article linked above. So, are not incorrect that it's been mentioned. I suppose they could build an entertainment district anywhere - The 78, around the existing park, or even at Michael Reese, but the first 2 sites at least are very well connected by L lines. The 78 is close to downtown, the current park is of course next to a nice residential area and by 2 L stops. Maybe someone can convince me otherwise, but I'm not sure how an entertainment district would thrive at the Michael Reese site. How easy is it to get to that site by mass transit if you aren't taking the Metra Electric or South Shore line? How is that site better than 35th and Shields? Basically, you have the King bus, and thats it. The 31 and the 4 are blocks away, and not exactly easily accessible on foot. I just don't see how a ballpark on the Reese site as any sort of improvement on the supposed issues at 35th & Shields. It is less accessible via transit, car, or on foot. Maybe 8-10 football games is viable, but not 81 dates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) JR last 🖕to fans with a 9 year expiration date! Meet the new boss, same as the old boss next decade. Sox fans are in baseball hell 🥱 Edited June 6 by Soxfest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 More columns, one being the "be careful what you wish for" variety. My response to the author was basically anything has got to be better than this regardless of what baggage the Ishbia's carry: https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2025/06/05/chicago-white-sox-owner-justin-ishbia-phoenix-suns-jerry-reinsdorf-mat-ishbia https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2025/06/05/white-sox-fans-hail-news-of-potential-team-sale-it-gives-us-a-little-bit-more-hope 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 8 minutes ago, Soxfest said: JR last 🖕to fans with a 9 year expiration date! Meet the new boss, same as the old boss next decade. 🥱 I'm willing to wager he's not around for the full nine years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 7 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: I'm willing to wager he's not around for the full nine years. You’re underestimating him making Sox fans miserable for as long as possible. It’s 50/50 IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 7 minutes ago, Soxfest said: You’re underestimating him making Sox fans miserable for as long as possible. It’s 50/50 IMO Not underestimating that at all, history shows that is his M.O. Just saying I don't think he'll be alive for the full nine years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 10 hours ago, soxfan18 said: No coincidence that 2033 is the 100th anniversary of the All Star Game. And to finish your thought for Sox fans unaware of aspects of Sox history, the Sox hosted the very 1st All Star Game and I believe are hosting the 100th Anniversary game. Where that will be in Chicago is anyone's guess. It's plenty of time to build that new stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) 10 hours ago, wegner said: The Pope and now This....what a season!!! Progress, not Perfection!!!! That's not coincidence ya know. Ever since Bob became Pope Leo things have been looking up . To quote my favorite Chicago movie, the Blues Brothers... "We're on a mission from God." Edited June 6 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Line Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 1 hour ago, PaleAleSox said: Why would it matter if it’s ran ineptly now? He can change whatever he wants. He is obviously fine with it. He's fine with it at the current time. He hasn't committed himself fully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 38 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: And to finish your thought for Sox fans unaware of aspects of Sox history, the Sox hosted the very 1st All Star Game and I believe are hosting the 100th Anniversary game. Where that will be in Chicago is anyone's guess. It's plenty of time to build that new stadium. 1933-2033 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 10 hours ago, Baron said: Well think of what he was trying to do in basketball. Attempting to throw as much money around as possible to get players but there's constraints in basketball that just don't let you do that. Unless MLB is implementing a salary cap anytime soon we could see them in a whole new section of the free agent market in short order. Knowing how MLB operates to favor the East Coast teams it wouldn't surprise me a bit that a salary cap is finally implemented just when Ishbia takes over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 10 hours ago, ptatc said: Yep. I think we'll see an all time low fir FA money this off season. For most teams. Unless you're the Dodgers or Steve Cohen who would love to buy while prices are suppressed even if they are paying out salary to players in a strike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 10 hours ago, fathom said: Yep a new stadium is way more important than trying to buy our way to 75 wins However you would like a new stadium to be finished while the team is trending towards a playoff appearance, even if I'm having trouble visualizing both of those things now. It's a little too much to wrap my head around at this moment of JRs reign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 17 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Unless you're the Dodgers or Steve Cohen who would love to buy while prices are suppressed even if they are paying out salary to players in a strike. The next market inefficiency. Having the financial wherewithal (and no debt or at least positive incoming cash flow guaranteed through other avenues) to hold out for 2-3 months and "corner the market" on free agents with below par value deals compared to any other "regular" or "normal" year of FA. It will be the Dodgers, Mets, Cubs (maybe?), Yankees, Red Sox (maybe?), Giants (from missing all their previous big targets like Aaron Judge and new determination w/ Buster Posey), Angels, Braves, Phillies, Rangers and Blue Jays (maybe?) that are the most aggressive teams here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) Edited June 6 by Chick Mercedes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 12 hours ago, Baron said: This is great news. 4 years isn't long and they'll have access to funds it sounds like. I'm expecting this ball club to atleast be alot better by 2027. Gotta believe access to funds also means control, effectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 7 hours ago, fathom said: Those quotes about Chicago are great This is fantastic - timing is great too. I want to see stadium deal announce at 79 or alternate site in Chicago by end of year with 29 opening date. Means we should see them spend in 28 offseason and maybe even in 27 offseason heading into 28 - so they are dialed in and excited for new stadium etc. Timing lines up well with rebuild cause him coming in now and spending massive money while exciting probably would be too soon to blow the wad - in another year / 2 - hopefully system continues to depend and major league roster has added some attractive pieces from system including some guys making it up this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 9 hours ago, fathom said: Big time in the red Didn't we all used to think that JR being the expert tax guy could always manipulate his books to pretty much always claim the Sox were losing money ? Isn't that part of his schtick as to why they could never land the big fish and echoed by the KW quote about not being able to give a guy a dollar if you only have 50 cents. I supposed things got worse post Covid but it's not like Covid hurt the Sox more than anyone else. The Sox contended for a few years after Covid but it collapsed quickly after locking up players who then took their health and newly signed wealth for granted along with JRs unwillingness to pay for a superstar and ignore development as always. Now we're at poverty level but JR has the money to invest in the 1901 project ? He's just doing everything he can to make his kids as rich as possible. He's stringing the Ishbia's along and giving fans a tiny bit of light at the end of the tunnel. Usually with JR that light is an oncoming train . I'll wait and see how this plays out before I get too excited. I'd be shocked if the Ishbia's put up a billion dollars for a stadium on the 78 unless they have full control 1st. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 (edited) 3 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Didn't we all used to think that JR being the expert tax guy could always manipulate his books to pretty much always claim the Sox were losing money ? Isn't that part of his schtick as to why they could never land the big fish and echoed by the KW quote about not being able to give a guy a dollar if you only have 50 cents. I supposed things got worse post Covid but it's not like Covid hurt the Sox more than anyone else. The Sox contended for a few years after Covid but it collapsed quickly after locking up players who then took their health and newly signed wealth for granted along with JRs unwillingness to pay for a superstar and ignore development as always. Now we're at poverty level but JR has the money to invest in the 1901 project ? He's just doing everything he can to make his kids as rich as possible. He's stringing the Ishbia's along and giving fans a tiny bit of light at the end of the tunnel. Usually with JR that light is an oncoming train . I'll wait and see how this plays out before I get too excited. I'd be shocked if the Ishbia's put up a billion dollars for a stadium on the 78 unless they have full control 1st. The two teams who have lost the most in RSN/broadcast revenues (by far) have been the Sox and Padres, compared to where things stood just two short years ago. Twins and Guardians are right up there, along with all the NL Central teams not named Cubs/Cardinals. The Coasts have won, basically...with very few exceptions like the two just mentioned. Edited June 6 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 11 hours ago, pcq said: This is not even news really. More like estate planning. I've heard this somewhere before 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 6 Share Posted June 6 33 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: The two teams who have lost the most in RSN/broadcast revenues (by far) have been the Sox and Padres, compared to where things stood just two short years ago. Twins and Guardians are right up there, along with all the AL Central teams not named Cubs/Cardinals. The Coasts have won, basically...with very few exceptions like the two just mentioned. So Ishbia's pull out of the Twins because they have too much debt but the Sox don't apparently. Doesn't sound to me like the Sox are in the red as much as some claim, including you who just said the Sox and Padres have lost the most ( by far) in RSN/ broadcast revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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