Kyyle23 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 Guys, it isn’t worth arguing with him. He has been doing the same dumb rope a dope game for 20 years. He lives in the past and has blinders on for the present and future 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 13 hours ago, Boopa1219 said: We’ve gotten so much smarter since then. Not to mention guys weren’t max effort and not everyone was throwing 95 How can you say we've gotten smarter when the few guys I mentioned (so many more, just check all star rosters in the 60s and 70s and 80s dominated? I think I read Mark B's arm hurt once in a while but it didn't matter. He excelled for 8-9 innings. Gary Peters said his arm hurt too sometimes. That's why we saw all those pictures of pitchers icing their arms. I think Koufax threw in pain too sometimes. Not always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 After the All-Star break I would like to see more pitching come up from the minors and more rotation with Meidroth and Sosa at second. It looks like Chase is wearing down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 12 hours ago, greg775 said: How can you say we've gotten smarter when the few guys I mentioned (so many more, just check all star rosters in the 60s and 70s and 80s dominated? I think I read Mark B's arm hurt once in a while but it didn't matter. He excelled for 8-9 innings. Gary Peters said his arm hurt too sometimes. That's why we saw all those pictures of pitchers icing their arms. I think Koufax threw in pain too sometimes. Not always. According to Jeff Torborg, Koukax ALWAYS threw in pain. In fact Jeff told me that Sandy was taking aspirin during games it was so bad. After the game he'd have to have his elbow packed in ice for an hour. Jeff couldn't believe he'd go out there every four days despite the pain. His elbow was arthritic which is why he had to retire prematurely after the 1966 season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 6 hours ago, Falstaff said: After the All-Star break I would like to see more pitching come up from the minors and more rotation with Meidroth and Sosa at second. It looks like Chase is wearing down. Do they have any? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 Regarding Vargas, Statcast would indicate he's been getting some horrific batted ball luck during the recent tough stretch. Not that Statcast says he deserves to be running a 1.000 OPS, but quality of contact would make you think you'd hardly call it a slump at all. I still like his swing decisions so I'm not super worried about him yet. Shane was having a lot of good luck in the early going, but to me the biggest thing that has changed is he's not getting much use out of his changeup. The results are worse than before and he's throwing it a lot less. The rest of his arsenal is generally unremarkable so he really needs that pitch. I don't know if the issue is that he's lost the feel for it or he's just foolishly giving up on it for some reason or another. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 16 hours ago, Falstaff said: It looks like Chase is wearing down. I should probably drop the topic but you really think Chase is wearing down? My gosh this isn't NFL football. If he's tired, take less BP. I get frustrated with how much ballplayers need rest. Cal Ripken needed no rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 (edited) 10 hours ago, Jake said: Regarding Vargas, Statcast would indicate he's been getting some horrific batted ball luck during the recent tough stretch. Not that Statcast says he deserves to be running a 1.000 OPS, but quality of contact would make you think you'd hardly call it a slump at all. I still like his swing decisions so I'm not super worried about him yet. Did Statcast also indicate that he was getting lucky during his insane hot streak? Luck balances out over time. .218 / .680. Luck or no luck, he’s not good on the season. Edited July 13 by WhiteSox2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 8 hours ago, greg775 said: I should probably drop the topic but you really think Chase is wearing down? My gosh this isn't NFL football. If he's tired, take less BP. I get frustrated with how much ballplayers need rest. Cal Ripken needed no rest. Look at his splits and the last 28 games have been rough at the plate. Wearing down can be physical but usually it's the mental side of the game that is the toughest to deal with. In the words of Yogi Berra, "Baseball is 90 percent mental, the other half is physical" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 2 hours ago, Falstaff said: Look at his splits and the last 28 games have been rough at the plate. Wearing down can be physical but usually it's the mental side of the game that is the toughest to deal with. In the words of Yogi Berra, "Baseball is 90 percent mental, the other half is physical" Meidroth's played 100, 110 and 120 games the previous 3 seasons. Why do we have a problem believing that the league can adjust to a rookie, and just pound him with the pitch type and location he's horrible against? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 13 Share Posted July 13 52 minutes ago, WestEddy said: Meidroth's played 100, 110 and 120 games the previous 3 seasons. Why do we have a problem believing that the league can adjust to a rookie, and just pound him with the pitch type and location he's horrible against? It's way better that he can't adjust to major pitching. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 11 hours ago, Falstaff said: Look at his splits and the last 28 games have been rough at the plate. Wearing down can be physical but usually it's the mental side of the game that is the toughest to deal with. In the words of Yogi Berra, "Baseball is 90 percent mental, the other half is physical" Makes sense. Falstaff by the way is the first beer I got drunk on. We southside kids in the summer between 8th grade and freshman year got somebody to buy us beer which scared the hell outta me when a friend asked somebody to buy for us. We buried the cans by a golf course where my friends caddied and went to them on a Friday night, dug up the beers and drank a 12 pack between 3-4 guys. Yes the beer was warm and gross but kids will be kids. Falstaff forever! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaff Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 10 hours ago, greg775 said: Makes sense. Falstaff by the way is the first beer I got drunk on. We southside kids in the summer between 8th grade and freshman year got somebody to buy us beer which scared the hell outta me when a friend asked somebody to buy for us. We buried the cans by a golf course where my friends caddied and went to them on a Friday night, dug up the beers and drank a 12 pack between 3-4 guys. Yes the beer was warm and gross but kids will be kids. Falstaff forever! great story!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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