southsider2k5 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 21 minutes ago, almagest said: I like to see they have an R&D group, and that they have input on later round picks. Wasn't the whole fight before that the quants were making picks instead of the scouts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 10 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Wasn't the whole fight before that the quants were making picks instead of the scouts? Under Hahn/Hostetler? I don't remember that ever coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: Wasn't the whole fight before that the quants were making picks instead of the scouts? The rumor is that Haber’s laptop was basically our Analytics department and he was overruling the scouting department at times. If you have a legit Analytics department, then their info should be part of the broader drafting process in unison with traditional scouting info. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 15 Author Share Posted July 15 39 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: The rumor is that Haber’s laptop was basically our Analytics department and he was overruling the scouting department at times. If you have a legit Analytics department, then their info should be part of the broader drafting process in unison with traditional scouting info. I was also under this impression. Harold pretty much said Haber was the reason for the Jacob Gonzalez pick as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 22 minutes ago, DirtySox said: I was also under this impression. Harold pretty much said Haber was the reason for the Jacob Gonzalez pick as well. Were the analytics Haber used for Gonzalez based on "which draft pick is going to end up being an immediate disappointment"? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 45 minutes ago, DirtySox said: I was also under this impression. Harold pretty much said Haber was the reason for the Jacob Gonzalez pick as well. Then why was he always swearing about quants? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 I really miss Harold. Was really helpful for me and informative. I think fucking losers on this site finally chased him away. It’s a real shame if so. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 15 Author Share Posted July 15 38 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I really miss Harold. Was really helpful for me and informative. I think fucking losers on this site finally chased him away. It’s a real shame if so. Yea same. Imagine chasing off an insider who routinely would feed the board tidbits on draft intel, trade info, and knowledge on the inner workings of the org. Shows how shitty and petty some of the posters here are. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted July 15 Share Posted July 15 I'm actually way more hyped for Jaden Fauske than anyone else we drafted, he just looks like he has his life together. dude is a competitive chess player too, as well as an elite HS player 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 (edited) 4 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I really miss Harold. Was really helpful for me and informative. I think fucking losers on this site finally chased him away. It’s a real shame if so. Maybe if he wasn't a Grade A jagoff people would have been nicer to him. Yeah it's nice to have an insider, but his attitude was off-putting. Looking at his posts, I think that dude who always talked about jeeps drove him my off. He thought he was getting doxxed or something. One of his last posts. I think he thought an admin was messing with him? Who knows. He was always a bit sensitive. On 6/11/2025 at 4:11 PM, Harold's Leg Lift said: Now I'm sure this dumbass piece of s%*# @admin ......I mean troll is trying to tell me something but for the life of me I still can't figure out what it is. Edited July 16 by ron883 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanut33tillman Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 4 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I really miss Harold. Was really helpful for me and informative. I think fucking losers on this site finally chased him away. It’s a real shame if so. I was just asking myself the other day where Harold had been since the draft was kind of his thing? Didn’t realize he h got chased off of here. That does suck, he had some interesting pieces of info he’d share which was cool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 4 hours ago, DirtySox said: Yea same. Imagine chasing off an insider who routinely would feed the board tidbits on draft intel, trade info, and knowledge on the inner workings of the org. Shows how shitty and petty some of the posters here are. And he wasn't the same? I would like to have him back, but the dude could dish it out but couldn't take it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 16 Author Share Posted July 16 (edited) 15 minutes ago, ron883 said: And he wasn't the same? I would like to have him back, but the dude could dish it out but couldn't take it. I feel like he had differing opinions from a lot of folks here largely skewed towards traditional scouting sensibilities, and he certainly dug his heels in on certain things, but he wasn't an aggressively toxic asshole or anything. He provided so much more value and insight than the bulk of the posters here who can do nothing but spout/parrot how terrible Getz is each and every day. Edited July 16 by DirtySox 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 35 minutes ago, ron883 said: Maybe if he wasn't a Grade A jagoff people would have been nicer to him. Yeah it's nice to have an insider, but his attitude was off-putting. Looking at his posts, I think that dude who always talked about jeeps drove him my off. He thought he was getting doxxed or something. One of his last posts. I think he thought an admin was messing with him? Who knows. He was always a bit sensitive. Mostly because he was a fan of Gtez. People really got on him when he said positive things about him. He did get defensive about it. Not that I blame him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Garrett Guest is high up at a Jeep Dealership and he’s Sox assistant director. People implied that Harold was Guest or at least knew him. It’s just fucking uncalled for regardless. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 59 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Garrett Guest is high up at a Jeep Dealership and he’s Sox assistant director. People implied that Harold was Guest or at least knew him. It’s just fucking uncalled for regardless. To be fair, I think it was that one guy who was an obvious troll. Maybe I missed others, but i saw that one new troll claim it. You can't let one single troll get to you. People could have treated him better, but the same can be said for him. The holier-than-thou attitude was off-putting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 17 minutes ago, ron883 said: To be fair, I think it was that one guy who was an obvious troll. Maybe I missed others, but i saw that one new troll claim it. You can't let one single troll get to you. People could have treated him better, but the same can be said for him. The holier-than-thou attitude was off-putting. It was more than one person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 2 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Garrett Guest is high up at a Jeep Dealership and he’s Sox assistant director. People implied that Harold was Guest or at least knew him. It’s just fucking uncalled for regardless. Echo that. Site is worse off without him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 17 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I really miss Harold. Was really helpful for me and informative. I think fucking losers on this site finally chased him away. It’s a real shame if so. I always loved hearing from Harold. I miss him every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 16 Author Share Posted July 16 (edited) Kiley's draft recap/analysis for the White Sox. Quote Chicago White Sox Best value: Gabe Davis (fifth round). He was tracking like a late first- or second-round pick entering the spring as a relief-to-starter conversion in his draft year. That didn't happen as he had trouble throwing strikes, connected to his 6-foot-9 frame. He has five average to slightly above pitches and some feel but might fit best in a multi-inning relief role. Quickest to the big leagues: Colby Shelton (sixth round). He turns 23 years old in December so he should be pushed aggressively, but he has also been productive offensively and defensively in the SEC for three seasons, hitting 52 homers in 170 games as a lefty-hitting shortstop. Sleeper to watch: Jaden Fauske (No. 44 overall). He had one of the better summers at the plate on the showcase circuit, has caught some in the past and was turning in above-average run times this spring, a few grades better than last summer. He didn't face much competition in the Illinois prep ranks but has a chance to be a quick-moving, polished high school bat with a shot for plus on-base and plus power output. One big thought: Billy Carlson (No. 10 overall), Fauske, and Kyle Lodise (No. 76 overall) are a nice group of position players who were good values at each pick. Landon Hodge (fourth round) is a lottery ticket and Anthony DePino (seventh round) has some of the better tools among college senior signees. I like drafts that have a position-player lean and seek some risk, but also add some likely big leaguers, which is what the White Sox did here. https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/45709418/mlb-draft-2025-kiley-mcdaniel-recap-analysis-all-30-teams#chw Edited July 16 by DirtySox 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 33 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Kiley's draft recap/analysis for the White Sox. https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/45709418/mlb-draft-2025-kiley-mcdaniel-recap-analysis-all-30-teams#chw Yea this is what it felt like, a draft very aligned to probabilities. Feels like we’ve been taking big swings too often and really can’t given our lack of extra picks/ miney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 (edited) Jackson Nove (@jackson_nove) is signing with the Chicago White Sox. Congrats, Jackson! pic.twitter.com/SgzvO1vK8S — Kentucky Baseball (@UKBaseball) July 15, 2025 Edited July 16 by WestEddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 I spoke with James Taussig and he informed me that he will be signing an undrafted free agent deal with the Chicago White Sox! — Dan Nerdahl (@AlamoABB_Dan) July 16, 2025 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestEddy Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 (edited) "Massive power bat" is nice. James Taussig College & Amateur Leagues Statistics | Baseball-Reference.com More updates to the Free Agent Signing Tracker: * @UTSABSB's James Taussig signs with the @whitesox. That's a massive power bat for the Sox. * @UIBaseball C Daniel Rogers signs with the @SFGiants. * @GoNUbaseball C Greg Bozzo signs with the @Yankees. UPDATED:… — Kendall Rogers (@KendallRogers) July 16, 2025 Edited July 16 by WestEddy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 18 Author Share Posted July 18 (edited) Law's draft review for the White Sox. Quote The White Sox had a really strong draft this year, going for higher upside position players in the first four rounds. They landed defensive wizard Billy Carlson (1), the shortstop for powerhouse Corona High School in Southern California. He’s a 70 defender with an arm to match, and he has plus raw power with projection remaining on his frame as well. He bars his lead arm, leading to timing issues at the plate and some inconsistency in his contact quality; it’s not an easy fix but it is fixable. If the White Sox loosen him up so that he can both get to the power more predictably and is no longer so vulnerable to changing speeds, he could be a superstar who produces on both sides of the ball. Local Illinois product Jaden Fauske (2) is a left-handed hitting center fielder who also caught once or twice a week this spring, although the outfield is his clear destination. There’s at least 55 raw power here, but in games he changes his approach, shortening up for more contact and going the other way on some pitches he might be able to pull. He’s a 55ish runner and should at least start out in center. If he signs under slot, that would be a Fauskeian bargain. Georgia Tech shortstop Kyle Lodise (3) has above-average power and can hit a fastball, with some swing and miss on offspeed stuff, enough to see him as maybe a 20-homer, low-OBP regular. He’s going to move to second as he doesn’t have the arm for the left side. Southern California prep catcher Landon Hodge (4) is committed to LSU, like Fauske, and he is going to stay behind the plate, with a plus arm and plenty of athleticism to handle the position. He has a handsy approach that doesn’t use his legs enough and he shows just average bat speed. He could have average power if the White Sox can get him to use his lower half more and stay back better on the ball. Oklahoma State right-hander Gabe Davis (5) is 6-foot-9 and can pitch at 93-97 as a starter with an average slider, but he’s been hurt constantly due to on- and off-field injuries, with a shoulder problem holding him to 24 ineffective innings this spring. He would have easily been a Day 1 pick had he stayed healthy. Florida infielder Colby Shelton (6) is a junior but is already 22-and-a-half. He’s coming off a big year for the Gators where he hit .377/.458/.606 before a broken hamate bone ended his season. He has plus power but it’s a 45 or 40 hit tool, and he’s going to move off shortstop, probably to second base. It’s a really good pick in this spot. Ohio State right-hander Blaine Wynk (8) has been up to 98 but was hurt most of the spring and did not perform at all when he could pitch. He threw 8 2/3 innings, walked nine, allowed 15 hits and 16 runs, and struck out 13 (25.5 percent). https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/6500452/2025/07/18/al-central-draft-grades-picks-mlb-2025/?source=emp_shared_article Edited July 18 by DirtySox 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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