Tony Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 11 minutes ago, nrockway said: Ok so prove it then, Tony. Write a thoughtful post, "global moderator", not one line of s%*# talk. Set the tone for your website. David Stearns v Chris Getz is a genuine line of discussion and this is your response. Thinking people might find it interesting. Illiterate perspective and surprising. 1. A lot of words doesn’t make it a “thoughtful” post. In this case, it gave you more of an opportunity to say things that were rooted in craziness. 2. I’ll make it easy. Say MLB decided to shake things up, and said every team is getting a new GM. Each team submits a list of 5 GM’s they want, any team can select any executive they want. How many lists does Stearns make, how many does Getz make? The guy that was the GM for 4 straight playoff appearances for the Brewers and a .536 winning percentage? Or the guy currently rocking a .293 winning percentage and currently holds the distinction of being the GM behind the worst team of all-time? And to be clear, YOU made the comparison of Stearns vs. Getz. Not sure what measurement system you’re using to evaluate GM performance. I’d say I’d love to hear it, but that would be a lie. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Where the Big 3 pitchers are now compared to coming into the season has to be a pretty significant concern to any objective Sox fan. And the argument a year ago was taking Cags over Smith and had/has nothing to do with Colson's well-chronicled ups and downs. Just as big a concern is that the supposed niche advantage presented by the tandem of Quero and Teel has not exactly turned out that way... Finally, Vargas and Teel would both need to hit for at least an 800-825 ops to be legit firstbasemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrockway Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: I'm happy that you like watching the worst sox teams in history back to back years but some of us dont actually enjoy that at all. Hope that helps. slow-witted. somebody explain the logic to me: you hate watching this team but post about them on the forum every day. stockholm syndrome? I prefer forum-posting to TV-watching personally. Like, bud, watch something else. there's 1000 channels. Edited July 14 by nrockway 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 We might as well argue Balt's Elias is worse than Getz too...or the Braves' organization in their current struggles. At least we don't have to argue Andrew Freidman or the Brewers' current front office vs. Getz, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 10 minutes ago, nrockway said: slow-witted. somebody explain the logic to me: you hate watching this team but post about them on the forum every day. stockholm syndrome? I prefer forum-posting to TV-watching personally. I haven't watched more than 3 games this year. I post about them because I follow the team still and have been a fan my entire life. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 11 minutes ago, nrockway said: slow-witted. somebody explain the logic to me: you hate watching this team but post about them on the forum every day. stockholm syndrome? I prefer forum-posting to TV-watching personally. Like, bud, watch something else. there's 1000 channels. If you want "feel good," there's always Owen Wilson's "Stick," Kpop water bomb or the latest iteration of Superman that hit theatres Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 I laughed when I saw the title of this because I knew this discussion wouldn't be rational at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 45 minutes ago, nrockway said: Ok so prove it then, Tony. Write a thoughtful post, "global moderator", not one line of s%*# talk. Set the tone for your website. David Stearns v Chris Getz is a genuine line of discussion and this is your response. Thinking people might find it interesting. Illiterate perspective and surprising. I don't know why people think site administrators aren't allowed to have their own opinions, but typically tone is answered with tone here. When your post starts off by mocking everyone you disagree with, I sure don't find Tony's response as out of line. Honestly with a meltdown like that, you could have gotten way worse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 26 minutes ago, nrockway said: slow-witted. somebody explain the logic to me: you hate watching this team but post about them on the forum every day. stockholm syndrome? I prefer forum-posting to TV-watching personally. Like, bud, watch something else. there's 1000 channels. Explain to me how you hate people's posts, but you continue to interact with them. You see it, right? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 Sign Josh Naylor and Kyle Tucker this off season' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) Even if you imagine that Carson is the next Elvis Andrus (which would be a massive success at that point in the draft)...they're still at least 3-4 legit middle of the order hitters away from contention offensively. One hopefully is Braden Montgomery. Bonemer may or may not be another. Feels like this has been reiterated about 10,000+ times already, but it is what it is. Edited July 14 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 32 minutes ago, WBWSF said: Sign Josh Naylor and Kyle Tucker this off season' 😆😆😆😆😆 With the upcoming labor impasse you'll be lucky if JR doesn't order another team payroll reduction this off season. Getz will be allowed to sign a few more retreads, stiffs, injury prone, over the hill guys to fill out the roster. You'll get nothing and like it! 😉 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 43 minutes ago, WBWSF said: Sign Josh Naylor and Kyle Tucker this off season' How about Bo Naylor and Tucker Barnhart? That's more Getzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 32 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said: 😆😆😆😆😆 With the upcoming labor impasse you'll be lucky if JR doesn't order another team payroll reduction this off season. Getz will be allowed to sign a few more retreads, stiffs, injury prone, over the hill guys to fill out the roster. You'll get nothing and like it! 😉 All I know is that this team needs at least 2 real good hitters. If that isn't done this off season, 2026 is going to be another lost season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) 4 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said: yes that 59 team is still my favorite Sox team of all time. What was the atmosphere in Comiskey back then? Did many male fans wear suit and tie? And did the women get all dressed up? Did the men wear hats like in the old footage? Did fans complain as much as today? I'll say this. Aside from postseason 05 the atmosphere in Comiskey was most magical (in the history of the old yard) in 77 with the South Side Hit Men. Amazingly it was the true Summer of Love. Fans would hi five each other, hug as the Sox battered the baseball all over the park and over the fence. Even Gamble, Spencer, Soderholm, Bannister probably all had career highs in homers that year or bullets banging off the wall. ... Amazingly that team, which had no defense of course, completely got bulldozed by Hal McRae and the Royals down the stretch and finished a zillion games out after leading the division all June and July into early August when the kids went back to school. If life could be as joyous as the summer of 77 everybody would be on Cloud Nine in Chicago. And who better than Harry Caray to call the games in 77? Bill Veeck forever. He better be in the Hall of Fame. He should be. Edited July 14 by greg775 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said: 😆😆😆😆😆 With the upcoming labor impasse ... What the heck do the players want now? Geez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 3 hours ago, tray said: LOL. Jerry is merely a 90 year old figurehead that has ceded future control to Ishbia. You want to blame JR ....except for the 90's Bulls, the '83 WSox, the 2005 World Series. Bad timing for you on the 20 year WS reunion week. Is this a serious post? Jerry is one of the worst owners in all of sports even if he lucked into Michael Jordan. Meanwhile, you refuse to give Ishbia a shot at being a successful owner before even gained control because he’s a private equity guy… 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 hours ago, nrockway said: Ok so prove it then, Tony. Write a thoughtful post, "global moderator", not one line of s%*# talk. Set the tone for your website. David Stearns v Chris Getz is a genuine line of discussion and this is your response. Thinking people might find it interesting. Illiterate perspective and surprising. How is it a genuine line of discussion? There is no comparison between the two GMs. One of them has had success and it isn’t Getz. Google AI will answer your ridiculous comparison for you… “AI Overview David Stearns, now the New York Mets' president of baseball operations, has a strong track record of success in MLB. He is known for his ability to build competitive teams, especially with the Milwaukee Brewers, where he oversaw a period of significant improvement and playoff appearances. Here's a breakdown of his achievements: Milwaukee Brewers (2015-2022): Youngest General Manager: Stearns became the youngest general manager in MLB history when he took over the Brewers in 2015 at the age of 30. Playoff Appearances: Under Stearns, the Brewers reached the playoffs five times between 2017 and 2021, a franchise record. Division Titles: They won the NL Central Division in 2018 and 2021. NLCS Appearance: In 2018, the Brewers made it to the National League Championship Series (NLCS). Organizational Improvements: Stearns focused on developing talent within the Brewers' farm system and made strategic acquisitions to improve the team's competitiveness. Key Moves and Strategies: Trades: Stearns was known for making impactful trades, such as acquiring Christian Yelich and Lorenzo Cain, who played crucial roles in the Brewers' success. Prospect Development: He emphasized developing top-end pitching and building a strong farm system. Strategic Acquisitions: Stearns was adept at acquiring players who could contribute both in the present and the future. New York Mets (Current): Transition to President of Baseball Operations: Stearns transitioned to the Mets in 2023, taking on the role of president of baseball operations. Focus on Building a Winner: He is tasked with building the Mets into a consistent winner, drawing on his experience with the Brewers. Overall: David Stearns' career demonstrates a strong ability to build successful baseball organizations, particularly through player development, strategic acquisitions, and a focus on long-term competitiveness.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 4 hours ago, tray said: LOL. Jerry is merely a 90 year old figurehead that has ceded future control to Ishbia. You want to blame JR ....except for the 90's Bulls, the '83 WSox, the 2005 World Series. Bad timing for you on the 20 year WS reunion week. 1 world championship in 44 years is a helluva flex. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 This is going to be a long long rebuild. There’s not much hitting talent above low A ball. Braden Montgomery, Antonacci, and hopefully Zavala are about it. I suppose you could hope for Jacob Gonzalez or William Bergolla, but if either of those guys is an every day player, something has gone terribly wrong with Colson Montgomery (not entirely unlikely). The good news is the Sox have Bonemer, Mogollon, Wolkow, Ronny Hernandez, and maybe Nunez at Kanny Gil, Steven Flores, and maybe Cristian Gonzalez in the ACL plus Mieses, Herrera, Soto, and Cruz in the DSL. You add Fauske and Carlson, suddenly they have a fair number of teenage hitters who may be able to move up the system together. It’s a long shot, but there’s some offensive ceiling at least. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 2 hours ago, WBWSF said: All I know is that this team needs at least 2 real good hitters. If that isn't done this off season, 2026 is going to be another lost season. I hate to break this to you but you can pretty much plan on it being a lost season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 (edited) 1 hour ago, greg775 said: What the heck do the players want now? Geez. The players want nothing, Manfred and the owners of the Orioles and Yankees (LOL) have already gone public with the desire for a salary cap. The expectation is as Ken Rosenthal and others have reported that very soon after the 2026 season ends the owners will lock out the players and demand a cap be put in place. The MLBPA has already gone on record as saying that will never happen. They will never agree to a cap. You can draw your own conclusions. Edited July 14 by Lip Man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 1 hour ago, greg775 said: What was the atmosphere in Comiskey back then? Did many male fans wear suit and tie? And did the women get all dressed up? Did the men wear hats like in the old footage? Did fans complain as much as today? I'll say this. Aside from postseason 05 the atmosphere in Comiskey was most magical (in the history of the old yard) in 77 with the South Side Hit Men. Amazingly it was the true Summer of Love. Fans would hi five each other, hug as the Sox battered the baseball all over the park and over the fence. Even Gamble, Spencer, Soderholm, Bannister probably all had career highs in homers that year or bullets banging off the wall. ... Amazingly that team, which had no defense of course, completely got bulldozed by Hal McRae and the Royals down the stretch and finished a zillion games out after leading the division all June and July into early August when the kids went back to school. If life could be as joyous as the summer of 77 everybody would be on Cloud Nine in Chicago. And who better than Harry Caray to call the games in 77? Bill Veeck forever. He better be in the Hall of Fame. He should be. Bill Veeck was inducted into the Hall of Fame on July 22, 1991. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 I think the cold and damp weather in the first two months did not help the players. For fans this has to be one of the worst weather years to go to games in memory....either too cold or rainy. It makes me think that a retractable dome stadium would be a great idea - especially if they can barter with the Park District for some area with a view of Lake Michigan. Think outside the box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSox2023 Posted July 14 Share Posted July 14 5 hours ago, WBWSF said: All I know is that this team needs at least 2 real good hitters. If that isn't done this off season, 2026 is going to be another lost season. Prepare for some reruns… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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