6 straight, straight trash

Just now, joejoesox said:

6 straight, straight trash

So frustrating that they could only trade two guys.

So disheartening.

The real progress of this season boils down to Rule 5:  Shane Smith and Vasil (indirectly).  I guess Colson too, especially considering that it looked like he could be a bust.
Not a lot.

10 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

So disheartening.

The real progress of this season boils down to Rule 5:  Shane Smith and Vasil (indirectly).  I guess Colson too, especially considering that it looked like he could be a bust.
Not a lot.

I will add Meidroth.  He was a secondary prospect and, if nothing else, can play major league SS.  Quero and Teel are okay, but they were touted prospects; same with Taylor and they have him in the pen.

And when oh when will a Getz Waiver Wire position player special (whether claimed or traded for) amount to anything?  There sure have been a lot of them.

19 minutes ago, fathom said:

So frustrating that they could only trade two guys.

Biggest fail.  I guess Robert back for next year is at least a saving grace.

Ozzie’s meeting Paul Simon story…  GOAT.

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Offense has disappeared 

Just now, Soxfest said:

Offense has disappeared 

We’re missing Vargas’s bat…

🤣🤣🤣

8 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

We’re missing Vargas’s bat…

🤣🤣🤣

I mean…they are. Even when he isn’t hitting he is still giving quality at bats and making the pitcher work. 

Taylor with the home run to avoid a shutout....for today he has been upgraded from harmless to mostly harmless. 

It's the mark of a bad team. When they score runs they can't pitch, when they pitch well they can't score. And they have issues on defense and with fundamentals constantly.

Here's a mind blower, tonight was the 17th time the Sox lost a game despite holding an opponent to three runs or less.

That's wasting some pretty good pitching at times. 

3 hours ago, oldsox said:

I think you got 'em all.

You missed Latman.

The impact of those deals wasn't really felt until the mid 60's when the Sox with even one of those power hitters in the lineup may have won the pennant in 1964 and 1967.

They tried very hard to get Callison back in 1962 and also made a better offer to the Reds for Frank Robinson than the Orioles did according to Eddie Stanky. On the day Hawk Harrelson was released by the A's, Ed Short called him in his hotel room in Baltimore and offered a flat 100,000 dollar contract. Take it or leave it. Hawk in his biography felt he was being rushed and wanted time to think. A few hours later the Red Sox called, flew down to meet him, offered 118,000 and he took it.

They also made attempts to get Carl Yastrzemski who played at Notre Dame but things never worked out. 

And ironically Veeck first tried to get power hitters before the 1960 season in people like Orlando Cepeda and Bill White but was turned down. The people he brought in Minoso, Freese and Sievers actually carried the team.

It was the mainstays...Aparicio, Fox, Landis, Wynn and Pierce who all had below average seasons.  

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1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Are the Rockies on the schedule again yet?  Getz’s clown car team can’t win unless they face garbage teams.

Maybe Rockies fans are asking the same thing

The Tigers are probably looking forward to the Sox ending their skid

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4 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said:

Yep, Frank Lane and Chuck Comiskey were the architects of those Go Go years.
Those trades of Cash, Battey, Callison, Romano and Mincher by Veeck will live in infamy. Despite those trades, new GM Ed Short after Veeck sold to Arthur Allyn made some great trades and the Sox had their 3 best consecutive years ever in 63, 64 and 65 winning 94, 98 and 95 games those 3 years.

I’ve always wondered what would have happened if Dorothy Rigney had sold to her shares to brother Chuck instead of to Veeck. Eventually my guess is Comiskey who wasn’t very wealthy probably would have sold by the time free agency came around. 

I've wondered what would have happened if Dorothy Rigney had sold to Charlie Finley instead of Veeck. Finley actually offered Rigney more money than Veeck did.

4 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said:

Maybe Bill Veeck wasn’t all that popular, quite of few there tonight probably never heard of him.

The younger people don't know who Veeck was. The  older fans weren't exactly fond of Veeck The only reason I went was because I collect the bobbleheads.

4 hours ago, fathom said:

attendance is dismal for a bobblehead Saturday night game

I thought the Veeck promotion was strange. Veeck hadn't owned the team since 1980. After he sold the team he spent all of his baseball  viewing at Wrigley Field.  I don't think he went to one White Sox game the rest of his life after he sold the team. The White Sox promoted this event relentlessly the last few weeks which tells me most White Sox fans didn't care about Veeck. They might have had a bigger crowd if they staged a Disco Demolition Night Part 2.

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Not following a team that scores one run per game. Time for football. 

3 hours ago, GreenSox said:

I will add Meidroth.  He was a secondary prospect and, if nothing else, can play major league SS.  Quero and Teel are okay, but they were touted prospects; same with Taylor and they have him in the pen.

And when oh when will a Getz Waiver Wire position player special (whether claimed or traded for) amount to anything?  There sure have been a lot of them.

its interesting that i read often here that Meidroth is an SS / Can play SS or is an above average SS

Jim Callis at MLB says he isn't good at SS and isn't a long term option at SS

interesting

15 hours ago, Lip Man 1 said:

You missed Latman.

The impact of those deals wasn't really felt until the mid 60's when the Sox with even one of those power hitters in the lineup may have won the pennant in 1964 and 1967.

They tried very hard to get Callison back in 1962 and also made a better offer to the Reds for Frank Robinson than the Orioles did according to Eddie Stanky. On the day Hawk Harrelson was released by the A's, Ed Short called him in his hotel room in Baltimore and offered a flat 100,000 dollar contract. Take it or leave it. Hawk in his biography felt he was being rushed and wanted time to think. A few hours later the Red Sox called, flew down to meet him, offered 118,000 and he took it.

They also made attempts to get Carl Yastrzemski who played at Notre Dame but things never worked out. 

And ironically Veeck first tried to get power hitters before the 1960 season in people like Orlando Cepeda and Bill White but was turned down. The people he brought in Minoso, Freese and Sievers actually carried the team.

It was the mainstays...Aparicio, Fox, Landis, Wynn and Pierce who all had below average seasons.  

You are correct, Minoso and Sievers both had a very good 1960 but that was Minoso’s last good year, both Minnie and Sievers were traded after the 1961 season. Freese had a decent 1960 but was a horrible 3rd baseman and was traded after the season for Juan Pizarro who gave the Sox some good years, the joke about Freese was that the fans sitting in the low boxes beyond first baseman were in grave danger from all his bad throws and they needed to wear batting helmets. I liked Barry Latman and after he was traded for Herb Score went on to have a mediocre career finishing with a career losing record but he might have done better with the Sox and getting Score was a wishing and hoping trade as Score was never the same pitcher after getting hit in the head by a line drive off the bat of Gil McDougald in 1957.

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12 hours ago, oldsox said:

I think you got 'em all.

After which they disposed of local pitcher Denny McLain under Art Allyn. 

4 minutes ago, pcq said:

After which they disposed of local pitcher Denny McLain under Art Allyn. 

Oh, yeah.  Not a trade, they just cut him.  Stupid Bonus Baby rules back then. They kept another bonus baby named Bruce Howard; The White Sox just keep stepping on their dicks.

11 hours ago, WBWSF said:

The younger people don't know who Veeck was. The  older fans weren't exactly fond of Veeck The only reason I went was because I collect the bobbleheads.

I think in general these generations care more about the results on the field.

10 hours ago, joejoesox said:

its interesting that i read often here that Meidroth is an SS / Can play SS or is an above average SS

Jim Callis at MLB says he isn't good at SS and isn't a long term option at SS

interesting

Fangraphs says otherwise.  As does Baseball Reference. As does Law.  

5 minutes ago, GreenSox said:

Fangraphs says otherwise.  As does Baseball Reference. As does Law.  

His arm is not good for that side of the IF more than anything. 

12 hours ago, WBWSF said:

I thought the Veeck promotion was strange. Veeck hadn't owned the team since 1980. After he sold the team he spent all of his baseball  viewing at Wrigley Field.  I don't think he went to one White Sox game the rest of his life after he sold the team. The White Sox promoted this event relentlessly the last few weeks which tells me most White Sox fans didn't care about Veeck. They might have had a bigger crowd if they staged a Disco Demolition Night Part 2.

Incorrect, he did.