13 hours ago, joejoesox said:

Murakami vs Ohtani 2026 statcast

Murakami

Ohtani

That exit velo is up there with Cruz and Judge.

Mune still making front pages even with Shohei's on base streak as competition.

Lots of Sox specific context; they talked to Brooke Fletcher and Merkin about Mune's results so far, his work ethic/personality, fan engagement, etc. Merk compared him to Abreu, hence his picture there.

I know it is very early, but what do people here think the mostly outcome is for how long Murakami with be on the White Sox:

Less than 2 years?

2 years?

More than 2 years?

2 minutes ago, wegner said:

I know it is very early, but what do people here think the mostly outcome is for how long Murakami with be on the White Sox:

Less than 2 years?

2 years?

More than 2 years?

Less than two years, hopefully. It means he was successful and we dealt him to load up.

50 minutes ago, wegner said:

I know it is very early, but what do people here think the mostly outcome is for how long Murakami with be on the White Sox:

Less than 2 years?

2 years?

More than 2 years?

the rebuild of the rebiuld rebuild

52 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

Less than two years, hopefully. It means he was successful and we dealt him to load up.

Can you help me understand why it would be a good thing to trade a 26 year old who is mashing and successful?

This obsession with trading for more assets has become a disease.

8 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Can you help me understand why it would be a good thing to trade a 26 year old who is mashing and successful?

This obsession with trading for more assets has become a disease.

Because Jerry won’t pay him. Are you new here?

1 hour ago, wegner said:

I know it is very early, but what do people here think the mostly outcome is for how long Murakami with be on the White Sox:

Less than 2 years?

2 years?

More than 2 years?

More than 2 years, I think they pay him (for a number of reasons, some more telegraphed than others)

9 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

More than 2 years, I think they pay him (for a number of reasons, some more telegraphed than others)

Getting a chunk of the Japanese fan base would be fantastic.

I can see any possibility happening with the looming lockout causing even more uncertainty.

He's young enough that I would hope they extend his time here if he is successful and the Japanese fan base can only help but I do understand the Jerry factor of course.

33 minutes ago, wegner said:

I can see any possibility happening with the looming lockout causing even more uncertainty.

He's young enough that I would hope they extend his time here if he is successful and the Japanese fan base can only help but I do understand the Jerry factor of course.

They don't get a slice of the Japanese tv market as its currently indirect and shared.

Don't have the naming rights or Jersey patch to offer.

The two year term limit on his deal will limit any long term corporate/sponsorship commitments.

The main effect has been young position players getting locked down, but the 1-1 pick and Murakami, maybe Teel or Colson, are pretty much the only candidates.

Braden and or Bonemer would be next.

Edited yesterday at 01:17 AM1 day by caulfield12

47 minutes ago, ron883 said:

Getting a chunk of the Japanese fan base would be fantastic.

Boyer on Mune's impact there (emphasis mine):

No doubt there’s been an impact. We’ve seen it since [Murakami] signing in our ticket sales and interest in sponsorship from companies in Japan. Never had an opportunity to do this before with actively working with Japanese companies, getting this level of exposure into their country.

We know our games will be broadcast into Japan. That helps us build on that momentum. Obviously, Japan is big on the Dodgers because of Shohei, Yamamoto, and Sasaki there. But Mune is a very popular player. We’re the next team to be able to try and capture the hearts, minds of an entire country.

He also talks about consulting with their AZ neighbor Dodgers and Chicago neighbor Cubs for contacts on building out those Japanese connections, and the prospect of Mune as a White Sox in a future Tokyo series.

Landing him was a stroke of luck, but now that they have him I think the goal is something more than a short term flip.

3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said:

Less than two years, hopefully. It means he was successful and we dealt him to load up.

Trading him would kill any chance of them signing a player from Japan ever again. They need to pay him and keep him around.

3 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Can you help me understand why it would be a good thing to trade a 26 year old who is mashing and successful?

This obsession with trading for more assets has become a disease.

If he makes it clear he won't sign an extension and wants to test the market then you need to get some good assets in a trade.

3 hours ago, wegner said:

I know it is very early, but what do people here think the mostly outcome is for how long Murakami with be on the White Sox:

Less than 2 years?

2 years?

More than 2 years?

If JR is still in charge (and assuming they are actually playing baseball) he'll be traded next July 2027.

If Ishbia has taken over there is a realistic chance they work out a new extended deal.

It's that simple.

Edited yesterday at 02:50 AM1 day by Lip Man 1

5 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said:

Trading him would kill any chance of them signing a player from Japan ever again. They need to pay him and keep him around.

Feel free to explain that to JR if he is still in charge.

2 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Feel free to explain that to JR if he is still in charge.

Ishbia would likely be on the hook for the vast majority of a hypothetical Murakami extension anyway. If Jerry refuses to sign off on that, then we are doomed anyway.

Or a heavily deferred deal like Ohtani's

8 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Or a heavily deferred deal like Ohtani's

Pay him until the year 2100, like Bobby Bonilla.

3 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said:

Ishbia would likely be on the hook for the vast majority of a hypothetical Murakami extension anyway. If Jerry refuses to sign off on that, then we are doomed anyway.

Also...they have to pay someone lol. Essentially everyone else we can pencil in for 2028 and beyond will be pre-arb, and they aren't going to run a $30m payroll.

If Mune keeps it up, I don't think there's a better bang for your buck FA bat available in 2028 who would also be a timeline fit for the Montgomerys, Roch, and co. And though he's skeptical of FA pitching, we've seen Jerry pay a popular 1B even without the unique Japan market element at play.

There's also just not a natural window to get some crazy trade haul. It won't be this deadline, the labor situation makes the offseason uncertain, and who is emptying the farm for him in the middle of a potentially abbreviated season? What do you get in return that's worth the reputational cost both to a market they want to appeal to and a fanbase who will want to watch him and Roch in September?

I guess they'll have no choice if he makes it clear he won't stay, but nothing I've learned about him makes that seem particularly likely. Or if everything collapses around him to the extent that there's 6 other holes to fill, but in that case they're indeed doomed anyway.

20 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

Also...they have to pay someone lol. Essentially everyone else we can pencil in for 2028 and beyond will be pre-arb, and they aren't going to run a $30m payroll.

If Mune keeps it up, I don't think there's a better bang for your buck FA bat available in 2028 who would also be a timeline fit for the Montgomerys, Roch, and co. And though he's skeptical of FA pitching, we've seen Jerry pay a popular 1B even without the unique Japan market element at play.

There's also just not a natural window to get some crazy trade haul. It won't be this deadline, the labor situation makes the offseason uncertain, and who is emptying the farm for him in the middle of a potentially abbreviated season? What do you get in return that's worth the reputational cost both to a market they want to appeal to and a fanbase who will want to watch him and Roch in September?

I guess they'll have no choice if he makes it clear he won't stay, but nothing I've learned about him makes that seem particularly likely. Or if everything collapses around him to the extent that there's 6 other holes to fill, but in that case they're indeed doomed anyway.

Freddie Freeman will be 38 years old and a free agent after the 2027 season. They could also opt not to pick up Muncy’s 2028 option. That could leave their corner infield open. The Dodgers will be the perfect fit, and regardless of Ishbia supposedly chipping in or not, the Sox won’t be beating them in the free agency game if LA wants another Japanese player to take over 1B for them. We already saw his buddy Ohtani helping him with his swing during the WBC. Murakami would have to more than likely want to stay with the Sox and accept a hometown discount. Sure, the Sox will have money to spend but they have to be willing to spend it, while also facing competing [higher] offers. And I have only named one team in the Dodgers that could have interest.

Let’s be honest, anyone that has high hopes of Murakami staying is simply wishcasting.

Edited yesterday at 04:12 AM1 day by WhiteSox2023

2 hours ago, SoCalChiSox said:

If he makes it clear he won't sign an extension and wants to test the market then you need to get some good assets in a trade.

I agree - but I think I’m going to bet he is here more than 2 years. If he is legit - she fits into a rebuild and can be a big global draw and might even mean we add another international player or two on free agent market in Ishibia influenced world.

1 hour ago, Chisoxfn said:

I agree - but I think I’m going to bet he is here more than 2 years. If he is legit - she fits into a rebuild and can be a big global draw and might even mean we add another international player or two on free agent market in Ishibia influenced world.

Sato to play 3B/RF

13 hours ago, wegner said:

I know it is very early, but what do people here think the mostly outcome is for how long Murakami with be on the White Sox:

Less than 2 years?

2 years?

More than 2 years?

Kind of think he becomes our first $100 million signing. Multitude of reasons but also the fact that he brings in revenue like few other players can.

We give Getz crap but not only is this his best signing but it may prove to be the best free agent signing of the off season from any team.

10 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Freddie Freeman will be 38 years old and a free agent after the 2027 season. They could also opt not to pick up Muncy’s 2028 option. That could leave their corner infield open. The Dodgers will be the perfect fit, and regardless of Ishbia supposedly chipping in or not, the Sox won’t be beating them in the free agency game if LA wants another Japanese player to take over 1B for them. We already saw his buddy Ohtani helping him with his swing during the WBC. Murakami would have to more than likely want to stay with the Sox and accept a hometown discount. Sure, the Sox will have money to spend but they have to be willing to spend it, while also facing competing [higher] offers. And I have only named one team in the Dodgers that could have interest.

Let’s be honest, anyone that has high hopes of Murakami staying is simply wishcasting.

I would be really disappointed if Murakami decided to ride Ohtani’s coattails. Too many other players have already done that. He can be the face of the team here. Hopefully that means something to him.