LUIS ROBERT TRADED

[Chicago White Sox]

13 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I’m not trying to be funny and I’m not disagreeing with you.  But he’s 26 years old and I have no doubt that he will get plenty of chances with a team that pretty much has an entire roster full of unproven outfielders if you consider Benintendi primarily a DH going forward.

FWIW, Kelenic somehow hit worse than Acuna did in AAA if that’s possible and doesn’t offer the defensive & base-running value that the latter does.  I still think he should have to prove that any swing changes him and Fuller make this offseason actually work in AAA before he gets a major league shot.

[Chicago White Sox]

8 minutes ago, 46DidIt said:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=pereir000eve

Prospect Rankings

 

Baseball America

Pre-2023	#78
Pre-2024	#67

Mid-season list he must have jumped to #69 in 2023.  Baseball America’s player page doesn’t list a 2024 ranking for him.

[46DidIt]

Acuña could very well be more productive than Robert next year on his own.

Then you have the fact just last year Pereira hit 21 dongs in 297 abs at AAA, the year following being ranked 67. Along with Murray for Steven Wilson and a mid-season dumpster dive. Not sure what kind of return you were expecting there.

Not sure how Mead for a mid-season dumpster dive signing is a bad move either. That is literally turning nothing into something.

[Chicago White Sox]

29 minutes ago, 46DidIt said:

Acuña could very well be more productive than Robert next year on his own.

Then you have the fact just last year Pereira hit 21 dongs in 297 abs at AAA, the year following being ranked 67. Along with Murray for Steven Wilson and a mid-season dumpster dive. Not sure what kind of return you were expecting there.

Not sure how Mead for a mid-season dumpster dive signing is a bad move either. That is literally turning nothing into something.

I like all these moves (outside of Acuna) in isolation.  But we now have a ton of guys with no options, so these type of moves create some challenges from a roster construction perspective.

[WhiteSox2023]

 

[greg775]

Acuna looked hitterish/homerish in that clip of the four home run game. He could look good in the lineup if he plays the outfield. If Getz acquires two good pitchers now with the savings maybe the Sox can go .500 or so. Use that Robert money to sign two veteran pitchers, no more prospects, have plenty of them.

 

[tray]

Gosh, he's really a little fuker.

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[PaleAleSox]

8 hours ago, Chick Mercedes said:

Lets just hope Getz told the truth about spending the money. Then with the prospects, and whatever else they buy, there’s a good chance they can come-out ahead once Robert grabs his hammy again. But that’s hard to earmark.

It would be a very weird thing he didn’t have to directly lie about. 

[Lukakke Appling]

12 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

It would be a very weird thing he didn’t have to directly lie about. 

Yeah, I don’t see why he would set himself up like that unless they were intent on following through. 

[Kyyle23]

52 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

It would be a very weird thing he didn’t have to directly lie about. 

The money has been allocated to Murakami.  Poof, money spent!

[poppysox]

I don't understand why Jerry wants to be the managing partner if he can't afford to play the game.  Estate taxes are not driven by the title you have.  Taxes are driven by the value of the holding at his time of death.  

[PaleAleSox]

1 minute ago, poppysox said:

I don't understand why Jerry wants to be the managing partner if he can't afford to play the game.  Estate taxes are not driven by the title you have.  Taxes are driven by the value of the holding at his time of death.  

It makes me so mad when I think about it. He talks about how much he enjoys it and stuff and the asshole doesn’t do s%*#. Spends less than he did 25 years ago.

[Chicago White Sox]

1 minute ago, PaleAleSox said:

It makes me so mad when I think about it. He talks about how much he enjoys it and stuff and the asshole doesn’t do s%*#. Spends less than he did 25 years ago.

It’s admittedly weird to hate someone you have never have met, but my distaste for him is truly immense.  Like I hate the dude with a passion for destroying two of my three favorite sports teams.  He pretty much lacks any of the qualities I look for in an owner and we have been stuck with himself forever.  And he’s so fucking stubborn and refuses to relinquish control because it’s somehow fun overseeing hilariously bad organizations.  The only saving grace is that Ishbia is going be very different with a modern perspective on things and that sweet, sweet private equity money.

[kitekrazy]

11 hours ago, WestEddy said:

I'd like somebody to tell us if, when and how bad Colson Montgomery will be injured in the future so Getz could be sure to trade him when he's at his peak value. 

 

 It is sad that White Sox fans have too much in common with Marlin, A's, Pirate fans.   

[kitekrazy]

9 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I don’t know, it’s tough to take anything a GM says at face value.  It’s very possible the Sox really like Acuna, but at the same time only made this trade because Jerry made them dump salary.  Lying to the media is a key part of a GM’s job.

I don’t agree that Getz trading for 40 man roster depth is a bad thing when the cost is practically nothing.  Tristin Peters may end being useless, but he cost us nothing and probably gives us a replacement level floor if needed.  We saw under Hahn the dangers of having zero depth at the AAA level.  As long as the costs are reasonable and they aren’t blocking someone, these are smart moves to make.

Let's always forget Getz was a failed farm director unless you are into always blaming the guy above

[Snopek]

1 hour ago, PaleAleSox said:

It makes me so mad when I think about it. He talks about how much he enjoys it and stuff and the asshole doesn’t do s%*#. Spends less than he did 25 years ago.

Come on, we all have that one hobby we love that we completely suck at, don’t try to get better at, and don’t actively participate in.

[Chicago White Sox]

44 minutes ago, kitekrazy said:

Let's always forget Getz was a failed farm director unless you are into always blaming the guy above

Not sure why that gives Hahn a free pass for never having replacement level talent in AAA.  He could have gone out and traded for a Tristan Peters or simply signed better AAAA types to minor league deals.

[WestEddy]

11 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Agreed on Bader.  Not exactly the model of consistency and you would be signing him after a big year.  Also on the wrong side of 30.  He’s turning 32 in June.

MLB.com keeps updating this article of free agent transactions:

https://www.mlb.com/amp/news/mlb-free-agents-2025-2026.html

The FanGraphs list still shows who's available. 

2026 Free Agent Tracker | RosterResource | FanGraphs Baseball

 

[WhiteSox2023]

12 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

The FanGraphs list still shows who's available. 

2026 Free Agent Tracker | RosterResource | FanGraphs Baseball

 

Still some good starters available but the outfielders are less than thrilling.  Do Bader and Hays do anything for you, or any other OF?  Bader is a bit older and it feels like he will be overpaid due to last season.  Hays seems to get injured a lot.

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[Baron]

Didn't Bader turn down a $10 million QO? He may regret that. 

[JUSTgottaBELIEVE]

4 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Still some good starters available but the outfielders are less than thrilling.  Do Bader and Hays do anything for you, or any other OF?  Bader is a bit older and it feels like he will be overpaid due to last season.  Hays seems to get injured a lot.

I’d be happy with Bader 2/$20M and Giolito 2/$30M to round out the offseason. Addresses two big holes and doesn’t block anyone in the near term. Both could also be future trade pieces if they perform well.

[JUSTgottaBELIEVE]

3 minutes ago, Baron said:

Didn't Bader turn down a $10 million QO? He may regret that. 

Option, not QO. Big difference as signing him wouldn’t cost the Sox a draft pick.

[Bob Sacamano]

4 minutes ago, Baron said:

Didn't Bader turn down a $10 million QO? He may regret that. 

QO was for $22M and he wasn’t eligible to receive one since he was traded

[Baron]

1 minute ago, Bob Sacamano said:

QO was for $22M and he wasn’t eligible to receive one since he was traded

Ah there you go. Must have been seeing the wrong thing last night. 

[WestEddy]

3 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Still some good starters available but the outfielders are less than thrilling.  Do Bader and Hays do anything for you, or any other OF?  Bader is a bit older and it feels like he will be overpaid due to last season.  Hays seems to get injured a lot.

Yeah, Bader's '25 could certainly be his dead cat bounce. The guy sure went through the wilderness in the '20s with OPS+ numbers that are lower than my age. Hays isn't a bad place holder and can replace Robert's offensive production just like that. Neither would make me angry on a one year deal. Either would be gone on August 1. 

They're still rebuilding. They were never going to sign Tucker or Bellinger. Now it's just wait for Braden Montgomery - McLain and Saucke were supposed to be quick movers.