Rumor: White Sox in potential discussion(s) with Red Sox....

[SoxBlanco]

20 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

They aren't trading one of their core young guys to my knowledge. I also have no idea if a deal is actually close. I just know that they've talked to Boston. I wouldn't really consider it to be major though. The poster earlier could be referencing something else. 

Hypothetically, if the White Sox acquire Jordan Hicks, would they be acquiring him to be a starter or reliever?

[Chicago White Sox]

8 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Hicks + Campbell though? If you ate all money and cost was low?

Hick + Campbell for Meidroth?  Who says no other than me?

[tray]

9 hours ago, ChiSoxFanMike said:

I still feel like if there’s any guy from the Red Sox worth paying up for, it’s Wilyer Abreu.

Agree on Abreu. Might cost Acuna who I think the Red Sox would covet as a potential answer to their search for a second basemen with good defensive skills.  I think trading Acuna for a great outfielder makes sense for those who do not see Acuna as the White Sox starting center fielder or see his lack of power as a real drag.   My guess is that Getz might be over-valuing Acuna.  Lots of known unknowns to juggle.

[oldsox]

I think a lot of you guys overrate Meidroth. His trading value might never be as high as right now. Especially with Antonucci being just a year away.

[Jake]

I have a hard time believing Boston is going to salary dump a guy who was regarded as a top 10 prospect in MLB just a year ago

[Lukakke Appling]

2 minutes ago, Jake said:

I have a hard time believing Boston is going to salary dump a guy who was regarded as a top 10 prospect in MLB just a year ago

Yeah I think that’s wishful thinking. I think Wilyer Abreu is more realistic and a better fit anyways. 

[Chicago White Sox]

6 minutes ago, Jake said:

I have a hard time believing Boston is going to salary dump a guy who was regarded as a top 10 prospect in MLB just a year ago

I don’t think they will salary dump Campbell, but what if they can a young player in return with similar team control but fits the major league roster better?  If the Red Sox want a RH hitter who can provide plus defense at 2B then Meidroth could make a ton of sense for them.  Absorbing Hicks’ contract and assuming the risk of Campbell’s would solve some difference in value of the two young players.

[Lukakke Appling]

50 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I don’t think they will salary dump Campbell, but what if they can a young player in return with similar team control but fits the major league roster better?  If the Red Sox want a RH hitter who can provide plus defense at 2B then Meidroth could make a ton of sense for them.  Absorbing Hicks’ contract and assuming the risk of Campbell’s would solve some difference in value of the two young players.

It evens it out, sure. I just don’t think the Red Sox are so hard up for cash they need to give up that kind of upside. They still have all that Bregman money laying around unspent. 

[T R U]

1 hour ago, oldsox said:

I think a lot of you guys overrate Meidroth. His trading value might never be as high as right now. Especially with Antonucci being just a year away.

So you want to trade a 24 year old MLB player who showed potential in his rookie year because of a 23 year old who has 49 games in double a? What is this. 

[Jake]

10 minutes ago, T R U said:

So you want to trade a 24 year old MLB player who showed potential in his rookie year because of a 23 year old who has 49 games in double a? What is this. 

Yeah I think it's easy to overrate just about any player if you're making confident claims that somebody is going to be good. But certainly I think if someone wants to move a controllable player to make space for Sam Antonacci, they are almost certainly overrating Sam Antonacci (who obviously has a chance to be a MLB contributor).

[Y2Jimmy0]

2 hours ago, SoxBlanco said:

Hypothetically, if the White Sox acquire Jordan Hicks, would they be acquiring him to be a starter or reliever?

I would hope as a reliever but not sure 

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I don’t think they will salary dump Campbell, but what if they can a young player in return with similar team control but fits the major league roster better?  If the Red Sox want a RH hitter who can provide plus defense at 2B then Meidroth could make a ton of sense for them.  Absorbing Hicks’ contract and assuming the risk of Campbell’s would solve some difference in value of the two young players.

Taking on 2 contracts that's funny when just one of them (Hicks) take Getz past spending only the $20M he saved on Robert. That seems  to be extent of the financial flexibility he's allowed.

[Chicago White Sox]

1 hour ago, oldsox said:

I think a lot of you guys overrate Meidroth. His trading value might never be as high as right now. Especially with Antonucci being just a year away.

Maybe…but he has the 53rd highest Steamer 600 projection for fWAR amongst positional players.  And if you look at the list, every other player above or around him is a legit awesome baseball player.  I think a lot of people actually underrate Chase and don’t see the unicorn that he is.

[Eminor3rd]

I’m guessing Bryan Ramos DFA trade

[Squirmin' for Yermin]

 

2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Hick + Campbell for Meidroth?  Who says no other than me?

You couldn't get Campbell for anyone on our roster

[Eminor3rd]

I feel like I’ve seen a couple writers recently say that Campbell looks really out of sorts and bad at the plate, to the extent that they are worried about his actual future now. Logenhagen said something similarly alarming in a chat the other day too. So, idk, if that’s the case and the Red Sox agree, it’s not insane that they’d be trying to dump the extension, especially since they don’t have a place to play him this year. Now, that doesn’t mean they want to move him for Meidroth lol, but just that he may actually be a nearly underwater or at least substantially diminished asset with the contract attached.  

I also remember one Red Sox writer saying that they’d teams absolutely loved Abreu and sees him as a cornerstone piece, which is why they’ve been trying to move Duran instead. Based on that, I don’t think Abreu is on the table at all. 

Edited 11 hours ago by Eminor3rd

[Squirmin' for Yermin]

20 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

I would hope as a reliever but not sure 

I'd hope reliever and if he is good again in that roll I think you could find a suitor for his 2/20 that is left on his deal.

[Chicago White Sox]

11 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

 

You couldn't get Campbell for anyone on our roster

Red Sox fans would happily trade Campbell for Teel right now.  There is literally nowhere for Campbell to play right now if they don’t trust his 2B defense.

[Squirmin' for Yermin]

2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Red Sox fans would happily trade Campbell for Teel right now.  There is literally nowhere for Campbell to play right now if they don’t trust his 2B defense.

fans are dumb and shortsighted

Edited 11 hours ago by Squirmin' for Yermin

[Chicago White Sox]

10 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said:

I feel like I’ve seen a couple writers recently say that Campbell looks really out of sorts and bad at the plate, to the extent that they are worried about his actual future now. Logenhagen said something similarly alarming in a chat the other day too. So, idk, if that’s the case and the Red Sox agree, it’s not insane that they’d be trying to dump the extension, especially since they don’t have a place to play him this year. Now, that doesn’t mean they want to move him for Meidroth lol, but just that he may actually be a nearly underwater or at least substantially diminished asset with the contract attached.  

I also remember one Red Sox writer saying that they’d teams absolutely loved Abreu and sees him as a cornerstone piece, which is why they’ve been trying to move Duran instead. Based on that, I don’t think Abreu is on the table at all. 

I was really digging this post until that Meidroth jab!  But your view on Campbell is spot on.  His stock is legitimately down some and his long-term fit with the Red Sox is in question.  Whether they’d trade him for a unicorn, analytics darling prospect that was previously in their system is a different question, but I wouldn’t be shocked at all if they are very open to moving him.

[GreenSox]

2 hours ago, oldsox said:

I think a lot of you guys overrate Meidroth. His trading value might never be as high as right now. Especially with Antonucci being just a year away.

Meidroth could just as easily be underrated.  He did nothing wrong his rookie year and he showed he can play SS well – that’s quite a floor.   If they want to swap him for Kristian Campbell and dump Hicks, I don’t really see the point (Campbell was bad his first season), but okay.  Sox being a salary dumpee and getting value (instead of being the village idiots like Shields and Edwin Jackson) would be surprising.  

We just signed Austin Hays.  That’s the way to get an Abreu level player.  I’ve seen Bello mentioned:  he’s a mid/mid-back of rotation guy.  That’s what Martin and Burke are supposed to be.  It may not happen, but we’ll find out soon. Now Bello could develop into something more…only if they believe in something more, should that be considered.

Edited 10 hours ago by GreenSox

[Eminor3rd]

10 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I was really digging this post until that Meidroth jab!  But your view on Campbell is spot on.  His stock is legitimately down some and his long-term fit with the Red Sox is in question.  Whether they’d trade him for a unicorn, analytics darling prospect that was previously in their system is a different question, but I wouldn’t be shocked at all if they are very open to moving him.

Haha yeah, idk. I really haven’t seen much of Meidroth actually playing so I’m just reacting to the stat line and the physical projection/reputation. Probably not totally fair. 

But, how much better is Meidroth than Romy Gonzalez, really? Very different players for sure, but if you are the Red Sox and trying to find a significant net gain out of that slot, I’m just not sure Meidroth is the target. 

[GreenSox]

39 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

 

You couldn't get Campbell for anyone on our roster

They’ve already decided to move Campbell off of the infield, even though they need infielders.  Wasn’t super in AAA and he wasn’t good at all in his brief major league stint. 

[Reyno45]

If they’re trading for Jordan Hicks as a reliever then doesn’t that defeat the point of trading for him? 
 

[CWSpalehoseCWS]

I’d think Hicks would be more of a swingman than have a defined role. They seem to be headed in that direction already with Newcomb, and Taylor has even been described as being in a multi-inning role this season.

Edited 10 hours ago by CWSpalehoseCWS