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At what point do we start to believe?

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I started to believe in the second half last year and thought they had a nucleus of good young players who were gamers. When this season started off so bad I thought how could I have been so wrong but it looks after all that maybe I was right, there is still a long way to go and there are going to be some bumps, a true test will be on how well they handle the bumps. With Teel and Hays coming back soon, things can really get interesting.

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I think its about time I give CHSN my moneys. I've followed the box scores daily and as a driver im constantly tuned into 670/1000 so I'm still "Up to date," but I haven't physically watched a game since going to a July game last year.

Between the sox being so bad, and me becoming a borderline degenerate gambler who hasn't yet jumped into gambling on baseball, the Sox have become a visual afterthought.

I wonder at what point does the organization start to believe?! If this team keeps playing like this do they look to BUY at the deadline????? Or are Teel and Montgomery their additions to this team? Would you trade Antanocci to a team looking for infield help for a more proven outfielder?? Do guys like Gonzalez(I think thats the AAA infielder doing well) or Billy Carlson have enough value to other teams to bring in a legit OF/DH?

4 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Hopefully not with the Pistons…

😂. Worse. Celtics.

43 minutes ago, JTB said:

😂. Worse. Celtics.

Send my regards to Mike McNeive with the Hawks...we went to grad school together.

Cubs' jokes work well with him. Or anything about Notre Dame.

Sox are in a 3 way tie for 10th with 5.3 position player fWAR. 11th in wrC+ at 102. Defense continues to play well, now -6 RAA as a team good enough for 15th. Pitching fWAR is 17th at 3.4.

7 hours ago, The_scs787 said:

I think its about time I give CHSN my moneys. I've followed the box scores daily and as a driver im constantly tuned into 670/1000 so I'm still "Up to date," but I haven't physically watched a game since going to a July game last year.

Between the sox being so bad, and me becoming a borderline degenerate gambler who hasn't yet jumped into gambling on baseball, the Sox have become a visual afterthought.

I wonder at what point does the organization start to believe?! If this team keeps playing like this do they look to BUY at the deadline????? Or are Teel and Montgomery their additions to this team? Would you trade Antanocci to a team looking for infield help for a more proven outfielder?? Do guys like Gonzalez(I think thats the AAA infielder doing well) or Billy Carlson have enough value to other teams to bring in a legit OF/DH?

No on dealing Antonacci.

Scouts are higher on him than Meidroth at second base for future Sox teams.

Billy Carlson with a 600ish ops is a currently depressed asset. Have to wait and see on him.

Jacob Gonzalez numbers are meaningless unless repeated at the mlb level for over 100 at bats to start out with.

Someone'sc willing to give you a veteran experienced 4/5 starter to last the remainder of the season, go for it...needs to be a something above Fedde and Kay level though. No easy task. Might require a package of 2-3 "suspects" bundled together.

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7 hours ago, The_scs787 said:

I think its about time I give CHSN my moneys. I've followed the box scores daily and as a driver im constantly tuned into 670/1000 so I'm still "Up to date," but I haven't physically watched a game since going to a July game last year.

Between the sox being so bad, and me becoming a borderline degenerate gambler who hasn't yet jumped into gambling on baseball, the Sox have become a visual afterthought.

I wonder at what point does the organization start to believe?! If this team keeps playing like this do they look to BUY at the deadline????? Or are Teel and Montgomery their additions to this team? Would you trade Antanocci to a team looking for infield help for a more proven outfielder?? Do guys like Gonzalez(I think thats the AAA infielder doing well) or Billy Carlson have enough value to other teams to bring in a legit OF/DH?

I'd rather deal Meidroth and have Antonacci at 2B. But I don't want to do that either and just keep both.

5 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

I'd rather deal Meidroth and have Antonacci at 2B. But I don't want to do that either and just keep both.

At this point Chase has earned the starting job at 2B. His defense plays much better there than SS and he does enough with the bat to be a starter.

3 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

At this point Chase has earned the starting job at 2B. His defense plays much better there than SS and he does enough with the bat to be a starter.

Like I said, I'd rather keep both

I'm as excited as anyone that we're playing better than expected in mid-May...but we're playing better than expected in mid-May. There's a long way to go. It's certainly not time to be trading away prospects. Let's just keep hoping our major league club remains watchable and that our prospects continue to develop. That's exactly what I hoped for out of this season.

Chicago White Sox: The White Sox? You mean the team that’s lost 100-plus games three years in a row? That’s exactly right. The South Siders are on the rise, and even if they’re unable to continue hovering around .500 all summer long, they’re immensely more watchable than the dysfunctional teams of the past few years. A young hitting core headlined by Munetaka Murakami, Miguel Vargas, Colson Montgomery and Chase Meidroth looks to be the foundation of the next White Sox playoff team.

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After losing a combined 326 games over the past three seasons, there is life on Chicago's South Side.

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1 hour ago, 35thstreetswarm said:

I'm as excited as anyone that we're playing better than expected in mid-May...but we're playing better than expected in mid-May. There's a long way to go. It's certainly not time to be trading away prospects. Let's just keep hoping our major league club remains watchable and that our prospects continue to develop. That's exactly what I hoped for out of this season.

Exactly. They are exceeding expectations right now which is great, but there's a whole lot of baseball left. Even if they are still hovering around a WC spot in July I don't want them to be buyers because that means you're taking assets away from what you've been trying to build the last 3 years. Let these guys play and continue to keep progressing forward but stay the course. We want this team to be competitive for years, not just this year.

I think I’ve officially joined the believer crowd as I looked up game tines this week so I could watch the games.

On 5/11/2026 at 2:28 PM, southsider2k5 said:

Look, I have no idea what is so wrong in your own life, that you have turned Soxtalk into some kind of medieval crusade, but this facade you put up is complete bullshit. You do nothing but b**** about anything and everything, dragging your hurt feeling into every thread like some badge of honor, when you should be embarrassed for acting like a toddler perpetually. Even after years of being ignored, you still are so fragile, that you need to go after anyone and everyone who disagrees with you, AFTER YEARS. Project your insecurities onto someone else.

Lol youre a riot. Enjoy your time as Soxtalk Eunuch or gelding.

11 hours ago, JTB said:

I think I’ve officially joined the believer crowd as I looked up game tines this week so I could watch the games.

Some absolute bullshit that we are going right back to west coast game times lol

On 5/14/2026 at 2:49 PM, Bonerko4Konerko said:

Exactly. They are exceeding expectations right now which is great, but there's a whole lot of baseball left. Even if they are still hovering around a WC spot in July I don't want them to be buyers because that means you're taking assets away from what you've been trying to build the last 3 years. Let these guys play and continue to keep progressing forward but stay the course. We want this team to be competitive for years, not just this year.

They should be buying arms that are controllable i think. The pitching is just not there to keep up with the offense. They need to help this group out.

5 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Lol youre a riot. Enjoy your time as Soxtalk Eunuch or gelding.

Your insecure ass is digging this up now? Go back for another tapioca pudding and catch a nap.

On 5/14/2026 at 2:35 PM, 35thstreetswarm said:

I'm as excited as anyone that we're playing better than expected in mid-May...but we're playing better than expected in mid-May. There's a long way to go. It's certainly not time to be trading away prospects. Let's just keep hoping our major league club remains watchable and that our prospects continue to develop. That's exactly what I hoped for out of this season.

I agree. Also, if you look at the standings for the leagues of our minor league teams, most of our teams are not doing that well. The minor league affiliates of the other MLB teams are doing better. I'd really like to see the Sox improve the system, as we'll need it in future years.

36 minutes ago, soxtalker999 said:

I agree. Also, if you look at the standings for the leagues of our minor league teams, most of our teams are not doing that well. The minor league affiliates of the other MLB teams are doing better. I'd really like to see the Sox improve the system, as we'll need it in future years.

I ask this sincerely. Is there a correlation between minor league team records and major league team record? It would make sense if there was but I don’t that would be an absolute. I’ve never really thought about it too deeply.

36 minutes ago, soxtalker999 said:

I agree. Also, if you look at the standings for the leagues of our minor league teams, most of our teams are not doing that well. The minor league affiliates of the other MLB teams are doing better. I'd really like to see the Sox improve the system, as we'll need it in future years.

Winning percentage is not the major focus, 80-85% of those guys will never make it for a single big league at bat or pitch, it’s developing the best and most major league prospects possible.

Winning together as a unit and advancing together each stage of the minors is great, especially for struggling major league franchises, but it’s unrealistic for the majority of teams because every player is on a different pace and advancing from two hundred different starting points each season.

Edited by caulfield12

The White Sox went 4-2 against the Padres and the Cubs. Two teams who are suppose to be two of the better teams in the NL. In a few weeks the White Sox play 9 games in a row against the Braves, Dodgers and Yankees. It should be a interesting 9 games.

1 hour ago, JTB said:

I ask this sincerely. Is there a correlation between minor league team records and major league team record? It would make sense if there was but I don’t that would be an absolute. I’ve never really thought about it too deeply.

2 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

Winning percentage is not the major focus, 80-85% of those guys will never make it for a single big league at bat or pitch, it’s developing the best and most major league prospects possible.

Winning together as a unit and advancing together each stage of the minors is great, especially for struggling major league franchises, but it’s unrealistic for the majority of teams because every player is on a different pace and advancing from two hundred different starting points each season.

JTB - you ask a good question, and I don't know the answer. And caulfield, you also raise a good point. I don't mean to overstate my comment about placement in minor league races. However, I do like to follow the players in the minor leagues, and I'm excited by the ones that are improving and doing well. (The minors offered some hope and progress during the past 3 years.) The various minor league player rankings are probably better for evaluating our players vs those of other teams, but I am envious of teams like the Rays who seem to have minor league teams that do well.

Seems like we should be able to hover around .500, which should be enough to keep things interesting.

Sox are now 7th in wRC+ at 107 and 6th in position player war at 7. 17th in pitching fWAR at 3.8. As I posted in the post gamer if you look at just May the Sox are easily the best offense in MLB. We have an xwOBA in May of .371! Next closest is the Cubs at .342. The delta between the Sox and Cubs at 2nd is equal to the delta between the Cubs and 16th place Arizona at .313.

Incredible.

Also, for anybody worried about Colson's back he looked pretty good picking up and throwing the gatorade cooler post game...

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