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5/20 Sox @ Mariners - 3:10PM

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4 minutes ago, JoshPR said:

Don't know where in the hell he saw blocking the base. Ump should get a call from MLB, like dude tha f*** ya doing. It wasn't even close

TBH, I don't know if that really was the call. I only got that from Gordon who has been less than reliable on matters like that. For all I know, Will got bad advice from whatever staff member looks at the replays.

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2 minutes ago, Autumn Dreamin said:

And you can guarantee the Sox would have never gotten that call on the exact same play.

The one Monday was atrocious. I mean what the hell

Just now, Jake said:

TBH, I don't know if that really was the call. I only got that from Gordon who has been less than reliable on matters like that. For all I know, Will got bad advice from whatever staff member looks at the replays.

It was. There was a moment that you hear it. You can hear he blocked the base. Plus the signal with the call. That's why will could not challenge. Arozarena was out

2 minutes ago, JoshPR said:

It was. There was a moment that you hear it. You can hear he blocked the base. Plus the signal with the call. That's why will could not challenge. Arozarena was out

Yikes, that's terrible then. You really can't be wrong in favor of the runner on a play like that.

26 minutes ago, Lukakke Appling said:

If it helps, Sandlin is looking good so far today.

That would help a lot. Sox could use him.

44 minutes ago, Jake said:

Now we're back to the umps gifting them the game with the bullshit on the SB

Plenty of blame to go around. Peter's K with bases loaded ,no outs followed by Romo GIDP.

Then Romo up again with saftey squeeze on and Meidroth gets picked off 3rd because Romo takes a high and away pitch . Meidroth supposed to wait for contact.

Sox defense had 0 errors and was that play at 2nd ever given an explanation ? Because obstruction was not at all obvious when a runner is always going to slide on the outside of 2nd there.He had plenty of room

2 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Hill would obviously be in over Acuna

Oh obviously 🤣 Have you seen how bad Hill is against RHP ? Check his splits. It's not a lineup upgrade.

Plus it's not as easy as just saying obviously ! A manager needs to know what Seattle bullpen arms are likely to get into this game based on usage the prior games . Maybe Venable figured there was a chance to get Hill a pinch hit against a LHP late in the game where his splits are WAY better and he's been one of our better Pinch Hitters. I doubt you checked Seattles BP or his splits before you casually said "Obviously."

This is why couch potatos aren't managers.

29 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Oh obviously 🤣 Have you seen how bad Hill is against RHP ? Check his splits. It's not a lineup upgrade.

Plus it's not as easy as just saying obviously ! A manager needs to know what Seattle bullpen arms are likely to get into this game based on usage the prior games . Maybe Venable figured there was a chance to get Hill a pinch hit against a LHP late in the game where his splits are WAY better and he's been one of our better Pinch Hitters. I doubt you checked Seattles BP or his splits before you casually said "Obviously."

This is why couch potatos aren't managers.

Eh not worth it

Edited by Bob Sacamano

2 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Your argument was weak if you just want to stick the argument that Colson shouldnt ever play third. Colson and Acuna arm , glove and range are all better than anyon else you put on the left side of the infield. And sure weaken all other defensive positions makes so much sense.

I suppose you know a lot more than Venable right ? 🤣Taking Acuna out of the lineup makes all the difference this game somehow even though he has done fine at SS and 1 for 3 at the plate and scored a run.

No, I’m not taking a guy who’s been great defensively at SS and sticking him at 3B. Seriously wtf. The fringe MLB player should learn 3B and and another trick to his bag. Maybe he can stick around another couple years.

Edited by Bob Sacamano

35 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Oh obviously 🤣 Have you seen how bad Hill is against RHP ? Check his splits. It's not a lineup upgrade.

Plus it's not as easy as just saying obviously ! A manager needs to know what Seattle bullpen arms are likely to get into this game based on usage the prior games . Maybe Venable figured there was a chance to get Hill a pinch hit against a LHP late in the game where his splits are WAY better and he's been one of our better Pinch Hitters. I doubt you checked Seattles BP or his splits before you casually said "Obviously."

This is why couch potatos aren't managers.

And as long as you also acknowledge that you as well are a “couch potato” since you are not an important baseball person holding no significant role

Edited by Bob Sacamano

People seem to get the math with batting order but not defensive value. It's odd.

If you have a elite leadoff hitter, but your utility guy has better numbers or is "better" leading off than he is elsewhere, you wouldnt argue to bat your typical leadoff hitter 9th or, more appropriate for 3rd vs SS, 6th because everyone gets that it equals fewer at bats for a great player so you wouldnt do that.

3rd and SS are the same thing. SS gets more chances and has many more chances to positivity impact the game defensively than 3rd base. By placing the superior defender at 3rd, you limit his chances so that you can get an inferior player more chances. It's complete nonsense. It's even dumber than the Grant Taylor opener thing, which thankfully they came to understand. Hopefully they figure this defensive one out. Radio made it sound like Acuna caused the stolen base which led to a run.

This doesn't even account for the fact that this is still a game played by people and players earn roles through play.

Edited by Look at Ray Ray Run

Also, not sure why I’m getting ragged on for my Acuna take when everyone and their mother wanted him DFA’d weeks ago. Yet one person is here arguing he should be playing 😂

Acuna sucks. He's a below average SS and CF. Just a complete scouting whiff. I had hopes he was a facsimile of a Leury type. He's not.

Easy fix tho: Gonzo and Montgomery up in two weeks and Acuna and Kelenic are gone. Maybe even next week. Schedule toughens up in June.

2 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Acuna sucks. He's a below average SS and CF. Just a complete scouting whiff. I had hopes he was a facsimile of a Leury type. He's not.

Easy fix tho: Gonzo and Montgomery up in two weeks and Acuna and Kelenic are gone. Maybe even next week. Schedule toughens up in June.

You’re a couch potato!

2 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Acuna sucks. He's a below average SS and CF. Just a complete scouting whiff. I had hopes he was a facsimile of a Leury type. He's not.

Easy fix tho: Gonzo and Montgomery up in two weeks and Acuna and Kelenic are gone. Maybe even next week. Schedule toughens up in June.

You're rushing Montgomery a bit.

How many combined AA and AAA at bats would he have at that point?

And who goes to the bench for Gonzalez?

He can only play second SS or DH.

Just now, Bob Sacamano said:

You’re a couch potato!

The fans are fat filthy slobs! Speaking of which, another LOL error moment for Piss Crack Asswipe.

Edited by chitownsportsfan

Just now, chitownsportsfan said:

The fans are fat filthy slobs! Speaking of which, another LOL error moment for Piss Crack Armstrong.

I’m thankful we don’t have that guy. Power the first half of last year was a fluke. Never hit like that anywhere in the minors.

Just now, Bob Sacamano said:

I’m thankful we don’t have that guy. Power the first half of last year was a fluke. Never hit like that anywhere in the minors.

Yes, and defense as we know now does slump and get hot and such. He's a 3 WAR player that for a hot moment played like a superstar. He'll never be able to replicate that first half of last year.

Edited by chitownsportsfan

3 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Acuna sucks. He's a below average SS and CF. Just a complete scouting whiff. I had hopes he was a facsimile of a Leury type. He's not.

Easy fix tho: Gonzo and Montgomery up in two weeks and Acuna and Kelenic are gone. Maybe even next week. Schedule toughens up in June.

Hays should be back soon. Probably for the next home series. My preference would be to swap out Benny and Acuna for Gonzalez and Hays, but I highly doubt it.

1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Yes, and defense as we know now does slump and get hot and such. He's a 3 WAR player that for a hot moment played like a superstar. He'll never be able to replicate that first half of last year.

I’m glad they opened the wallet for him

1 minute ago, Lukakke Appling said:

Hays should be back soon. Probably for the next home series. My preference would be to swap out Benny and Acuna for Gonzalez and Hays, but I highly doubt it.

That's just a pipe dream. Benny is what he is I guess, just never let him see the field and try and platoon him against LHP. He seems to have accepted his reduced role and we just have to accept they aren't going to DFA him.

9 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

The fans are fat filthy slobs! Speaking of which, another LOL error moment for Piss Crack Asswipe.

Oops. Sorry PCA, not sorry. That dude can stick it where the sun don’t shine.

6 hours ago, Bob Sacamano said:

While having the better lineup yeah. And Antonacci at 3B is only one spot by my count

Your original answer didnt include "3B is only one spot " since you said one of your possibilties was Meidroth at SS and Ant at 2nd. I never imagined you'd put in Hill in LF and actually call that a better lineup.When he's just as bad as Acuna vs RHP, maybe worse. That pretty much left Benintendi for LF if you wanted a better lineup and then you have to change DH. But sure put Antonacci at 3rd after you just saw him get an interference call at 2nd base which is his natural position.

Frankly the game results speak for themself .The Sox comitted no errors and Acuna didnt embarass himself offensively. And the world didnt end because Colson played 3rd in a pinch .

It's called defensive flexibility.Its not exactly unheard of in the modern game .He's not exactly a butcher there. The whole reason for drafting SS is because they are athletic enough to field other positions.

The coaching staff is awate of a lot more things than you are.

8 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said:

That's just a pipe dream. Benny is what he is I guess, just never let him see the field and try and platoon him against LHP. He seems to have accepted his reduced role and we just have to accept they aren't going to DFA him.

I’m fine with Beni in the role you described, he’s already helped and will help down the stretch. Is he over paid in that role, no doubt but nothing anyone can do about it, JR won’t DFA him, a trade would be the only possibility.

11 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Plenty of blame to go around. Peter's K with bases loaded ,no outs followed by Romo GIDP.

Then Romo up again with saftey squeeze on and Meidroth gets picked off 3rd because Romo takes a high and away pitch . Meidroth supposed to wait for contact.

Sox defense had 0 errors and was that play at 2nd ever given an explanation ? Because obstruction was not at all obvious when a runner is always going to slide on the outside of 2nd there.He had plenty of room

Exactly right on all observations.

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