36 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

I'd be very surprised. Asking price sounds astronomical.

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What would be astronomical for the Sox?

5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

What would be astronomical for the Sox?

I bet they are asking for Bonemer.

Detmers just turned 27, has two more years of cheap control, and looks like he has turned the corner. If the rumor that Getz doesn’t want to give up top prospects and would prefer to take on money, Detmers isn’t even a fit anyways.

23 minutes ago, bmags said:

I would bet money that package is better than what he goes for.

I think Carlson is about as good as a headliner that Detmers will command. After that it’s hard to say, but Quero is a post hype former top 100 guy and Adams is a major league ready SP who is 26 years old and lacks ceiling. To me it feels about right and the fact people here see at being too much & too little suggests it may not be too far off.

5 days to go and not only has nothing of substance really happened leaguewide, but there hasn't even been many legit rumors. I suppose this is a function of the new reality that there are less known sellers with the expanded playoffs.

6 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said:

I bet they are asking for Bonemer.

They won’t get a Bonemer level talent for Detmers. I’m sure they’re asking, but at some point they will concede to market value.

28 minutes ago, bmags said:

I would bet money that package is better than what he goes for.

I don't know. Angels never trade guys and dudes like this with 2.5 years of control don't often move due to asking price.

24 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Really? Wow. I already thought pitchers were going to be outrageously expensive but even I’m surprised by that.

I've heard they asked the Cubs for Hartshorn and Ben Brown.

9 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

What would be astronomical for the Sox?

Bonemer or Braden Montgomery plus

5 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Detmers just turned 27, has two more years of cheap control, and looks like he has turned the corner. If the rumor that Getz doesn’t want to give up top prospects and would prefer to take on money, Detmers isn’t even a fit anyways.

We should consider doing one of both…a controllable SP and a rental SP with a big contract whose salary will weigh down the prospect cost.

3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

We should consider doing one of both…a controllable SP and a rental SP with a big contract whose salary will weigh down the prospect cost.

If these are the rumored prices, I wouldn’t be shocked if Getz settles for an expiring contract starter and Urquidy, along with a decent catcher, and I can’t say he should be blamed if that is the end result of the deadline.

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7 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I think Carlson is about as good as a headliner that Detmers will command. After that it’s hard to say, but Quero is a post hype former top 100 guy and Adams is a major league ready SP who is 26 years old and lacks ceiling. To me it feels about right and the fact people here see at being too much & too little suggests it may not be too far off.

Pedro Ramirez or Matt Shaw beats Carlson as headliner

3 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

If these are the rumored prices, I wouldn’t be shocked if Getz settles for an expiring contract starter and Urquidy.

Yep, especially if next 5 games before deadline don’t go well

3 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

If these are the rumored prices, I wouldn’t be shocked if Getz settles for an expiring contract starter and Urquidy.

Urquidy is nothing but depth. He was DFAed and acquired for a DSL relief prospect…he is not part of the major league plan.

8 minutes ago, fathom said:

Pedro Ramirez or Matt Shaw beats Carlson as headliner

Disagree on this.

15 minutes ago, fathom said:

Pedro Ramirez or Matt Shaw beats Carlson as headliner

The Angels are so far away that they should focus on getting the most talent back regardless of where they are in the minors. Then again, it’s the Angels. Wouldn’t surprise me if they wanted guys to plug into their lineup right away.

Martin, Kay and Burke are locks for the rotation next year.

We have Shane Smith, Hagen Smith, Thorpe, Adams, Schultz, Sandlin, McDougal in the wings.

I have to imagine at least 3 of those guys are dealt. Eventually, won't you run into a 40 man crunch or have to keep them in AAA?

Go get Holmes & Ray. That won't cost you a Bonemer, Smith or Carlson.

Rotation: Burke/Martin/Ray/Holmes/Kay

Fedde to the bullpen

24 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said:

I don't know. Angels never trade guys and dudes like this with 2.5 years of control don't often move due to asking price.

I've heard they asked the Cubs for Hartshorn and Ben Brown.

Bonemer or Braden Montgomery plus

Montgomery has to be damn near untouchable. I don't even like the idea of trading Bonemer, but at least he plays a position where the Sox are heavy on prospects.

1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said:

It’s really hard for me to see Hagen succeed in the bullpen when his biggest problem is putting it over the plate.

I think the mechanic considerations they are working with when running him out there as a starter are different when he is not attempting to extend to a starters workload.

In his relief appearances he has looked like a completely different kid. Limited walks, higher strikeout rates, and I don’t think he’s even given up a run.

1 hour ago, DoUEvenShift said:

Good eye. It's a stock photo

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Operation douche bag, cooked.

1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said:

We have a new Foodies invasion. Instead of food it’s just stock photo normie guys

At least the foodie fuckers had imagination and creativity. 😆

44 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

but at some point they will concede to market value.

Or they’ll just hold onto him for the offseason, for next years deadline, or to evaluate again after the 27 season as a whole.

They have no motivation… zero… to “concede” anything.

44 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

If these are the rumored prices, I wouldn’t be shocked if Getz settles for an expiring contract starter and Urquidy, along with a decent catcher, and I can’t say he should be blamed if that is the end result of the deadline.

Bingo. Most likely outcome 100%.

29 minutes ago, KennyPowers said:

Go get Holmes & Ray. That won't cost you a Bonemer, Smith or Carlson.

Rotation: Burke/Martin/Ray/Holmes/Kay

Fedde to the bullpen

This would be the best outcome but given how much competition there is for starting pitchers, I’ll be shocked if we get both without a massive overpay.

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37 minutes ago, striker said:

Martin, Kay and Burke are locks for the rotation next year.

We have Shane Smith, Hagen Smith, Thorpe, Adams, Schultz, Sandlin, McDougal in the wings.

I have to imagine at least 3 of those guys are dealt. Eventually, won't you run into a 40 man crunch or have to keep them in AAA?

Hagen and McDougal are supposed to be in the bullpen later this year. Adams seems to be the best plug-n-play option for a team selling off for "near MLB ready" talent.

1 hour ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Detmers just turned 27, has two more years of cheap control, and looks like he has turned the corner. If the rumor that Getz doesn’t want to give up top prospects and would prefer to take on money, Detmers isn’t even a fit anyways.

As a Sox fan who has seen a lot of these "turned the corner" guys turn out to just be flukes in a career year, I am not ready to proclaim them fixed.

1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said:

It’s really hard for me to see Hagen succeed in the bullpen when his biggest problem is putting it over the plate.

Shades of when we drafted him…