22 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said:

It might be a hot take, but I’d trade any prospect in the system for Mason Miller. I know people will say giving up a massive haul for a reliever is a risk, but he’s automatic and has 3.5 years of control. He’s a massive difference maker.

Would never happen, but if they want a package with Hagen Smith and Meidroth and any minor leaguer not named Bonemer….go for it

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

Would never happen, but if they want a package with Hagen Smith and Meidroth and any minor leaguer not named Bonemer….go for it

Gross. Trading low is dumb on smith.

5 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Gross. Trading low is dumb on smith.

Devil's advocate: this could be the highest value Smith has if it's proven later this year he can't go deep in games and is a RP, and/or can't throw strikes at the MLB level. If the right deal is there for a cost-controlled MLB level pitcher, I would definitely consider moving Smith if the player coming back is good enough.

9 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Gross. Trading low is dumb on smith.

You have faith Smith will turn it around? I don’t even think he’s a top 100 prospect after next week’s draft.

With an upcoming 40 man roster crunch,

33 minutes ago, ChiSoxFanMike said:

It might be a hot take, but I’d trade any prospect in the system for Mason Miller. I know people will say giving up a massive haul for a reliever is a risk, but he’s automatic and has 3.5 years of control. He’s a massive difference maker.

You’d give up Bonemer for him?

6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

With an upcoming 40 man roster crunch,

You’d give up Bonemer for him?

Probably not. Padres sent Leo De Vries to get Mason Miller. If they were able to get back a top-20 prospect, that would be a huge win for them. I think Hagen Smith with another prospect would be interesting for us, though.

Edited July 6Jul 6 by kwill

I think there is a good chance the Padres are looking to trade Machado or Bogaerts with packaging Mason Miller with one of them to get them off their books. I don't think Boegarts that is really possible but maybe with Machado.

To be clear, they would need to eat a good portion of that contract still.

Edited July 6Jul 6 by kwill

14 minutes ago, fathom said:

You have faith Smith will turn it around? I don’t even think he’s a top 100 prospect after next week’s draft.

He's a not top 100 prospect already.

Edited July 6Jul 6 by DirtySox

14 minutes ago, fathom said:

You have faith Smith will turn it around? I don’t even think he’s a top 100 prospect after next week’s draft.

He's a pitcher. Look at _____ other the years. They are highly variable and often some mature later than others. He's an asset and one I'd hate to give up on with zero service time to get a guy that even in a good year, is pitching 80 innings.

26 minutes ago, fathom said:

Would never happen, but if they want a package with Hagen Smith and Meidroth and any minor leaguer not named Bonemer….go for it

Stop trying to trade Meidroth!

25 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said:

Gross. Trading low is dumb on smith.

I agree. I also think Hagen’s floor is an elite bullpen weapon, so don’t want to deal him and a bunch of other stuff for an already elite reliever.

4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Stop trying to trade Meidroth!

Easily the guy I’d trade most on main roster. Ant is gonna have to move off LF eventually. His defense is not good out there.

20 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

With an upcoming 40 man roster crunch,

You’d give up Bonemer for him?

Yes I would. I think there is a valid argument that they would be better off trading him for a SP, but Miller is just so good and would secure the closer spot for years to come.

I think Bonemer is a great talent but with Roch/Emerson coming, I don’t view him as untouchable.

5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I agree. I also think Hagen’s floor is an elite bullpen weapon, so don’t want to deal him and a bunch of other stuff for an already elite reliever.

I don't think your far off in your assessment. I am really interested to see how the White Sox deploy both Smith and McDougal. Both could really help our bullpen problem. I know people often hesitate to give up on them as starters, but if they made the transition in September, that would be the better option for us at this point. I would say its there is a good chance both are ultimately destined for the pen.

10 minutes ago, fathom said:

Easily the guy I’d trade most on main roster. Ant is gonna have to move off LF eventually. His defense is not good out there.

Maybe…I actually like what I have seen from Sam in LF for a guy that hasn’t played the position before. Regardless, even if he moves back to 2B, Chase can still be an incredibly valuable 10th man. He’s the exact type of role player who teams like the Dodgers keep around and play everyday in event of injury. And all of that is ignoring how important he is in the clubhouse.

11 minutes ago, kwill said:

I don't think you’re far off in your assessment. I am really interested to see how the White Sox deploy both Smith and McDougal. Both could really help our bullpen problem. I know people often hesitate to give up on them as starters, but if they made the transition in September, that would be the better option for us at this point. I would say its there is a good chance both are ultimately destined for the pen.

I have started coming to terms that Hagen might end up being a reliever. It sucks because of how many hitters available in that draft, but that’s in the past and now it’s all about maximizing how he can contribute. If his stuff is going to regress with a starter’s workload, there is still plenty of value to be had in the bullpen. The same applies for McDougal, but I’m more confident he can remain a SP. But perhaps for this season, you leverage him as a reliever and then work him back as a starter next season.

7 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Maybe…I actually like what I have seen from Sam in LF for a guy that hasn’t played the position before. Regardless, even if he moves back to 2B, Chase can still be an incredibly valuable 10th man. He’s the exact type of role player who teams like the Dodgers keep around and play everyday in event of injury. And all of that is ignoring how important he is in the clubhouse.

I don’t disagree, I just want to see the super team in a few years with Bonemer and BMont on the corners with a big FA signing in CF, Mune at DH and an infield of Vargas, Ant, Roch and Colson.

3 minutes ago, fathom said:

I don’t disagree, I just want to see the super team in a few years with Bonemer and BMont on the corners with a big FA signing in CF, Mune at DH and an infield of Vargas, Ant, Roch and Colson.

I fully expect Bonemer to be our LF within two years. And I don’t think Chase will hold onto to 2B long-term…just not sure yet who will displace him. And for now, I think Peters may hold onto CF. I think our money goes toward extending Mune and adding pitching. If Peters falls off a cliff, I think you end up trading for a CF down the road, but with his defense I think he’s going to get an extended run here.

1 hour ago, fathom said:

Would never happen, but if they want a package with Hagen Smith and Meidroth and any minor leaguer not named Bonemer….go for it

They don't need Meidroth...and have dumped numerous lefties with control issues like Gore Snelling and Weathers.

Adrian Morejon would be a lot more realistic.

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15 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I fully expect Bonemer to be our LF within two years. And I don’t think Chase will hold onto to 2B long-term…just not sure yet who will displace him. And for now, I think Peters may hold onto CF. I think our money goes toward extending Mune and adding pitching. If Peters falls off a cliff, I think you end up trading for a CF down the road, but with his defense I think he’s going to get an extended run here.

I'd just keep this group together position player wise for now. Who even better than what we have is available? For now Sam and Peters and Braden is a fine OF, flawed sure, but good enough and we need to get them all experience.

As you said, Bonemer is our LF, and he'll hit 40 HR hopefully. Let Chase filter himself in or out for this season and than see whatsup in the offseason. If you have "too many good players" than sure, consider trades.

Pitching wise yea, fucking add.

6 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

They don't need Meidroth...and have dumped numerous lefties with control issues like Gore Snelling and Weathers.

Adrian Morejon would be a lot more realistic.

They need everything. Cronenworth is one of the worst players in baseball now. The Padres window is closed IMO.

11 minutes ago, fathom said:

They need everything. Cronenworth is one of the worst players in baseball now. The Padres window is closed IMO.

Mr. Brooke Fletcher...luckily set for life.

Just think Preller will go for more younger/higher risk, high impact players.

Made the wrong bet on Arraez and letting him go as well.

30 minutes ago, fathom said:

They need everything. Cronenworth is one of the worst players in baseball now. The Padres window is closed IMO.

They really only had one chance a couple years ago and choked.

I wonder what Nick Lodolo and Tejay Antone would cost from Cincy?

9 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

They really only had one chance a couple years ago and choked.

But were also one of the few teams to take out the Dodgers in 2022.

Cease was one of the main culprits for the more recent blown 2-1 series lead.

Clevinger fell apart in a prior NLCS.