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While Sox / Mets had rumored Peralta framework

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11 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

Been on the IL twice this year and I think he just left another start early last week I want to say?

Pretty sure one of those injuries was due to a fluke comebacker which obviously means it wasn’t anything mechanical.

And I’m not aware of him leaving any starts. Last I heard he went 6 vs KC giving up only 1 ER.

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    If my scouts like Peralta, I’d do Wolkow+ but that second prospect would have to be less than Smith.

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    Chicago White Sox

    Fully disagree on Wolkow. Teams have shifted towards prioritizing youth and ceiling in these types of deals. You say he’s been spinning in circles for a long time, yet he is a 20 year old in High A

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2 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:

He gawn.

I'm not buying this rumor, at all. Unless our pitching coordinators, who already have a pretty mixed record of success, have identified an easy-to-fix flaw with Peralta and feel they can make him absolutely dominant and do so quickly, I don't think this is the kind of deal Getz is looking to make. The checkbook is open, why the hell would he choose to spend farm assets instead?

4 minutes ago, Bonemer, I Hardly Know Her said:

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Side note, looking at the Sox Top 30 to see who I'd think about trading instead of Smith, seeing Bergolla listed as playing in rookie ball with an estimated arrival of 2026 is funny.

1 hour ago, Bonemer, I Hardly Know Her said:

It's not a middle tier system. It's a top third system.

If you want to bicker over 8th, 10th, 12th feel free, but the point remains. It isn't a big return.

36 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

I like that his source is a tweet we all read.

I mean, if you're just going to cut, paste and retweet, be a little more accurate

If they trade any of the A+ ball guys, they can just cross the dugout this weekend

2 hours ago, fathom said:

Gross, as Peralta has been terrible this year. I do think Wolkow and Smith are two of the most likely trade chips they use.

I've always been a pretty big Peralta guy. I'd take him for sure. That Mets situation is pretty brutal, and he's certainly had some bad luck with both balls in play and sequencing. The stuff still seems to be there for the most part.

At the price above, I think I'd give it a whirl.

1 hour ago, Jake said:

Smith's production is incredible, but there's a lot of question marks under the hood. Serious swing and miss and he's getting by with a lot of passivity. He's not very big for a guy who is supposed to be a masher and he might be years away from having a defensive position (and the position might be LF). He's a fun prospect and you have to love this partial season of production but the same thing that is tantalizing (that he's done so much in so little time) is also part of the risk (there's no track record). In principle, I don't love risking much on a rental pitcher, of course.

Wolkow is going to have near-zero trade value. I like him and he's so young, but I think most front offices don't have much faith that a guy can spin his wheels for that long and become anything.

Fully disagree on Wolkow. Teams have shifted towards prioritizing youth and ceiling in these types of deals. You say he’s been spinning in circles for a long time, yet he is a 20 year old in High A who has made some strides this year in terms of the K rate. He’s certainly a high variance player who likely amounts to nothing, but the ceiling if it were to click is insane. To think he has zero trade value is just simply wrong IMO.

Get him today so he can start tomorrow instead of Noah.

37 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said:

Oh f*** yeah, just finished work for the day too!! Let’s get some early action going!!

6 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

I've always been a pretty big Peralta guy. I'd take him for sure. That Mets situation is pretty brutal, and he's certainly had some bad luck with both balls in play and sequencing. The stuff still seems to be there for the most part.

At the price above, I think I'd give it a whirl.

Not disagreeing with you, but why is his K rate down so much vs. recent years?

I just saw Peralta at the airport getting on a flight to Tampa!

Josh Gordon Spotted at Logan Airport! He's already here ...

There isn’t anyone that gloms onto news and breaking stories than heyman. He is so fucking worthless when he calls the score

Giving up Boston Smith and Walkow for a few months of Peralta who isn’t having a great season himself would be a tough pill to swallow….Boston has been raking down in Birmingham.

4 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said:

There isn’t anyone that gloms onto news and breaking stories than heyman. He is so fucking worthless when he calls the score

He’s nothing more than a bunch of blatant agent & front office plants and it’s embarrassingly obvious. Like he literally hypes up Boras’ clients in the offseason to the point it looks like Scott’s staff has access to Jon’s twitter account.

2 minutes ago, HeGetzUs said:

Giving up Boston Smith and Walkow for a few months of Peralta who isn’t having a great season himself would be a tough pill to swallow….Boston has been raking down in Birmingham.

I'd do it for Holmes.

15 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Not disagreeing with you, but why is his K rate down so much vs. recent years?

I'd just be speculating for the most part, but his arm angle dip probably hasn't helped much given that he's a very very generous 6'0 so it's likely flattened out a fastball that had incredible lift. He's also just struggled to command the slider this year which has killed his fastball as well because even though the slider still has been effective, he's thrown more in the no contest zone so it hasn't played as well off the fastball. His fastball has always outperformed it's grades and sometimes sequencing as a pitcher just works against you a little and you throw your best pitches on strike 0 or 1 instead of strike 2. I'd be willing to bet on a change of scenery though because the guy has been proving everyone wrong since he got into the league and was told he could only make it as a reliever.

8 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

I'd just be speculating for the most part, but his arm angle dip probably hasn't helped much given that he's a very very generous 6'0 so it's likely flattened out a fastball that had incredible lift. He's also just struggled to command the slider this year which has killed his fastball as well because even though the slider still has been effective, he's thrown more in the no contest zone so it hasn't played as well off the fastball. His fastball has always outperformed it's grades and sometimes sequencing as a pitcher just works against you a little and you throw your best pitches on strike 0 or 1 instead of strike 2. I'd be willing to bet on a change of scenery though because the guy has been proving everyone wrong since he got into the league and was told he could only make it as a reliever.

Maybe building on this, but if he came over and pitched like he has the past few years down the stretch for the Sox, you could go down the route of a qualifying offer to either retain him or get back a pick (so regain some of that capital). Obviously plenty of scenarios where he isn't worth that qualifying offer - but if was becoming a free agent a year ago, I think he would have gotten that offer.

1 hour ago, Sleepy Harold said:

Whoa Nelly.

My prediction is he’s going to the Diamondbacks.

Katie Perry's bootyhole says no on this deal. Unless torrens is included.

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