Sunday at 04:45 AM5 days Based on tonight’s appearance, Castillo is just about fixed as Getz indicated.
Sunday at 04:56 AM5 days 10 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:Based on tonight’s appearance, Castillo is just about fixed as Getz indicated.This might be one of the worst deals in a long time
Sunday at 05:00 AM5 days 2 minutes ago, BigHurt3515 said:This might be one of the worst deals in a long timeIt’s just wild that Getz went out at the deadline and acquired an expensive player who has made our team materially worse. That is legit hard to do.
Sunday at 05:12 AM5 days For what it’s worth, Boston Smith has fallen off a cliff in AA of late. It’s still impressive how they managed to take a bad signing in Dominguez and compound it into something way worse though.
Sunday at 05:21 AM5 days Looking at the statcast for his release point, he's been tinkering with it ever since his 2nd start here. This was where he was at with the Mariners:Since he's gotten to the Sox, he's now dropped his arm angle to 15 degrees and widened his release point (-2.53 feet). The vertical release point hasn't changed much. He's been tinkering with the arm angle from start to start, starting with his start against the Reds. In his start against the Cubs, it got all the way down to 13.5 degrees, but it's been more or less fluctuating around 15 otherwise. I have to think that they're trying to alter his arm angle and release point to get a better shape to his slider. But it's straight up not working. Way too many of the ones he throws are not competitive. A side effect of the lower arm angle is lower velocity and we've been seeing that pop up in the past 3 starts. He was throwing as low as 90 in today's start. Keep in mind his fastball was averaging 95.3 MPH with the Mariners and the velocity looked pretty good in his first start against Boston. Feels like they were trying to fix Castillo, but now it's basically made him unplayable. His once good velocity is gone and you're not getting anything more out of his breaking or off speed pitches. He could at least somewhat get by on his fastball before, but now that's not there either. I don't know what made the Sox think they can turn around a struggling pitcher better than the Mariners could. After all, our poor pitching development is why we had to trade for a starter in the first place.
Sunday at 09:21 AM5 days 3 hours ago, ChiSoxFanMike said:For what it’s worth, Boston Smith has fallen off a cliff in AA of late. It’s still impressive how they managed to take a bad signing in Dominguez and compound it into something way worse though.I’ll take a minor slump over overpaid Castillo and Doyle for the next season plus.
Sunday at 09:25 AM5 days 4 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:Based on tonight’s appearance, Castillo is just about fixed as Getz indicated.He’s still figuring things out. It was all part of Getz’s plan. He was an intended project plan at the deadline. You can’t review the trade as a failure until we see what he eventually becomes.
Sunday at 12:39 PM5 days 7 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:It’s just wild that Getz went out at the deadline and acquired an expensive player who has made our team materially worse. That is legit hard to do.And paid a decent price to do it.
21 hours ago21 hr You still can’t assess Getz’s trade deadline yet!!!Getz knew both Castillo and Doyle would be projects, but he acquired them anyways to potentially help in the playoff run and in the future due to their additional control… oh wait.The Sox winning percentage improved since the deadline… oh wait.The Sox are still in first place… oh wait.Just poking the western bear a bit… 😉It was an absolutely horrendous trade deadline and it’s definitely not too early to admit it. Edited 21 hours ago21 hr by WhiteSox2023
21 hours ago21 hr 1 hour ago, fathom said:Fire Getz Getz had so much foresight, he actually acquired Castillo knowing that he would fail in the rotation so he could convert him to the greatest closer of all time!
21 hours ago21 hr 14 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:You still can’t assess Getz’s trade deadline yet!!!Getz knew both Castillo and Doyle would be projects, but he acquired them anyways to potentially help in the playoff run and in the future due to their additional control… oh wait.The Sox winning percentage improved since the deadline… oh wait.The Sox are still in first place… oh wait.Just poking the western bear a bit… 😉It was an absolutely horrendous trade deadline and it’s definitely not too early to admit it.
20 hours ago20 hr 36 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:You still can’t assess Getz’s trade deadline yet!!!Getz knew both Castillo and Doyle would be projects, but he acquired them anyways to potentially help in the playoff run and in the future due to their additional control… oh wait.The Sox winning percentage improved since the deadline… oh wait.The Sox are still in first place… oh wait.Just poking the western bear a bit… 😉It was an absolutely horrendous trade deadline and it’s definitely not too early to admit it.5-13 run if L tonight45-117 season pace
20 hours ago20 hr 2 hours ago, DoUEvenShift said:I mean, this is super embarrassing but at least Getz isn’t being stubborn and letting s%*# linger any longer. But holy f*** what a disaster.
20 hours ago20 hr 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:I mean, this is super embarrassing but at least Getz isn’t being stubborn and letting s%*# linger any longer. But holy f*** what a disaster.We need the flush it graphic back
20 hours ago20 hr 5 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:We need the flush it graphic backYour wish is my command…
11 hours ago11 hr No way Castillo even makes the playoff roster. What a terrible addition this has turned into. I can't imagine him sticking around through next year in a bullpen role.
11 hours ago11 hr 2 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:No way Castillo even makes the playoff roster. What a terrible addition this has turned into. I can't imagine him sticking around through next year in a bullpen role.The only alternative is to eat that contract.We’re going into the final year of Benintendi’s deal for a reason…extracting whatever value JR can squeeze out of that deal.Castillo takes the Vasil/Jimmy Cordero role.
2 hours ago2 hr 9 hours ago, caulfield12 said:The only alternative is to eat that contract.We’re going into the final year of Benintendi’s deal for a reason…extracting whatever value JR can squeeze out of that deal.Castillo takes the Vasil/Jimmy Cordero role.I just don't see any value to keeping him around. I can't see the Sox eating both him and Benny's contract. How the Sox didn't see his clear cut warning signs he is cooked is beyond me. Talk about falling in love with the back of the baseball card when all the metrics out there state the obvious.
2 hours ago2 hr 6 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:I just don't see any value to keeping him around. I can't see the Sox eating both him and Benny's contract. How the Sox didn't see his clear cut warning signs he is cooked is beyond me. Talk about falling in love with the back of the baseball card when all the metrics out there state the obvious.The James Shields situation v 2.0
35 minutes ago35 min 1 hour ago, Lip Man 1 said:The James Shields situation v 2.0I'd argue it's worse. At least Shields could give you 5+
30 minutes ago30 min 4 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:I'd argue it's worse. At least Shields could give you 5+I’d argue that Boston Smith is no Tatis Jr.
26 minutes ago26 min 1 minute ago, Timmy U said:I’d argue that Boston Smith is no Tatis Jr.I honestly couldn't care less about Boston Smith. He's a nice story, but I don't envision him being anything more than a role player. He was no loss - your farm system should be developing these types of players (and trading them) all the time. I'm only looking at it from each of their level of production for the Sox.
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