19 hours ago19 hr 58 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:I honestly couldn't care less about Boston Smith. He's a nice story, but I don't envision him being anything more than a role player. He was no loss - your farm system should be developing these types of players (and trading them) all the time. I'm only looking at it from each of their level of production for the Sox.Sure, but Tatis Jr. turned out to be better than everyone Hahn acquired for stripping down the entire team. That turned out to be a Top Ten bad trade of all time.
19 hours ago19 hr 3 hours ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said:I just don't see any value to keeping him around. I can't see the Sox eating both him and Benny's contract. How the Sox didn't see his clear cut warning signs he is cooked is beyond me. Talk about falling in love with the back of the baseball card when all the metrics out there state the obvious.I mean, there is zero reason not to give him an offseason to work on changes and hope he can provide some value next year. While he has been god awful, his pure stuff is much better than what James Shields had when we acquired him. Not suggesting he isn’t cooked, but if you eat the contract you might as well do so next year.
5 hours ago5 hr 14 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:I mean, there is zero reason not to give him an offseason to work on changes and hope he can provide some value next year. While he has been god awful, his pure stuff is much better than what James Shields had when we acquired him. Not suggesting he isn’t cooked, but if you eat the contract you might as well do so next year.What stuff? He has nothing. Have you watched him pitch? Movement is down. Velocity is down. Control is bad. He just sucks and is likely cooked. He's going to be 34 next season. Believing you can "fix" a 34 year old pitcher who has been declining the last couple seasons is the ultimate in stupidity. He's old. How many pitchers improve in their mid 30's?
2 hours ago2 hr https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/leaders_40_pitch_career-after.shtmlJamie Moyer Tommy Johnknuckleballersthere was another lhp who made it to 42-43 recentlypitched for about half the teams in baseballMLB Players Who Defied Father Time into Their 40sIn baseball, age isn't just a number. It's the thing that catches up to every player, including the great ones. Sometimes, though, guys manage to defy Father Time longer than most... Edited 2 hours ago2 hr by caulfield12
2 hours ago2 hr 2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:https://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/leaders_40_pitch_career-after.shtmlJamie MoyerknuckleballersNow how many of those guys improved remarkably after age 34?
2 hours ago2 hr 2 minutes ago, JoeC said:Now how many of those guys improved remarkably after age 34?Blyleven? Wilhelm?maybe the majority were players who had major injuries and had to totally reinvent their approaches away from fb dominanceglavine smoltz maddux Chris Sale stands out here at present
2 hours ago2 hr 7 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:Jamie Moyerknuckleballersthere was another lhp who made it to 42-43 recentlypitched for about half the teams in baseballMLB Players Who Defied Father Time into Their 40sIn baseball, age isn't just a number. It's the thing that catches up to every player, including the great ones. Sometimes, though, guys manage to defy Father Time longer than most...This guy Edited 2 hours ago2 hr by ron883
2 hours ago2 hr 1 minute ago, ron883 said:Castillo is likely toast.Unless he blows out his elbow completely and comes back in 2028 throwing 97-99 at the age of 36
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