Just now, ron883 said:

By your logic we shouldn't attempt to value them because none of us have seen them play. Plenty of guys becomes studs after.coming from DSL. Vielma signed for a good chunk of change and was putting up great numbers for a 16 year old.

By my logic I'll trust the scouting department we have, which is not the same regime that got rid of Tatis. You can tell me I told you so in 8 years if you ever hear from this kid again.

Just now, PaleAleSox said:

They got a starter, a reliable bullpen arm, upgraded catching, and a gold glove caliber CFer they can platoon with Peters who has been struggling lately. I wish they'd have kept Everson, but Fuller hasn't steered me wrong yet.

The Castillo trade was mediocre and the Brazoban trade was really good.

But I was referring specifically to the Doyle trade and the Pereira DFA. Peters has proven he can play CF and even with his slump, he isn’t anywhere near as horrible with the bat as Doyle is. His career splits away from Coors are embarrassingly bad (.573 OPS). Also, Mason Adams could have helped the bullpen this season.

Edited 58 minutes ago58 min by WhiteSox2023

1 minute ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

The Castillo trade was mediocre and the Brazoban trade was really good.

But I was referring specifically to the Doyle trade and the Pereira DFA. Peters has proven he can play CF and even with his slump, he isn’t anywhere near as horrible with the bat as Doyle is. His career splits away from Coors are embarrassingly bad (.573 OPS). Mason Adams could have helped the bullpen this season.

Peters can't play against lefties. And the Sox are fine in the bullpen, especially with the Brazoban trade. They can bring up Macdougal if they want.

8 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

They got a starter, a reliable bullpen arm, upgraded catching, and a gold glove caliber CFer they can platoon with Peters who has been struggling lately. I wish they'd have kept Everson, but Fuller hasn't steered me wrong yet.

Edit - and also dumped their overpaid closer who was an unreliable gas can.

As a package, the Sox did what they had to do. They upgraded the 25, and didn't give up any of the vital pieces going forward. I will definitely quibble with the amount of returns, but they did improve for 26.

5 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

Peters can't play against lefties. And the Sox are fine in the bullpen, especially with the Brazoban trade. They can bring up Macdougal if they want.

Why not? Doyle can’t hit against a pitcher throwing with their left arm, right arm, left foot, right foot, etc.

43 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said:

DFA Romo, he probably clears and you stash him at AAA.

Already did that in the offseason. He could reject, and likely would.

Talk me through this. We aren’t seriously going to carry three catchers, are we?

1 minute ago, CityFan53 said:

Talk me through this. We aren’t seriously going to carry three catchers, are we?

Tea leaves read that Quero is getting optioned otherwise no reason not to DFA Romo here.

1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said:

Tea leaves read that Quero is getting optioned otherwise no reason not to DFA Romo here.

Good point.

1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said:

Tea leaves read that Quero is getting optioned otherwise no reason not to DFA Romo here.

We are just not serious about trying to win.

49 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said:

It is actually 5, not 3, I was wrong.

The Players proposed dropping it to 3 in one of their counter-offers.

yall thought Romo was going away

1 minute ago, Whisox05 said:

yall thought Romo was going away

Really don't get this one. Quero very clearly in the dog house.

Just now, ChiSox59 said:

Really don't get this one. Quero very clearly in the dog house.

It gives him a chance to work on his swing in a non pressurized situation.

Yeah what a crappy day

2 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Really don't get this one. Quero very clearly in the dog house.

Romero says it's because of the option situation, but Romo should still have options remaining I thought?

3 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Really don't get this one. Quero very clearly in the dog house.

Yeah when the team broadcaster is calling you fat, you’re in the dog house

4 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Really don't get this one. Quero very clearly in the dog house.

So is Lee.

3 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Really don't get this one. Quero very clearly in the dog house.

I think this is Getz showing they are still priortizing development and they view it as Quero still has more stuff to work on. When he got sent down a month ago (and even recently when he was called back up after Teel's injury), it seemed clear they had a laundry list of items they wanted him focused on and hopefully he understands that and continues to work at it. My guess is right now they want to have Bart get the bulk of the reps and they are fine with Romo in back-up setting with Quero continuing to do what he needs to do (and getting far more reps down at AAA).

1 minute ago, fathom said:

Yeah when the team broadcaster is calling you fat, you’re in the dog house

Wonder if his Driveline trip was not looked happily upon.

1 minute ago, Chisoxfn said:

I think this is Getz showing they are still priortizing development and they view it as Quero still has more stuff to work on. When he got sent down a month ago (and even recently when he was called back up after Teel's injury), it seemed clear they had a laundry list of items they wanted him focused on and hopefully he understands that and continues to work at it. My guess is right now they want to have Bart get the bulk of the reps and they are fine with Romo in back-up setting with Quero continuing to do what he needs to do (and getting far more reps down at AAA).

I think they don’t like him and would trade him if not for Teel injury

7 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said:

Really don't get this one. Quero very clearly in the dog house.

Why are we so obsessed with Romo, he doesnt nothing good.

5 minutes ago, fathom said:

Yeah what a crappy day

Awful, but I’m not surprised. I told @Chicago White Sox to temper his excitement. Didn’t get two starters which is what was needed, not a scrub CF. Cubs managed to do it.

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4 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Awful, but I’m not surprised. I told @Chicago White Sox to temper his excitement. Didn’t get two starters which is what was needed, not a scrub CF. Cubs managed to do it.

The Cubs and Sox are in very different places with who they are willing to give up, and rightfully so.

4 minutes ago, PaleAleSox said:

The Cubs and Sox are in very different places with who they are willing to give up, and rightfully so.

Agreed, but pass on Doyle then and use Mason Adams in a trade for a rental pitcher. Or a prospect like Wolkow. The obsession with only obtaining guys with control completely limited Getz in what he could do.

Edited 20 minutes ago20 min by WhiteSox2023